WOw,

Sounds great. $35 colo including remote reboot @ BW @ $1.50 a gig and $0 set up fees.

Anything I should know, like "this is really a great deal" or "the isn't really suk a great deal".

Comment appreciated. btw, I already searched the thread and didn't find a lot them: http://www.affordablecolo.com/:liplick:

Yes, there is something you should know and which you've already answered :D this really is a great deal :stickout

I have some rack space with them and I am very happy with the service.

The abse fee is sweet but $1.50 a gig for bandwidth on a co-lo ssems way high to me?

Originally posted by TedS
The abse fee is sweet but $1.50 a gig for bandwidth on a co-lo ssems way high to me?

are you kidding ? .. that's probably one if not the most cheap deal on bandwidth you can get, we talkign Tier 1 bandwidth here.

To co-lo at a company that is cheap yes definatly, it really doesnt get cheaper unless you own your own lines.

-Brendan

does affordablecolo use the 95 percentile on its bandwidth charges?


Jim

Since they're charging per gigabyte overage and not per kbit overage I'm gonna guess they're doing it like Rackshack and others and basing it simply on data transferred.

This price is amazing and I've not heard much bad from anyone talking (customers that is) hope they're in good financial shape they're looking mighty tempting.

Sorry but i really beg to differ... again i think the montyly fee is amazing and while $1.50 is a nice deal for bandwidth on a normal account, i would never pay that on a co-lo.

However, if its a good deal for you then congrats, the place looks real nice.

Originally posted by TedS
Sorry but i really beg to differ... again i think the montyly fee is amazing and while $1.50 is a nice deal for bandwidth on a normal account, i would never pay that on a co-lo.

However, if its a good deal for you then congrats, the place looks real nice.

So heck man, give me a url to YOUR colo provider giving you a cheaper price. I'm always up for a good deal :D

These prices look awesome to me, so if you can top it good lord man, make with the URL so's I can save my money too!

Thanks :)

Have you looked at VenturesOnline? Why not them over affordable colo? Their prices match I believe, although their web site says $50/U, I called and they quoted me $35/U. Therefore they are the same price, so who would you go with?

I don't think you will go wrong with either company!

Originally posted by TedS
Sorry but i really beg to differ... again i think the montyly fee is amazing and while $1.50 is a nice deal for bandwidth on a normal account, i would never pay that on a co-lo.

However, if its a good deal for you then congrats, the place looks real nice.

I would also like to see where you getting your pricing from ?

Ok, let me give you an example .. lets say you get a FULL DS3 from Spring, or ATT .. with LOOP .. you looking at about 15K

15000 / 45 = 333.00 Per Mbit

Ok, that's the equivalent of about 1.00 per Gb .. right ? ... WRONG ..

since by the time the line reaches 50% usage, you need to purchase a second one, that price is now NOT 1.00 but 2.00 per Gig .. of course we can use the line at 60-80% .. bringing the price to about 1.50 ...

that is not counting on routers, noc expensers, switches, personell, etc etc ..

We are talkign about Tier1 Bandwidth here, not COGENT

so tell me .. what part of 1.50 per Gb is too expensive for you ?

also, something to look at is that they provide a SLA which says they will refund you for any network downtime. How many Cogent Providers offer this?

I have to agree, 1.50/GIG is pretty good. Also, its 3.00/GIG if you go over your monthly allotment. So you better make sure you plan for any bandwidth jumps.


Jim

Originally posted by TedS
[B]Sorry but i really beg to differ... again i think the montyly fee is amazing and while $1.50 is a nice deal for bandwidth on a normal account, i would never pay that on a co-lo.[B]
I'd also like to hear the in-depth response to this. Links, etc. And before people start harping on how I'm defending so-and-so, I'm not. I just want to hear about colo that's far lower than $1.50/GB.

While it seems to have crept up in this thread, it might be better if this discussion was posted as a new thread (as it really doesn't have to do with the thread topic).

First off, let me start by apologizing, i clearly missed the part about cogent and non-cogent. The provider I am with right now is most likely cogent although they nave never stated it.

If your looking for a non-cogent solution I suppose 1.50 is a good deal.... Ill have to talk to my provider to be sure but again, my mistake.

With that said, I’m interested in knowing why all of you are so concerned about not using cogent bandwidth? I mean if its well peered, well connected whats the issue? Why would you want to spend a great deal fo extra money on making sure no one uses the other end of the pipe when you rarely use it either? It seems to me that the entire idea of using non-cogent bandwidth is a bit illogical... I mean you can buy porches for company cars because their fast but why would you need them? I get my bandwidth from the same major backbones (at&t, mci, level3, etc..) and the speed is blazing fast with great reliability... whats the problem with that?

And again, my appologies about the confusion

Hmm there seems to be some confusion we DONT use cogent at all for our transit service. In addition a post was left in regards to the stability of our company. Our company has been in business for 8 years, 4 of those years offering Internet Services. Were probably one of the oldest companys on these boards, we wont be going anywhere.

We charge on actual usage IE you only pay for what you use.

We guerentee 99.99% uptime if we dont meet it you get a credit. Were moving to 100% uptime here in a couple of months.

Neal: On a side note i fail to understand why you bring up venturesonline company, what do they have to do with this thread. (Ventures Online is a great comapny you cant go wrong there but it has no place in this thread).

The complaint on 1.50/gig?? Are you insane, if you want something that low go with cogent, whos burn rate is millions of millions of dollars a month and whos monthly reoccuring revenue is under 100k or around there, you do the math.

Per the individuals question on why not cogent see above paragraph.

I think that about says it, wasnt going to participate in this thread, but its obv. gone far off track and some things have been said which needed clarified. Im suprised Chicken hasnt kept it on track better.

Originally posted by TedS
First off, let me start by apologizing, i clearly missed the part about cogent and non-cogent. The provider I am with right now is most likely cogent although they nave never stated it.

If your looking for a non-cogent solution I suppose 1.50 is a good deal.... Ill have to talk to my provider to be sure but again, my mistake.

With that said, I’m interested in knowing why all of you are so concerned about not using cogent bandwidth? I mean if its well peered, well connected whats the issue? Why would you want to spend a great deal fo extra money on making sure no one uses the other end of the pipe when you rarely use it either? It seems to me that the entire idea of using non-cogent bandwidth is a bit illogical... I mean you can buy porches for company cars because their fast but why would you need them? I get my bandwidth from the same major backbones (at&t, mci, level3, etc..) and the speed is blazing fast with great reliability... whats the problem with that?

And again, my appologies about the confusion

I have nothing against it, two of my servers are on basically 100% cogent (cogent is first route used) and 2 of mine are at Rackshack. Got roughly 200 customers on each "side" of this argument and I don't see "more" complaints from one side or the other.

I'm paying $1 per G for the cogent stuff however I have to buy about 3X more gigs than I can use (200 and 300 gig minimums) so I guess in reality I'm paying $3 a gig for what I really use. Though it's nice knowing I could what nearly a 3rd of a TB of data on each server without incurring penalties.

But I will gladly pay more for multihomed best route-first (rather than cheapest route first) hosting.

Originally posted by cbaker17

Neal: On a side note i fail to understand why you bring up venturesonline company, what do they have to do with this thread. (Ventures Online is a great comapny you cant go wrong there but it has no place in this thread).

Charles,

The initial post on this thread was whether or not the deal was a good deal or not. With that, I am also shopping for colo and curious as to how this "deal" compares to VO. How do you choose between AffordableColo and VenturesOnline? That's the question, more related to the initial post than ANY of the following posts! I think your post has been exactly what I needed to hear, and it brought up some interesting issues I didn't realize either.

Venturesonline is 2.00 to 3 per gig for data transfer depending on how much you buy, while affordable colo is 1.50 per gig and has a lower rack fee. Affordablecolo is cheaper than venturesonline thats the main difference between the two firms.
Basically affordablecolo and weinbar.com and tera byte's 2.50 per gig plan are the cheapest for colo.
Now if affordablecolo could offer something like terabyte where you only pay higher per gig fees but no rack fee for low bandwidth customers then affordablecolo would be the cheapest in everyway that I can find.


How many servers does affordablecolo have colocated with them, and how many dedicated server customers does their parent company have. Thats something I am interested in knowing.

The Answer is:

:idea: THIS IS A GREAT DEAL :idea:

Thanks for a great thread.

ps. Now I finally know what Cognet is.

OK something kinda confused me though. I went to the site thinking "damn if the colo's this good a deal I bet they got some killer dedicated server deals too!". I was a bit surprised at the dedicated server prices.

AH well I need to quit using dedicated and go colo anyway.

Actually youll be hard pressed to find better prices then those, what your forgetting is plan 2 comes with 200 gigs of bandwidth and plan 3 comes with 300gigs of bandwidth... thats alot of bandwidth with a real expensive server, only way youd get a dedicated server cheaper with that much bandwidth is if you go cogent.

Guys,
I don't even know if I'm qualified a to comment on colo,
but it looks like it could really add up if they are charging you base $35 a month for space per u, then they charge you for power by the ampere hour in five hour incraments, then they charge you $1.50 per gig of bandwidth.

Now I'm used to paying for bandwidth and space, but I'm a little uncomfortable with being charged for power in 5 ampere incraments. Why not charge by actual power usage, or just include that in the standard fee? So instead of 35 a month, it goes to $55 base plus bandwidth. It just seems odd to do it the way they are.

Originally posted by sam.moses
they are charging you base $35 a month for space per u, then they charge you for power by the ampere hour in five hour incramentsNot correct. If you go with $35/U option, power usage is included. Please see http://www.affordablecolo.com/colocation.htm

I have 1/4 rack (8 servers, RPC and switch) with AffordableColo in Colo4Dallas facility and I have visited the place myself (they can colocate you in more than 1 facility I think). I kinda did not believe in what is stated at Afordable Colo's main page (http://www.affordablecolo.com/) regarding connectivity until I started to get very positive feedback from my customers.

I don't remember any single downtime since Nov'2001, when I signed the contract. The only thing to be aware of is that minimum contract term is 3 months. This is partially compensated by having no setup fees, as most places with no contract I know of have setup fees attached. And of course there are still places that require 6, 12 or even 24 months contract, but I don't believe they should be of any interest to you.

You are correct the 35.00 price includes everything IE remote reboots, power, etc

cbaker, if I am a foreigner and I want to buy servers online to colo with you, is there an online shop you recommend that sells complete/costumized servers?
something you know your other costumers used and enjoyed the service of?

just so i know, incase ill go colo with you some day :)

Lets see I like Dell, but penquin computing also makes good servers, as well as racksaver and i believe qsol. But my recom. would be dell