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x213Networks
01-19-2002, 02:13 PM
Ok.....I saw this on a few sites. On their terms of service.




"When you go over your allotted transfer limit each month you must purchase additional transfer from us in gigabytes. Even if you go over 1MB then that 1MB will be treated as 1GB, and you will need to buy more bandwidth."

Is this right?

I don't think that you should have to pay 1gb bandwidth when you only go over 1-2Mb?????? Shouldn't this be pointed out better and wouldn't this be really bad?

Thanks

SoftWareRevue
01-19-2002, 02:21 PM
I don't see anything wrong with hosts charging for overages in GB.
If they payed for bandwidth in MB; that would be different. But, I'm sure that no host buys bandwidth by the MB.
IMO it's fine for them to charge like this.

Of course, if this part of the TOS is obscured or deeply embedded with some rediculously high price attached, then it 'should' raise alarm.

x213Networks
01-19-2002, 02:30 PM
Let me explain better:


You buy package Unknown for 12 dollars a month it includes

10Megs Space
and 1GB Bandwitdh

that month u use 1001Megs of BandWitdh....And get charged for 2000Megs of bandwitdh that you didn't USE. This is really bad I think. The prices aren't REALLY high for another gig of bandwitdh, but still say they were. Would this be bad? Should hosts not put this there or should they like make it bold?

Thanks

SoftWareRevue
01-19-2002, 02:35 PM
In other words; you would like to see them implement a billing process where you could purchase bandwidth in 1MB increments.
I wouldn't be willing to do that. :rolleyes:

On the other hand; I've never heard of a host charge for a client being 1MB over. Most have terms in their TOS to protect themselves and so customers have no surprises. If I went over my alloted bandwidth by 1MB and my host charged me for just the 1MB, it may be enough for me to seek other hosting alternatives.

Rewdog
01-19-2002, 02:50 PM
I've seen hosts that charge you in 5 gb blocks if you go over a mb...

311
01-19-2002, 02:53 PM
well in that case :puke:

I think, that hosts should be flexible, so that even if you go lets say 20MB over your limit they should just let you go...

Gemini ISP
01-19-2002, 02:53 PM
i normally charge per gig also its easier and i get charge per 20 gigs from the data center

x213Networks
01-19-2002, 02:59 PM
Hosts can't advertise that though. You can't say you are allowed to go over 20 megs cuz then they will go over 20 megs. However your right that. Going over 1 meg shouldn't be charged for. Its not like that overload put major system down time on the network. LOL:D

Chicken
01-19-2002, 03:02 PM
I don't have a problem with it. If you are on a low plan and go over, you should either pay per/BG overage, or step up to a higher plan. While the host can decide whether 1MB is billable or if they want to let it slide, at what point do they *actually* cut it off then? You just have to come up with a set of rules and stick by them to be fair to yourself and your client.

vibehosts
01-19-2002, 03:25 PM
Chicken contact me lol!!!

<<Kyle, heh, I have to run out for a couple of hours but will get on that, sorry...>>

MarcD
01-19-2002, 03:30 PM
hostway bills in the 100mb's

$5.00 for 100 mb

Chicken
01-19-2002, 03:37 PM
While I really try not to judge other provider's prices (hey, if you can get it, get it!), that is on the high side, whooo. I suppose it is to encourage stepping up to the next plan if you are remotely close to hitting the limit of the current plan.

thesmallguyshost
01-19-2002, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by x213Networks

I don't think that you should have to pay 1gb bandwidth when you only go over 1-2Mb?????? Shouldn't this be pointed out better and wouldn't this be really bad?

Thanks

Well, an average change I would guess is $3-$4 per gig overage. It's not feasible to calculate our a few pennies per megabyte when a single gig overage is so low. Some hosts charge only $1 - $1.50 per gig..... so to bill a penny over because of 1 mb over is ridiculous. :)

x213Networks
01-19-2002, 11:04 PM
Why is so rediculus. First of all. KNOW ONE should charge for 1mb overage unless they are real dicks. And if they did charge.......Why can't it be a penny?

Chicken
01-19-2002, 11:17 PM
I can't remember the movie, but a guy goes into a diner and sees the chicken wings, seven for 99c. He asks, "How much for one?" It was funnier than I'm writing it, maybe a Wayan's brother...

HostNutt
01-19-2002, 11:29 PM
I personally would not charge for 1Mb, but if the customer is consistently going over, then they should be prepared to upgrade to the next plan or pay for the overusage. I know that some customers may use 600Mb a month and then all of a sudden have a busy month. At that point if it wasn't a large amount, I would let it go.

But if people get the idea that they can go over their account allotments at no expense then host's wouldn't sell anything besides the basic package and consequently make no money.

Just my opinion :)

EssEss
01-20-2002, 12:11 AM
You buy overage bandwidth in blocks (of 1gb or 100mb depending upon the TOS of the provider) similarly for the space too.

Very few will charge you extra if you go even upto 10-15MB beyond the bandwidth limit for once.

Bandwidth does not necessarily increase for lots of visitors. Most of your bandwidth depends upon the load (i.e., how many images and their byte sizes) of your index page and allowing download of files.

If you suddenly cross the bandwidth limit, the provider (atleast I do) normally checks the site and advises client for the reason of increasement of bandwidth and warns.

Dylan
01-20-2002, 12:44 AM
Charging in mb is madess. Let's say a client uses an extra 70mb, can you imagine charging their credit card for 21 cents? :eek: The transaction fee alone is like 30 cents for starters, which will leave you with a loss of about 9 cents.

thesmallguyshost
01-20-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by Chicken
I can't remember the movie, but a guy goes into a diner and sees the chicken wings, seven for 99c. He asks, "How much for one?" It was funnier than I'm writing it, maybe a Wayan's brother...

I can't remember the name of the movie either.... but wasn't it Chris Rock? And I think the special was for ribs.... "How much for just ONE rib?" :) But before then he asks how much for some coke if he just pours it in his hand I think :) LOL Then he asks for the rib... and when goes to buy the one rib, he says "got change for a hundred? " LOL

Chicken
01-20-2002, 01:45 AM
That sounds right (I was a bit off)... for some reason this thread reminded me of that. :D

Let's sum this up as this... if you choose a plan with a xGB limit, be prepared to pay the overage fee, by the terms you agreed to when you signed up. Easy for you, easy for the host. Or just sign up with one of those unlimted hosts so you never have to worry about it *winky winky*

Asher S
01-20-2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by x213Networks
Why is so rediculus. First of all. KNOW ONE should charge for 1mb overage unless they are real dicks. And if they did charge.......Why can't it be a penny?

You realize that its not possible to charge a penny. Also i know the host to which you're reffering :)

Asher S
01-20-2002, 01:56 AM
Also, what on earth will a host do with a penny ? :eek:

x213Networks
01-20-2002, 07:30 PM
your right! You shouldn't charge for 1 meg and I was stupid to think that however..........why make people pay for an entire GB can't it be like........50Meg Increcments? The point I am trying to make is that its not fair to have such a big gap. Its like.....Phone Companies and Cell Phones.......If you get a 300 minute plan and you go over...they don't charge you for 1000 extra minutes!!!!

Tetraboy
01-20-2002, 07:36 PM
They charge you 1 minute even if you only go over 1 second. Just like hosting companys charge 1 gb even if you only go over 1mb.

Dylan
01-20-2002, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by x213Networks
your right! You shouldn't charge for 1 meg and I was stupid to think that however..........why make people pay for an entire GB can't it be like........50Meg Increcments? The point I am trying to make is that its not fair to have such a big gap. Its like.....Phone Companies and Cell Phones.......If you get a 300 minute plan and you go over...they don't charge you for 1000 extra minutes!!!!

Read my first reply.

Tetraboy
01-20-2002, 08:11 PM
You need to have a hard set limit and stick to it.