I wonder how VIRTUALISP.CO.UK can do this...

They basically offer unlimited domains+unlimited space + unlimited bandwidth (5 gigs per site limit) for 39.99 pounds per month

yet a dedicated server is 79.99 per month with 250 setup and only 10gb of bandwidth,

I did notice on the home page there is a pic of a hand with a stopwatch, exactly the same one thats on donhosts website...

anyone know anything about virtualisp???

All i know is places like that over sell there bandwidth because no on can afford that.
They only offer that to get you to buy there packages but if you read there terms you will see they can stop any site and even kick you off there servise. These people make me sick.
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Donhost's web site gives you the impression the they have 2000Mbit connection yer right!!!
I think they have 10Mbit but with that thats only 3000gig/month.
They offer 50 gig per reseller. So they should have arround 60 resellers i bet you they have well over 300+
Thanks
jbuckle

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Maxhosting.co.uk - Flexible hosting you can depend on Coming Soon

They do not offer "unlimited" bandwidth

They offer 5gig per month per site you host.

There are only 4 servers resellers can use ( 2 unix , 2 windows )

They have 3 x 10Mbit Internet Connections.

VirtualISP is not Donhosts evil twin.

cdudeuk18, you seem to be recomending them everywhere, and you seem to know just about every little detail about them, HMMMMM???

Originally posted by 311
cdudeuk18, you seem to be recomending them everywhere, and you seem to know just about every little detail about them, HMMMMM???

No .... i have no recommened virtualisp everywhere.

And i do know abit about VirtualISP

Originally posted by cdudeuk18
They do not offer "unlimited" bandwidth

They offer 5gig per month per site you host.

[CUT]

Unlimited domains x 5Gb Transfer per resold domain = unlimited bandwidth :D

Originally posted by voxtreme - philip


Unlimited domains x 5Gb Transfer per resold domain = unlimited bandwidth :D

no it does not

Unlimited Bandwidth is impossible from a metered amount of data-transfer.

If there is no limit to the number of domains you can host, and with 5Gb for each domain, in theory it is unlimited datatransfer.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
If there is no limit to the number of domains you can host, and with 5Gb for each domain, in theory it is unlimited datatransfer.

going on that thiery ....

if someone offers me 20mb per account i add ... in theory thats unlimited webspace then .... i think not ... it is limited ... limited by the 20mb each time ..

think about it 5gb for each domain .. and only for a flat fee ...

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


No .... i have no recommened virtualisp everywhere.

And i do know abit about VirtualISP

Hi,

Do they offer unlimited bandwidth??

As you say you know alot about virtualisp, do you think they would accept 500 domains at 5gb each?

Thanks

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


going on that thiery ....

if someone offers me 20mb per account i add ... in theory thats unlimited webspace then .... i think not ... it is limited ... limited by the 20mb each time ..

think about it 5gb for each domain .. and only for a flat fee ...

Your post doesn't exactly make sense...

Originally posted by rmartin


Hi,

Do they offer unlimited bandwidth??

As you say you know alot about virtualisp, do you think they would accept 500 domains at 5gb each?

Thanks

Erm ... lets think about that .... no

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


Your post doesn't exactly make sense...

same as yours then.

how can a limited amount be unlimited

answer - it can't

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


Erm ... lets think about that .... no

So you agree that their website is misleading? as it states that it is a flat fee for unlimited domains that get 5GB each

Thanks

Originally posted by rmartin


So you agree that their website is misleading? as it states that it is a flat fee for unlimited domains that get 5GB each

Thanks

Well ... abit ... but normal resellers don't have to worry.

But what is "normal"

I am sure that a lot of resellers have at least 10+ sites and I would be surprised if they would allow 50GB+ for just 39.99+vat per month

Thanks

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


same as yours then.

how can a limited amount be unlimited

answer - it can't

If you can host unlimited domains which come with 5Gb of transfer each, you are in essence receiving unlimited transfer.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


If you can host unlimited domains which come with 5Gb of transfer each, you are in essence receiving unlimited transfer.

What's so hard to understand about that?

1. You do not get 5gb per site
2. You cannot host that many domains per a server .. recommened max around 500.

Virtual ISP have 3 x 10mbit internet connections ... not 3 x oc-192 .. they cannot provide 5gb per site ... for nothing ...

especially cos its in the uk ... and for only £39.95 + VAT ...

Its just bull crap ... but normal resellers should not worry ...

It quite clearly says here

http://www.virtualisp.co.uk/Resellers/resellers.html

5GB per site

what is a normal reseller??

It does say:

Unlimited Domains
Unlimited Webspace
Unlimited E-mail Addresses
Live Statistics
5Gb Transfer per site

If you can host (in theory) an 'unlimited numbers of domains' on the account, then yes, the offer is just complete bullfog and you should expect to be able to host what is reasonable, but nothing more. They don't have the magic server...

Originally posted by cdudeuk18
No .... i have no recommened virtualisp everywhere.

And i do know abit about VirtualISP


Call me stupid but isn't this a recommendation??

Originally posted by cdudeuk18
Hello,

VirtualISP offers :

Unlimited Web Space
5gb data-transfer per site
Unlimited POP3 Mailboxes
Both windows and unix servers access
MySQL databases
Frontpages extensions
Real Time Master and User CP.
Fast 10Mbit internet connectivity via 3 connections

They are pretty good.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=232727#post232727


hmmm......cdudeuk18...are you sure you are not working for virtualisp???

You seem to know a lot about them and post only about how good their service is..

I can speak from experience - as an ex customer.

I signed up for a windows account and was given a UNIX! They even asked their resellers to design control panel templates

cut from e-mail dated 9 Jul 01
There is at present only one style available (Classic Grey) so i'm going to open the floodgates and say, "Who wants to design one?", any design work will be done on a voluntary basis, there will be no payment for it whatsoever and it will be available for all the resellers to use, you will be giving up all artistic right and will not have the right to ask us to remove it later if you cease to take service from us.


Soooo glad I waived them bye bye...........

Eladesor
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Right grid reference - Wrong Planet ;)

OK

1. I do not work for Virtual ISP
2. You WILL not be able to use 5gb for every account.


They have 3 x 10Mbit internet connections ...

BUT currently they are only getting around 2mbit from each ... for some reason .. maybe the connections are only 2mbit each ...

anyways .. if you believe they will give you 5gb for every account ... your gullable ...

OK .. the reason they say 5gb per account ... is to give you a sence of security .... they cannot stick to this promise ... if everyone used 5gb per account.

Originally posted by cdudeuk18
OK

1. I do not work for Virtual ISP
2. You WILL not be able to use 5gb for every account.


They have 3 x 10Mbit internet connections ...

BUT currently they are only getting around 2mbit from each ... for some reason .. maybe the connections are only 2mbit each ...

anyways .. if you believe they will give you 5gb for every account ... your gullable ...

OK .. the reason they say 5gb per account ... is to give you a sence of security .... they cannot stick to this promise ... if everyone used 5gb per account.

Fraudulent advertising.

This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my
freinds. Some people started replying to it, not knowing what it
was and they will continue replying forever just because... :stickout

...this is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my freinds. Some people started replying to it, not knowing what it was and they will continue replying forever just because...er sorry :P

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


Fraudulent advertising.

not really .....

Originally posted by Elliot
This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my
freinds. Some people started replying to it, not knowing what it
was and they will continue replying forever just because... :stickout

As far as I can see, this thread is still completely on topic

If you would like to explain why not, then please do

Thanks

Originally posted by rmartin


As far as I can see, this thread is still completely on topic

If you would like to explain why not, then please do

Thanks

Sorry, but back and forth conversations on a message board just
isn't my 'thing' maybe you can finish the chat you are having with
cdudeuk18 on AIM, ICQ, E-mail, ect. :o

Move along, nothing to see here but people argue over
unlimited features which has been talked about thousands of
times through the life of this board. :D

Originally posted by Elliot


Sorry, but back and forth conversations on a message board just
isn't my 'thing' maybe you can finish the chat you are having with
cdudeuk18 on AIM, ICQ, E-mail, ect. :o

Move along, nothing to see here but people argue over
unlimited features which has been talked about thousands of
times through the life of this board. :D

thanks for reminding me to update profile with that info :stickout

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


Well ... abit ... but normal resellers don't have to worry.


Uh...... so the normal ones don't have to worry ....
What about the abnormal ones?

Misleading is misleading. No "bit" about it. It's like being pregnant. You either are, or you aren't. Nobody is "a bit" pregnant, or "a little" pregnant.

Advertising "Unlimited" anything means that you either have to keep your word, or risk litigation for deceptive business practices, or even fraud.

Originally posted by ArchAngel-MM



Uh...... so the normal ones don't have to worry ....
What about the abnormal ones?

Misleading is misleading. No "bit" about it. It's like being pregnant. You either are, or you aren't. Nobody is "a bit" pregnant, or "a little" pregnant.

Advertising "Unlimited" anything means that you either have to keep your word, or risk litigation for deceptive business practices, or even fraud.

And no it doesn't .... by offer unlimited to give unlimited of x , however should x violate ANY terms and conditions they have the right to delete or suspend x .

Get my point .. they will not delete your account cos you use unlimited x .. but cos of some other reason .. should u violate it ..

IE : more than xx amout of server resources ..


EDIT i was talking about donhost in the above quote

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


And no it doesn't .... by offer unlimited to give unlimited of x , however should x violate ANY terms and conditions they have the right to delete or suspend x .

Get my point .. they will not delete your account cos you use unlimited x .. but cos of some other reason .. should u violate it ..

IE : more than xx amout of server resources ..


That has to be THE WORST logic I have ever seen. Using your logic, let us assume that the system can carry around 7,000 accounts comfortably. Now, if I were to resell something in the neighborhood of about 1,500 accounts (and it could be done easily), each using only 4 of the 5 GB of bandwidth allowed, that's 6000 GB, or 6TB. That in itself while falling LEGALLY within your OWN DEFINED PARAMETERS, would still violate your usage policy. Requiring the termination of the accounts.

Moreover, let us assume that each server houses, on average, 250 accounts (that's average for lots of hosts). Those 1,500 accounts would use up a total of 6 complete servers, using 100% of their resources. By your own definition, that's abusing the system, and would require termination of the accounts. AND, while those accounts and their usage fall into the LEGAL parameters of your own definition, they violate your policy at the same time.

So basically, there just isn't any pleasing you, one way or the other. I had a girlfriend like that once. But I dropped her and have since avoided that type.

If your pet host WAS an honest and forthright venture, I seriously doubt that you would be so anxious to argue that the boldly emblazoned "Unlimited" banner on the site doesn't actually mean "unlimited."

You sound like Bill Clinton in front of a Grand Jury ---- "No, I didn't actually say unlimited," "Define what you mean by unlimited." "I did NOT put unlimited on that website!":D :D :D

Originally posted by ArchAngel-MM



That has to be THE WORST logic I have ever seen. Using your logic, let us assume that the system can carry around 7,000 accounts comfortably. Now, if I were to resell something in the neighborhood of about 1,500 accounts (and it could be done easily), each using only 4 of the 5 GB of bandwidth allowed, that's 6000 GB, or 6TB. That in itself while falling LEGALLY within your OWN DEFINED PARAMETERS, would still violate your usage policy. Requiring the termination of the accounts.

Moreover, let us assume that each server houses, on average, 250 accounts (that's average for lots of hosts). Those 1,500 accounts would use up a total of 6 complete servers, using 100% of their resources. By your own definition, that's abusing the system, and would require termination of the accounts. AND, while those accounts and their usage fall into the LEGAL parameters of your own definition, they violate your policy at the same time.

So basically, there just isn't any pleasing you, one way or the other. I had a girlfriend like that once. But I dropped her and have since avoided that type.

If your pet host WAS an honest and forthright venture, I seriously doubt that you would be so anxious to argue that the boldly emblazoned "Unlimited" banner on the site doesn't actually mean "unlimited."

You sound like Bill Clinton in front of a Grand Jury ---- "No, I didn't actually say unlimited," "Define what you mean by unlimited." "I did NOT put unlimited on that website!":D :D :D

I don't think you under Virtual ISP do u ... they have very few servers available to resellers ... you would NOT be able to use more than 100 - 150 pop3 mailboxes .. at the most ...

We do not offer unlimited anything .. except on the reseller account only available to WHT users.

And i'd also like to point out that should a user use ALOT of data-transfer we'd simply move the client to a brand new server with less clients on it .. or upgrade the CAP on the server.


ALSO ... you wouldn't be able to create 1500 accounts and use 4 - 5gb per month .. there connections are already being used alot .. using that amount is impossible.

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


I don't think you under Virtual ISP do u ... they have very few servers available to resellers ... you would NOT be able to use more than 100 - 150 pop3 mailboxes .. at the most ...

We do not offer unlimited anything .. except on the reseller account only available to WHT users.

And i'd also like to point out that should a user use ALOT of data-transfer we'd simply move the client to a brand new server with less clients on it .. or upgrade the CAP on the server.


ALSO ... you wouldn't be able to create 1500 accounts and use 4 - 5gb per month .. there connections are already being used alot .. using that amount is impossible.

cdudeuk18, do you work for virtualisp?

Aha, here we have the truth at last. You do work for VirtualISP and you have just admitted it:

We do not offer unlimited anything ... should a user use ALOT of data-transfer we'd simply move the client

Notice the crucial words "We" and "we'd".

So, either come clean about your affiliations (in which case you should be posting in the offers section with your sales pitch and lame excuses) or else get off this forum completely

(Was that Chicken's boot I heard impacting your anatomy?)

Originally posted by wallaby
Aha, here we have the truth at last. You do work for VirtualISP and you have just admitted it:



Notice the crucial words "We" and "we'd".

So, either come clean about your affiliations (in which case you should be posting in the offers section with your sales pitch and lame excuses) or else get off this forum completely

(Was that Chicken's boot I heard impacting your anatomy?)

Exactly, he's been posting annoying crap for a couple of days now, do us all a favour and either refrain from posting crap or go elsewhere.

And quite simply, you shouldn't offer unlimited, because it doesn't exist - as you proclaimed yourself "should a user use ALOT of data-transfer we'd simply move the client".
I therefore see that on your site, you advertise falsely, as you advertise:
"Unlimited Domains"
"5Gb Transfer per site"

Unlimited x 5 = Unlimited / Infinite as unlimited is not defined as a constant.

Now either I'm really confused, or someones not coming clean -

in thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32513&pagenumber=4 :: Cdudeuk18 :: wrote .............

quote:
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Originally posted by Eladesor
You started of this thread by:

Do you ‘own’ your NOC as the latter thread seems to imply? If so why haven’t you included yourself in your original post relating to other UK resellers?
Perhaps you don’t offer reseller options – so why the statement, it’s hardly informative.
Perhaps you’d like to post your NOC and URL details here that we may make a comparison of your services?

Afterall, it only seems fair.......... especially to those you have chose to comment about. If you are unable to post a URL or details about your NOC - then what are you talking about????

Eladesor
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Right grid reference - Wrong planet
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I do not own the noc .. however i work for the person who does.

We will be offering reseller options to clients ... but we currently do not and we are not located within the UK also its not fair to compair a host of our standard to such well standing hosts.

We are yet to be completely formed.

The hosted stated at first are .. and this is about UK resellers .. even though i am based in the UK .. my boss is not .. he is located in Florida .. where the NOC is.
__________________
:: Cdudeuk18 ::


Now in this thread, get a 'different' story as others have pointed out

:confused:

Eladesor
_____________________________
Right grid reference - Wrong Planet ;)

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


cdudeuk18, do you work for virtualisp?


NO I DO NOT

Originally posted by wallaby
Aha, here we have the truth at last. You do work for VirtualISP and you have just admitted it:



Notice the crucial words "We" and "we'd".

So, either come clean about your affiliations (in which case you should be posting in the offers section with your sales pitch and lame excuses) or else get off this forum completely

(Was that Chicken's boot I heard impacting your anatomy?)

I HAVE Nothing what so ever to do with virtual isp ... i was refering to "the company about to be setup" .... because the quote included "my personal views" as he put it ... which it didn't .. which i was trying to point out.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


Exactly, he's been posting annoying crap for a couple of days now, do us all a favour and either refrain from posting crap or go elsewhere.

And quite simply, you shouldn't offer unlimited, because it doesn't exist - as you proclaimed yourself "should a user use ALOT of data-transfer we'd simply move the client".
I therefore see that on your site, you advertise falsely, as you advertise:
"Unlimited Domains"
"5Gb Transfer per site"

Unlimited x 5 = Unlimited / Infinite as unlimited is not defined as a constant.

WE DO NOT ADVERTISE 5gb per site ... WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE OUR SITE UP YET

Originally posted by Eladesor
Now either I'm really confused, or someones not coming clean -

in thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32513&pagenumber=4 :: Cdudeuk18 :: wrote .............

quote:
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Originally posted by Eladesor
You started of this thread by:

Do you ‘own’ your NOC as the latter thread seems to imply? If so why haven’t you included yourself in your original post relating to other UK resellers?
Perhaps you don’t offer reseller options – so why the statement, it’s hardly informative.
Perhaps you’d like to post your NOC and URL details here that we may make a comparison of your services?

Afterall, it only seems fair.......... especially to those you have chose to comment about. If you are unable to post a URL or details about your NOC - then what are you talking about????

Eladesor
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Right grid reference - Wrong planet
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I do not own the noc .. however i work for the person who does.

We will be offering reseller options to clients ... but we currently do not and we are not located within the UK also its not fair to compair a host of our standard to such well standing hosts.

We are yet to be completely formed.

The hosted stated at first are .. and this is about UK resellers .. even though i am based in the UK .. my boss is not .. he is located in Florida .. where the NOC is.
__________________
:: Cdudeuk18 ::


Now in this thread, get a 'different' story as others have pointed out

:confused:

Eladesor
_____________________________
Right grid reference - Wrong Planet ;)


YES WE meaning us , the owners ( whom i work for ) ... do own our NOC.

look what i put

quote "they have very few servers available to resellers"

All other things included "We" .. i have explained i have nothing to do with Virtual ISP ... thats it ...

I find it offensive that you think i would work for such a company ...

Its insulting ... i'm sure someone from Virtual ISP will confirm if you ring them up .. that I alais "Cdudeuk18" do not work or have any affiliation with Virtual ISP.

cdude, a few posts earlier you said that 'Giving sense of security to clients' is not fraudlent advertising. fine.
I will rent a server with 50GB, sell 100 accounts, and post on my site that I can give 30GB bandwidth for each account just 'for sense of security of my clients' - that is false advertising!

i dont really care why they say unlimited - sense of security or sense of trying to get costumers - its still lying.
there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth.

Originally posted by IceBlaZe
cdude, a few posts earlier you said that 'Giving sense of security to clients' is not fraudlent advertising. fine.
I will rent a server with 50GB, sell 100 accounts, and post on my site that I can give 30GB bandwidth for each account just 'for sense of security of my clients' - that is false advertising!

i dont really care why they say unlimited - sense of security or sense of trying to get costumers - its still lying.
there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth.

neither virtualisp or donhost offer unlimited bandwidth or data-transfer.

if you offer 5GB for a domain, and you offer unlimited domain to hosts - not 'virtually unlimited' or 'noramlly unlimited' or all that crap - just unlimited domains.
you should learn basic maths - unlimited * 5 = unlimited - simple as that.

Originally posted by IceBlaZe
if you offer 5GB for a domain, and you offer unlimited domain to hosts - not 'virtually unlimited' or 'noramlly unlimited' or all that crap - just unlimited domains.
you should learn basic maths - unlimited * 5 = unlimited - simple as that.

do the basic maths

does 3 x 2mbps = unlimited data-transfer ??? i think not.

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


do the basic maths

does 3 x 2mbps = unlimited data-transfer ??? i think not.


cdudeuk18 - ever considered yourself to be wrong? Ever considered that your crappy posts are pissing a lot of people off? *sigh*, i thought not.

Where do you get 3 x 2Mbps from?

cdudeuk18

--

Why O Why are you still arguing.. You requested this post be closed twice already.

You credibility has already fallen through the floor and now you are going around in circles

Just accept defeat and leave this thread alone and then we will all leave it alone too or alternatively be honest and stop misleading us all.

We know you are affiliated with someone. so why not just come clean and tell us all who?

Thanks

The bottom line:

They mislead customers, AND getaway with it. That's the part that makes me sick, is that they can get away with LYING.

The sad part is somone will use them to build a solid customer base then be left out in the cold when they cancel your account for "too much cpu usage" or some crap like that.

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


do the basic maths

does 3 x 2mbps = unlimited data-transfer ??? i think not.

You've apparently got a towering intellect, rivaled only by garden tools. ( the dull, rusty ones.)

I'm willing to wager that 2mbps is your connectivity. (3) 2Mbps pipes. However the argument is NOT how much connectivity YOU HAVE, but rather what YOU ARE OFFREING TO PEOPLE on your website.

You OFFER AND ADVERTISE ***UNLIMITED*** domains, with an allowable transfer rate of 5GB/mo. If you CAN NOT deliver Unlimited bandwidth, then why do you advertise it?

You're not advertising YOUR connectivity, you're advertising what you offer your customers. And those are 2 separate and dstinct items.

You shouldn't be offerring Unlimited domains @ 5GB/mo., because you don't have anywhere near that sort of bandwidth to offer. you only have 3 2Mbps lines.

So there's no way out of it for you. You're simply advertising something that you DO NOT HAVE to offer.

If I had 3 tanker trucks full of milk, each holding 4,000 gallons of milk, and offered everybody who wanted it "Unlimited jugs of milk, @ 5 gallons per jug" I'd soon be out. Since I don't have unlimited milk, I shouldn't be offering unlimited milk.

Get the point? Probably not.

If ignorance is bliss, you have GOT to be the happiest fellow on earth.

Go back to 1st grade and learn simple multiplication. 2x2=4.
period. 4 is NOT equal to unlimited or infinte. period.

Don't offer what you can't possibly deliver. If you only have 3 T1's, you can't offer OC48 bandwidth. Get it? Probably not.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt



cdudeuk18 - ever considered yourself to be wrong? Ever considered that your crappy posts are pissing a lot of people off? *sigh*, i thought not.

Where do you get 3 x 2Mbps from?

VERY TRUE:mad: :mad:

Well if you guys would leave this thread alone ... and not make stupid commands at or about me .. i wouldn't have to reply ...

YOUR credability has gone right down the pan with me .. and other people will see that your not willing to have an adult conversation without arguing ..

i'm not defending virtual isp .. i personally think they are crap .. and i'm not saying they offer unlimited data-transfer ... i'm not saying that there offer is not misleading ...

BUT bottom line .. i don't work or use them .. so i have no right to judge .. and nor do you.

my $0.02 ...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ArchAngel-MM


You've apparently got a towering intellect, rivaled only by garden tools. ( the dull, rusty ones.)

Why thankyou

I'm willing to wager that 2mbps is your connectivity. (3) 2Mbps pipes. However the argument is NOT how much connectivity YOU HAVE, but rather what YOU ARE OFFREING TO PEOPLE on your website.

No .. my personally connections are 1mbps , 512kbit , and 56k .. and i don't have a web site yet

You OFFER AND ADVERTISE ***UNLIMITED*** domains, with an allowable transfer rate of 5GB/mo. If you CAN NOT deliver Unlimited bandwidth, then why do you advertise it?

i don't

You're not advertising YOUR connectivity, you're advertising what you offer your customers. And those are 2 separate and dstinct items.

am i .. i'm offering nothing here

You shouldn't be offerring Unlimited domains @ 5GB/mo., because you don't have anywhere near that sort of bandwidth to offer. you only have 3 2Mbps lines.

Well thats nice .. but i'm not offering anything here .. we're discussing virtual isp

So there's no way out of it for you. You're simply advertising something that you DO NOT HAVE to offer.

Well you gotta ask virtual isp about that .. as i cannot comment

If I had 3 tanker trucks full of milk, each holding 4,000 gallons of milk, and offered everybody who wanted it "Unlimited jugs of milk, @ 5 gallons per jug" I'd soon be out. Since I don't have unlimited milk, I shouldn't be offering unlimited milk.

Well , i suggest you offer amounts which you can actually provide

Get the point? Probably not.

I get the fact that you cannot read

If ignorance is bliss, you have GOT to be the happiest fellow on earth.

Yes , dumbness is bliss from what i see from your post

Go back to 1st grade and learn simple multiplication. 2x2=4.
period. 4 is NOT equal to unlimited or infinte. period.

Well thats where i've been going wrong , i thought you couldn't do anything to a fig. which has no action before or after it , ie : 5 ... so 4 would not equal unlimited because you are doing nothing to it ... and unlimited is not possible on numbers

Don't offer what you can't possibly deliver. If you only have 3 T1's, you can't offer OC48 bandwidth. Get it? Probably not.

I've stated my connections ... i do get what your trying to say .. but your saying it to the wrong person

QUOTE]

Originally posted by Pete
The bottom line:

They mislead customers, AND getaway with it. That's the part that makes me sick, is that they can get away with LYING.

The sad part is somone will use them to build a solid customer base then be left out in the cold when they cancel your account for "too much cpu usage" or some crap like that.


I agree ... but i cannot do anything about this ...

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt



cdudeuk18 - ever considered yourself to be wrong? Ever considered that your crappy posts are pissing a lot of people off? *sigh*, i thought not.

Where do you get 3 x 2Mbps from? #

Ever considered yourself to be wrong ??

And no , because the quality of my posts are only based upon the person reading them ... so i now know what you are like.

Originally posted by rmartin
cdudeuk18

--

Why O Why are you still arguing.. You requested this post be closed twice already.

Cos you guys wont let it die

You credibility has already fallen through the floor and now you are going around in circles

No its hasn't ..

Just accept defeat and leave this thread alone and then we will all leave it alone too or alternatively be honest and stop misleading us all.

When you guys drop it .. then i will leave this thread alone .. but not before .. and i'm not misleading you.

We know you are affiliated with someone. so why not just come clean and tell us all who?

I do not want to get this company involved , this is a personal id ... and i now know not to advise via it .. so i will drop the notices .. and you'll never know who i work for ... however you say a host .. i will never lie about it .. i will either answer yes i do work for them or no i do not work for them ... and the answer will be true.

Thanks

Originally posted by cdudeuk18
#

Ever considered yourself to be wrong ??

And no , because the quality of my posts are only based upon the person reading them ... so i now know what you are like.

The...quality... of... your... posts... is... pret..t...y damn ... poor because you... :

a) contradict yourself all the time
b) use a weird form of punctuation to try and put your views accross
c) change your opinion within the space of 30 seconds


Have a nice day,
Matt

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


The...quality... of... your... posts... is... pret..t...y damn ... poor because you... :

a) contradict yourself all the time
b) use a weird form of punctuation to try and put your views accross
c) change your opinion within the space of 30 seconds


Have a nice day,
Matt

a - i do not , you just think i do
b - its called english language .. maybe you'll learn it properly one day.
c - i'm not someone who is single minded .. maybe you are ... or maybe you just think i change my opionion ...

Poor cdudeuk18, he's obviously getting confused.

Firstly lets examine his contradiction of himself, and his rapidly changing opinions:


They do not offer "unlimited" bandwidth
They offer 5gig per month per site you host.
There are only 4 servers resellers can use ( 2 unix , 2 windows )
They have 3 x 10Mbit Internet Connections.
VirtualISP is not Donhosts evil twin.


So here, you state that they are not Donhost's evil twin, implying they are good.


i'm not defending virtual isp .. i personally think they are crap ..
BUT bottom line .. i don't work or use them .. so have no right to judge .. and nor do you.
my $0.02 ...


Yet here, you state they are 'crap'!

Next, regarding the website:

Richard originally posts:


So you agree that their website is misleading? as it states that it is a flat fee for unlimited domains that get 5GB each

Thanks



And you reply:


Well ... abit ... but normal resellers don't have to worry.



Then, I state that it's fradulent advertising:


Fraudulent advertising.


And you reply:

not really .....


Were you feeling a little indecisive? Or just contradicting yourself again? Or changed your opinion for the millionth time?


Now, cdudeuk18's English skills.

His English skills are severely lacking too - or perhaps the . key on his keyboard has a few problems?

But he also doesn't understand the differences in tenses, and how to differentiate between "I" and "We", as the following post shows:


I don't think you under Virtual ISP do u ... they have very few servers available to resellers ... you would NOT be able to use more than 100 - 150 pop3 mailboxes .. at the most ...

We do not offer unlimited anything .. except on the reseller account only available to WHT users.

And i'd also like to point out that should a user use ALOT of data-transfer we'd simply move the client to a brand new server with less clients on it .. or upgrade the CAP on the server.


ALSO ... you wouldn't be able to create 1500 accounts and use 4 -5gb per month .. there connections are already being used alot .. using that amount is impossible.


Yet he later states he doesn't work for Virtual ISP...

Anyway, I rest my case.

Matt: :beer:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Poor cdudeuk18, he's obviously getting confused.

nope .. sorry i am not

Firstly lets examine his contradiction of himself, and his rapidly changing opinions:



Yet he later states he doesn't work for Virtual ISP...

That is true , the we stands for "me and the company i work for" .. i said i was sorry i didn't explain that on the post

Anyway, I rest my case. /QUOTE]

Thankgod

However can we not talk about this .. i do not want to talk more about this ... i'm happy to confirm / deny who i work for ... i'm not going to give out names .. i'm not going to flame you no matter how much you do to me ... i'm not like that.

Just my $0.02

So here, you state that they are not Donhost's evil twin, implying they are good.


quote:
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i'm not defending virtual isp .. i personally think they are crap ..
BUT bottom line .. i don't work or use them .. so have no right to judge .. and nor do you.
my $0.02 ...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Yet here, you state they are 'crap'!



Sure here, they're the boyz! ?? WTF?


Virtual ISP : Unix / Windows 2000 : 7/10 : Fast , reliable


Make up your mind cdudeuk18!
Or are you just trolling for trolling's sake??

Originally posted by jonny b


Make up your mind cdudeuk18!
Or are you just trolling for trolling's sake??

would u just drop it

Final comment : They are crap.

Thats it. Final comment ...

Can we all just drop the subject of what i have done right / wrong ... ok i slightly f'cked up on my ratings ... by a mile .. but i was being generous .... ok .. i was wrong .. i admit it ..

Just my $0.3

.

Ok lets give this case a rest.
Virtual ISP use Fraudlent Advertising - Everyone Agrees
5 * unlimited = Unlimited - Everyone Agrees

cdudeuk admits he was wrong, admits he said misleading things (such as generous ratings) and admits he was wrong about unlimited bandwidth and about virtual ISP.

so now, after we all reached a consent, lets give it a rest :)

Originally posted by IceBlaZe
Ok lets give this case a rest.
Virtual ISP use Fraudlent Advertising - Everyone Agrees
5 * unlimited = Unlimited - Everyone Agrees

cdudeuk admits he was wrong, admits he said misleading things (such as generous ratings) and admits he was wrong about unlimited bandwidth and about virtual ISP.

so now, after we all reached a consent, lets give it a rest :)

Thankyou very much ,

My cool was about to get uncool :angry: ...

As i've said before ... i'm not what you call a patient person .. i was one post away from it :eek:

Anywayz ... lets get back to topic ...

Virtual isp .. is donhosts twin ... in the sence .. you get screwed either way.

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


Thankyou very much ,

My cool was about to get uncool :angry: ...

As i've said before ... i'm not what you call a patient person .. i was one post away from it :eek:

Anywayz ... lets get back to topic ...

Virtual isp .. is donhosts twin ... in the sence .. you get screwed either way.


Just leave it alone, lets not get back on topic or off topic.

You are just trying to provoke people into reacting yet again.

We have all learnt something here, so lets not push our luck.

The moderators have been very forgiving of this thread and i am surprised it has gone on so long.

I personally have learnt alot about virtualisp and have no need to find out anymore.

I have also learnt alot about cdudeuk18 and have no need to find out anymore

I would ask that those who know me would join in halting this thread and let the poor boy get some rest :)

Thanks

"Virtual isp .. is donhosts twin ... in the sence .. you get screwed either way."


and all it took was 5 pages of posts to get the truth out :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rmartin



Just leave it alone, lets not get back on topic or off topic.

ok fine

You are just trying to provoke people into reacting yet again.

Well i wasn't the first time ... and i'm not now

We have all learnt something here, so lets not push our luck.

Yes

The moderators have been very forgiving of this thread and i am surprised it has gone on so long.

I am .. because i asked them to close it

I personally have learnt alot about virtualisp and have no need to find out anymore.

Er .. this thread wasn't create the learn about them .. it was created to tell you to stay way from them ..

I have also learnt alot about cdudeuk18 and have no need to find out anymore

You have .. well pm me all you know about me

I would ask that those who know me would join in halting this thread and let the poor boy get some rest :)

I'm not a poor boy ( i'm a man ), and i will get some rest

Thanks/QUOTE]

I'm really sorry...but i just cant resist :D


I personally have learnt alot about virtualisp and have no need to find out anymore.

Er .. this thread wasn't create the learn about them .. it was created to tell you to stay way from them ..



They do not offer "unlimited" bandwidth

They offer 5gig per month per site you host.

There are only 4 servers resellers can use ( 2 unix , 2 windows )

They have 3 x 10Mbit Internet Connections.

VirtualISP is not Donhosts evil twin.



Thats my last post, honest :stickout

Originally posted by jonny b
I'm really sorry...but i just cant resist :D




Thats my last post, honest :stickout

Thanks :bawling:

Oh .. well .. i don't blame you .. i was trying to convince myself they weren't .. but oh well ..

:homer:

If I had 3 tanker trucks full of milk, each holding 4,000 gallons of milk, and offered everybody who wanted it "Unlimited jugs of milk, @ 5 gallons per jug" I'd soon be out. Since I don't have unlimited milk, I shouldn't be offering unlimited milk.

Well , i suggest you offer amounts which you can actually provide

And you still didn't get it? OMG!

Originally posted by lyndonw


And you still didn't get it? OMG!

just shuttup topic has ended which everyone agree to.

MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


just shuttup topic has ended which everyone agree to.

MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.


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Please don't be so rude

If you want to close the topic I was always told you should just report the first post in the list. and provide an explanation

Therefore cdudeuk18 you could try this.

Note. If you have, please don't come back here telling us else you will just start this thread off again

Thanks

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


just shuttup .... (snip)Perhaps you should take your own advice...