Hi All,

This is the first post on webhostingtalk that I have done in some months.

I see a *lot* of talk about RackShack and that most people are happy with them. I see a lot of people say that the servers are fast and that you really get 300GB of bandwidth.

My question is, how fast is fast. If I get 20,000-30,000 unique hits on my server every day and I have a lot of pictures (of the genealogy nature) that people view I use up a fair amount of bandwidth. But is the bandwidth good. Do the lines ever get saturated? What kind of speeds are people getting off the servers. Is anyone willing to post a 50-100MB file so that i can download a couple of times to test the bandwidth. I am a legit guy just wanting to make sure the bandwidth is good. You can contact me offline or private message me if you are interested.

My current server has multiple OC-3 connections which I can pull the file through to see the throughput. I would like to try a couple of times at different times of the day.

Many many thanks to anyone who can help. I will be happy to post my results on the forum here for everyone else to see.

Plattapuss :eek:

Try:
http://216.40.226.212/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz

That is the halflife dedicated server package for UNIX. 110 MB or so.

The file is on a dual P3 with 1.5 Gig of RAM with a load of 0.14. This should give you a "best case" test.

If you find the bandwidth bad for some reason, then tell me some alternatives. I have a couple of really heavily used sites and my users are getting frustrated with slow response. I'm about to get a couple more dual-P3s from rackshack, but I will go elsewhere if you think my problem is the network and not the servers themselves.

Jim

A sustained 220KB/s for me ( only let it go for a min or two )... pretty nice. Then again I've tried the same test on another Rackshack server ( Raq4 I believe ) and was only getting about 25KB/s. This was a few months ago though so they may have gotten any network hangups ironed out.

im on a dsl connection so it hit 80kb heheh

Downlaod on ADSL 27kb/s (I´m in europe)

So far this is what i am getting

675KBps from our server in NJ. This is good.
50-100KBps from my home cable connection. This is not so good but then again I am currently getting the same from our server.
A traceroute reveils roughly the same results (through a different route) from my home to our server and to RS server. This is also good.
A Traceroute from our NJ server to the RS server shows a hangup with a router owned by Verio. This makes it hard to get an accurate picture.
From a server downtown Montreal connected to a *good* T3 we are getting 275KB per second which is okay. I am still waiting for the results of the T3 to our server but will let you know when I get them.

I will do some pings throughout the day to check for latency too and then rerun my tests again a couple of times tonight during typical peak hours.

It is not so much the server that I want to test, but simply the quality of the connection to the internet being offered by RS.

I will also start running some load test (nothing that will affect the use of your server though) and get back to you on those too. :D

Until then, plattapuss out! :stickout

Originally posted by chilediez
Downlaod on ADSL 27kb/s (I´m in europe)

What speed do you normally get?

Is there anyway we can compare the speeds at rackshack.net with the speeds at another provider like rackspace.com?

Jim

Try our server at Datapipe in New Jersey.

http://www.amigo-3.com/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz

For http://216.40.226.212/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz , I'm getting about 58.9KB/s , which isn't bad on an ADSL line (UK).

I'll also be interested to see how good the bandwidth is at Rackshack.

Alan

Originally posted by Plattapuss
Try our server at Datapipe in New Jersey.

http://www.amigo-3.com/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz

From my cable modem at home I get about the same transfer speed from my server as I do from yours. That is most likely because my cable modem is limiting the speed. In both cases I got about 200kb/sec.

From my server at rackshack to your server I got a transfer speed of 771kb/sec.

Jim

Originally posted by jbourke


What speed do you normally get?

Is there anyway we can compare the speeds at rackshack.net with the speeds at another provider like rackspace.com?

Jim


Average from most server is the US 50-90Kb/s, for most server in europe 100-150kb/s (peaks at 250kb/s).


I tried to downdload it and I got 42kb/s

On my ADSL, I get sustained 150Kbyte/s , which is the highest I can go with a cap.

Just to keep the thread on track. We now have two download sites to test. The RackShack site and a Datapipe site in NJ.

If you test the download speeds, please post where you are geographically and the results in KBps. This way we will have some overall averages to look at. If you can supply the traceroute also juse to show any strange network entities between you and the two servers, that would be great too.

here are the two sites (anyone else want to volunteer some bandwidth to test things on).

http://www.amigo-3.com/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz - Newjersey Datapipe
http://216.40.226.212/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz - Rackshack Texas (I think)

many thanks for the results.

Originally posted by Plattapuss
here are the two sites (anyone else want to volunteer some bandwidth to test things on).

http://www.amigo-3.com/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz - Newjersey Datapipe
http://216.40.226.212/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz - Rackshack Texas (I think)


First of all, testing from any one location doesn't tell you much except what performance is like to that one location at that time. To get a truly accurate picture of the quality of connectivity any network has, you need multiple sampling points (geographically as well as virtually), over a considerable period of time.

We subscribe to the Keynote testing service and consistently score between 0.29 and 0.35 seconds load time. Their rating of average business Web sites is several times higher than that. Keynote is not a cheap subscription, though.

Anyhow, testing from our network yielded 845.23 kilobytes/sec for the Datapipe URL, and 824.58 kilobytes/sec from Rackshack. We reach Datapipe through our Cable & Wireless DS-3, and Rackshack through our SAVVIS DS-3.

You can download the same file from our network at http://www2.pair.com/sigma/hlds_l_3108_full.tar.gz

Kevin

On my cable modem in Sydney, Australia I get:

40KB/s from Datapipe
110KB/s from Rackshack
130KB/s from Pair
(none of these are close to the max I've had on the cable modem - but who knows what's going on with our international link at any given time.)

Traceroute if anyone wanted to look at it : http://members.optushome.com.au/wolfy/tracert.html

17 hops to both Datapipe and Rackshack and 12 to Pair.

No offense cable/dsl guys, but unless you're sitting on a big, fat a$$ pipe, your numbers don't help a lot.

That said, here what I got from one of my boxes (this one is at Interliant...)

Rackshack file: 979.70 KB/s via Sprint, TimeWarner

NJ Amigo-3 file: 1.07 MB/s via Sprint, Internap

Sigma Pair file: 1.31 MB/s via Sprint

One thing I've always wondered, all these numbers are around 1 MB/s - isn't this less than the capacity of a T1? Since I've got multiple OC3's on my end, how's that really work?

Brandon

Some results from Germany:

Friday night at 2am
i had about 45kb/s on all 3 files, which were posted here.
I'm habing an ADSL Line from German Telekom, which is the biggest ISP in Germany. So let's trace to the different locations:

1) DTAG (German Telekom)

3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw13.HH.NET.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.195) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.6.38) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
6 Vienna-gw13.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.174) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
7 p4-1-1-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.197) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
8 p16-2-0-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.34) 115 ms 115 ms 115 ms
9 p16-0-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.5) 115 ms * 115 ms
10 p4-0-0-0.r00.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.194) 120 ms 120 ms 120 ms
11 ge-1-1-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.30.216) 120 ms 120 ms 120 ms
12 p1-1-0-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ce.verio.net (128.241.9.246) 143 ms 143 ms 124 ms
13 tayhou-223-34.ev1.net (207.218.223.34) 122 ms 122 ms 122 ms
14 216.40.226.212 (216.40.226.212) 122 ms 122 ms 122 ms

3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw12.HH.net.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.194) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 NYC-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.130) 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms
6 194.25.6.34 (194.25.6.34) 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms
7 pos2-0-2488M.cr1.JFK1.gblx.net (64.214.65.213) 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms
8 so-0-0-0-2488M.ar1.JFK1.gblx.net (64.214.65.198) 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms
9 InterNAPNewYork2.p0-0-0.ar3.JFK.gblx.net (64.211.60.42) 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms
10 border22.ge2-0-bbnet1.nyc.pnap.net (209.191.128.90) 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms
11 datapipe-2.border22.nyc.pnap.net (216.223.47.98) 83 ms 84 ms 83 ms
12 aggr1.vlan820.ewr.datapipe.net (216.109.128.54) 83 ms 102 ms 82 ms
13 amigo-3.com (66.70.35.150) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms

3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw13.HH.NET.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.195) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.6.38) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
6 Vienna-gw13.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.174) 84 ms 83 ms 83 ms
7 sl-gw20-rly-2-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.255.9) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
8 sl-bb23-rly-3-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.45) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
9 sl-bb22-rly-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.137) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
10 sl-fb1-rly-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.86) 84 ms 84 ms 84 ms
11 208.30.208.42 (208.30.208.42) 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms
12 gamma.pair.com (209.68.1.13) 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms

2) Provider with various peerings in Germany

2 GbitEth-1-0.Cisco12012GRP.CORE.i-p-x.de (212.123.97.4) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
3 IP-Exchange.N-1-pos021.de.lambdanet.net (217.71.108.209) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 D-2-pos212.de.lambdanet.net (217.71.105.173) 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms
5 TH3-1-pos031.uk.lambdanet.net (217.71.96.229) 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms
6 ge-0.linx.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net (195.66.224.138) 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms
7 p4-0-1-0.r01.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.34) 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms
8 p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.181) 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms
9 p4-0-1-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.177) 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms
10 p4-1-1-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.9) 88 ms 87 ms 87 ms
11 p16-4-0-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.12) 88 ms 88 ms 88 ms
12 p4-2-1-0.r01.nycmny06.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.210) 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms
13 p4-7-0-0.r00.nycmny06.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.192) 89 ms 88 ms 89 ms
14 p4-4-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.182) 93 ms 93 ms 93 ms
15 p16-7-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.158) 94 ms 94 ms 94 ms
16 p16-2-0-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.34) 142 ms 141 ms 141 ms
17 p16-0-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.5) 141 ms 141 ms 141 ms
18 p4-0-0-0.r00.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.194) 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms
19 ge-1-1-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.30.216) 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms
20 p1-1-0-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ce.verio.net (128.241.9.246) 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms
21 tayhou-223-34.ev1.net (207.218.223.34) 141 ms 140 ms 140 ms
22 216.40.226.212 (216.40.226.212) 141 ms 141 ms 144 ms

2 GbitEth-1-0.Cisco12012GRP.CORE.i-p-x.de (212.123.97.4) 0 ms 0 ms 1 ms
3 pos8-1.hsipaccess1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (212.162.47.93) 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms
4 unknown.Level3.net (195.122.136.34) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
5 so-1-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net (212.187.128.49) 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms
6 so-1-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.Level3.net (212.187.128.138) 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms
7 so-3-0-0.mp2.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.0.230) 91 ms 90 ms 90 ms
8 gigabitethernet8-2.core2.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.18.166) 92 ms 90 ms 91 ms
9 mae-east-splitrock.net (198.32.187.89) 119 ms 119 ms 119 ms
10 MLE2G2-CHC3G2.splitrock.net (63.253.42.149) 132 ms 132 ms 132 ms
11 FMHLA-CHC3G1.splitrock.net (209.156.104.42) 142 ms 142 ms 142 ms
12 zzz-064198180146.splitrock.net (64.198.180.146) 147 ms 148 ms 148 ms
*** --> Firewalled from here
So that was amigo3.com

2 GbitEth-1-0.Cisco12012GRP.CORE.i-p-x.de (212.123.97.4) 1 ms 0 ms 1 ms
3 pos8-1.hsipaccess1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (212.162.47.93) 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms
4 unknown.Level3.net (195.122.136.34) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
5 so-1-0-0.mp1.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.1) 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms
6 gigabitethernet1-1.core1.London1.Level3.net (212.187.131.99) 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms
7 pos2-0.metro1-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net (212.113.0.113) 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms
8 fe3-0-0.ar1.lon2.gblx.net (195.66.224.112) 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms
9 pos5-0-622M.cr1.LON3.gblx.net (208.49.136.53) 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms
10 pos1-0-622M.cr1.CLE1.gblx.net (206.132.111.110) 97 ms 97 ms 97 ms
11 so-0-0-0-622M.ar2.CLE1.gblx.net (206.132.111.158) 97 ms 97 ms 97 ms
12 PairNetworks.t3-1-0-0.ar2.CLE1.gblx.net (64.211.111.110) 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms
13 gamma.pair.com (209.68.1.13) 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms

A T1 is 193KBYTESps, 1544KbITSps.

It's true. (more precisely is 188.5kb/s)

Correct me if i'm wrong. The OC3 oftens offerred fractional bandwidth, not to mention other path loss factors taken into account depending on hardware/peripheral conditions, routes taken... etc.

P on RS. This shows some good times so far and the traceroutes are interesting. Any chance of getting some more results during peak hours at various times of the night and on saturday?

Case matters: Kbps is Kilobits per second
KBps is KiloBytes per second.

It is everything to get this correct.

It is true that the Cable and xDSL people are not able to give accurate results. But they do show the results of various routes into RS. If I am not mistaken RS has 5 different major connections. Curious to see how each responds if they get used.

Any thoughts on uptime from RS are important too. Any clients have anything to say about the uptime of their network? I know this is difficult to tell so soon after their move to the new facilities. I would be curious to know what peoples experience are with the solidity of the connections as well as the bandwidth.

Plattapuss :beer:

I hope those hosting sites did not burst their connection only this time coz probably they know that you are testing their speed.
Coz this is good promotion to them specially in this forum.

Just my opinion. :D

Originally posted by cbtrussell
No offense cable/dsl guys, but unless you're sitting on a big, fat a$$ pipe, your numbers don't help a lot.


The numbers do give various views of throughput from various locations. The fact that the last link has a particular fixed amount of bandwidth does not invalidate the test. Every surfer has a specific set of limitations on his or her connectivity.

One thing I've always wondered, all these numbers are around 1 MB/s - isn't this less than the capacity of a T1? Since I've got multiple OC3's on my end, how's that really work?


It isn't just straight math, largest pipes win. It's a combination of throughput, latency, packet loss, and TCP behaviors between hosts. The various factors which affect throughput are part of a fairly complicated science.

Still, it's nice to see those big numbers :)

Kevin

Originally posted by jbourke


From my server at rackshack to your server I got a transfer speed of 771kb/sec.

Jim

rackshack and rackshack
go figure

Originally posted by clocker1996

rackshack and rackshack
go figure

Yeah, aren't we stupid. :rolleyes:

Jim

Just to refresh that ...

seems as the file at RS was taken down, i suppose due too much traffic ;-))
anyway ... i tested the two other files, and i had 90kb/s from Germany! wow, that's the maximum i can get. Very impressive.
However some traceroutes taking some other ways.
Have a look:

1) T-Online

3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw13.HH.NET.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.195) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.6.38) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
6 Vienna-gw13.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.174) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
7 sl-gw20-rly-2-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.255.9) 470 ms 464 ms 461 ms
8 sl-bb23-rly-3-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.45) 468 ms 467 ms 467 ms
9 sl-bb22-rly-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.137) 469 ms 483 ms 490 ms
10 sl-fb1-rly-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.86) 489 ms 495 ms 492 ms
11 208.30.208.42 (208.30.208.42) 496 ms 524 ms 521 ms
12 gamma.pair.com (209.68.1.13) 520 ms 511 ms 517 ms
Whoo, 520ms ? what the heck? But i had 90kb/s download speed...

1 62.225.255.225 (62.225.255.225) 28.713 ms 28.081 ms 28.680 ms
2 62.225.255.226 (62.225.255.226) 27.979 ms 30.245 ms *
3 Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.190) 119.286 ms 119.708 ms 118.905 ms
4 pos3-3.core2.Washington1.Level3.net (209.0.227.125) 118.938 ms 120.123 ms *
5 ae0-53.mp1.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.18.65) 122.065 ms 121.646 ms 121.883 ms
6 so-2-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.247.9.89) 125.926 ms 124.470 ms *
7 gige7-0.ipcolo1.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.17.35) 126.021 ms 125.421 ms 124.047 ms
8 pos11-0.hsipaccess1.Newark1.Level3.net (209.244.12.182) 125.449 ms 127.409 ms *
9 core1.ewr.datapipe.net (64.156.0.30) 226.967 ms 290.822 ms 132.831 ms
10 aggr1.vlan720.ewr.datapipe.net (216.109.128.46) 216.738 ms 243.677 ms 198.573 ms
11 amigo-3.com (66.70.35.150) 124.517 ms 124.497 ms 123.992 ms
That one is now going through Level3 instead of pnap.net before

Greets from Germany

Originally posted by BiGWill
1) T-Online

3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw13.HH.NET.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.195) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.6.38) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
6 Vienna-gw13.USA.net.DTAG.DE (62.156.131.174) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
7 sl-gw20-rly-2-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.255.9) 470 ms 464 ms 461 ms
8 sl-bb23-rly-3-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.45) 468 ms 467 ms 467 ms
9 sl-bb22-rly-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.137) 469 ms 483 ms 490 ms
10 sl-fb1-rly-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.86) 489 ms 495 ms 492 ms
11 208.30.208.42 (208.30.208.42) 496 ms 524 ms 521 ms
12 gamma.pair.com (209.68.1.13) 520 ms 511 ms 517 ms
Whoo, 520ms ? what the heck? But i had 90kb/s download speed...



Looks like a peering problem between Sprint and DTAG. Must not have been too serious if you were still getting maximum throughput. The trace back to you is 89ms now.

Kevin