I have a dedicated server through them and for the most part I've been happy with it.


However last week I wanted to install a new package using RPM. Unfortunately the version of RPM that is on the server is very old and doesn't support most new packages.

From *****s web page on dedicated servers I see the following: "As new hardware and SOFTWARE come available ***** will upgrade your dedicated server for free...."

Well it turns out that their dedicated Linux servers run a customer Red Hat configuration and they can't upgrade it without wiping out all of the custom scripts that are on the machine. So the server essentially cannot be upgraded to a newer OS unless you are willing to recompile and install all of the applications and scripts on the machine.

Just ANOTHER reason that you might want to think long and hard before using *****.

Sorry about that.

This particular problem is becoming more widespread as more established hosting firms now have a considerable inventory of older servers. They post on their sites the configuration of their new servers....but what about the old ones....

Originally posted by Incognito
This particular problem is becoming more widespread as more established hosting firms now have a considerable inventory of older servers. They post on their sites the configuration of their new servers....but what about the old ones....

http://www.pair.com/pair/support/library/serverconfig/serverdetails.html

Well, you did ask :)

Kevin

Originally posted by sigma


http://www.pair.com/pair/support/library/serverconfig/serverdetails.html

Well, you did ask :)

Kevin

Please oh please tell me that you are going to give me a couple of those ;) Seriously though, that is amazing.

Originally posted by Mbuna
Well it turns out that their dedicated Linux servers run a customer Red Hat configuration and they can't upgrade it without wiping out all of the custom scripts that are on the machine. So the server essentially cannot be upgraded to a newer OS unless you are willing to recompile and install all of the applications and scripts on the machine.




Igh, anyways, it does state clearly on their page that their custom scripts only work with redhat 5.2, but that they will upgrade to RH 7.1 for free... (breaking their scripts though)....

http://www.pair.com/pair/support/li...verdetails.html

Well, you did ask

Kevin

Interesting. You guys have such good uptime (FreeBSD) and customer satisfaction, I would have guessed that your servers would be more beefed up. I didn't see one with over 512 RAM. I understand off loading the DBs helps out, but it was still interesting considering we use dual PIIIs and 1 - 2 GBs RAM. Can you tell me how many sites you host on these servers on average?

Also, why do you assign different POP mail server names? Most just add an A Record and give pop or mail.theirdomain.com. Is there a reason? Also, doesn't this increase support having so many mail server names?

I am still amazed at the RAM thing. We may need to reevaluate FreeBSD over RH.

Thanks.

Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Interesting. You guys have such good uptime (FreeBSD) and customer satisfaction, I would have guessed that your servers would be more beefed up. I didn't see one with over 512 RAM. I understand off loading the DBs helps out, but it was still interesting considering we use dual PIIIs and 1 - 2 GBs RAM. Can you tell me how many sites you host on these servers on average?


FreeBSD has excellent memory management, and 256MB has been plenty in most cases. We did a few upgrades to 512MB just recently - it's usually PHP4 driving up memory usage. With the eventual release of Apache 2.0, I expect memory usage will again decrease.


Also, why do you assign different POP mail server names? Most just add an A Record and give pop or mail.theirdomain.com. Is there a reason? Also, doesn't this increase support having so many mail server names?


Increase support how? Users typically just use mail.theirdomain.com, but not all users have domains. The alias is just there as a convention, much like www#, ftp#, and so forth.


I am still amazed at the RAM thing. We may need to reevaluate FreeBSD over RH.


By all means do so. Not that there's anything wrong with Linux AFAIK.

Kevin

If it is not top secret, how many sites do you typically host on those machines. PM me and I'll keep it secret. :)