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Estez
09-21-2004, 06:16 PM
Hi,

I'm new to this forum but so far it has been a big help. I have a question. If you wanted to host a site and you wanted it to be on one of the best US networks what data center would you want the host to use?
I have heard that Savvis is really good but another person told me to use Internap because it's one of the best. I am not really concerned about cost because I'm willing to pay for the extra quality. So no budget datacenters please this will be for a high income business website. I'm asking if you wanted to ensure the highest quality as far as networks go (customer service is a different discussion) who would you select? Also could you tell me of hosts that offer accounts on Savvis or Internap networks or those that you suggest?

wheimeng
09-21-2004, 06:31 PM
Are you looking to colocate? I know a few DCs that have quality network.

West / East / Central?

Dedicatedone
09-21-2004, 08:08 PM
I'd actually put customer service apart of this one, because if you have any downtime or any other problems, you'll need good customer service.

Internap is expensive but one of the best out there. I believe Google uses them and their sites load extremely quick.

If you're looking for good speed all around the US, I'd suggest a central location.

dwieland
09-21-2004, 09:51 PM
We've really been impressed with Equinix DCs so far. We are investigating a new DC in Iowa that is a virtual equinix replica (on Internap too)...we'll see how it goes. Here is the (albeit unfinished) site:

http://www.teamnet.net/master.htm

Any thoughts?

Archbob
09-22-2004, 12:40 PM
ThePlanet is what I'm in and have no complaints so far.

privatenoc
09-22-2004, 04:38 PM
the planet. ive been is dllstx4 for 3 mnths, and have 100.00% uptime!

maxhest
09-22-2004, 07:16 PM
Colosolutions in Orlando Metro is a very good datacenter. They withstood all of the hurricanes with no downtime!!

tonyolm
09-22-2004, 07:37 PM
We used savvis for our fiber coming into our building. They were excellent. Only reason we switch providers was they closed thier POP in Buffalo NY and the Local loops charges would of killed us to continue with them.

Couldn't beat thier network or service. Lately though a few people mentioned they are becoming host freindly to spammers.

MaB
09-22-2004, 07:37 PM
I've never used InterNap so I can't compare the 2, however we currently use Savvis and it's been excellent... network is top notch, datacenter (Jersey City, NJ) is always cool, raised flooring, redundant/backup power, 24/7 access... what more could you want?

In my opinion they are a tad expensive (though probably less than nost NYC colos).... but the little extra money is well worth it


If you want to talk to a Savvis sales rep, I'll give you my contacts info, he's been nothing but excellent to us.

StackHost
09-22-2004, 08:25 PM
I would suggest The Planet. They have good customer service and a great tech team.

XtremeBandwidth
09-22-2004, 08:54 PM
Colocate with Equinix, that way you have the ability to choose from many different networks. If you move into a datacenter and you have a lot of equipment, its pretty safe to say your stuck with that datacenter and whichever bandwidth is in the facility. They can drive the pricing up. If you choose Equinix, make sure you get a good deal, you'll have the ability to expand and choose practically any carrier in the world.

robgct
09-22-2004, 09:14 PM
best = NAC / 15minuteservers.com

FHDave
09-22-2004, 09:18 PM
Equinix IBX is the best datacenter money one can get into.

Joshua
09-22-2004, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by dwieland
We've really been impressed with Equinix DCs so far. We are investigating a new DC in Iowa that is a virtual equinix replica (on Internap too)...we'll see how it goes. Here is the (albeit unfinished) site:

http://www.teamnet.net/master.htm

Any thoughts? That's the datacenter that FastServers.net leases space in. I ran across the site for the company that built the facility, which had a ton of details about the facility, but I don't remember that company's name.

dwieland
09-22-2004, 09:45 PM
TEAM technologies is the name of the company.

sergio80
09-22-2004, 10:37 PM
I would say Theplanet and they are also inexpensive

XtremeBandwidth
09-22-2004, 11:20 PM
If you planning on being a large hosting company and colocating under another large hosting company (theplanet) you are kind of of shooting yourself in the foot and feeding to your competitor. You should choose a Carrier Neutral datacenter, not a dedicated server company. If you start getting into the 10+ cabinet range your still under hosting companies control with bandwidth and so fourth.

PhMatt
02-24-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by wadearnold
If that is the case like the for mentioned ThePlanet then you are already basically in a none carrier neutral facility. Even worse, you are trusting a hosting company who knows how to manage operating systems and hardware in the case of ThePlanet exceptionally well. But there role and business model is not that of a datacenter operator and their focus is not networks, power, BGB, peering, routing, and the many other roles of a datacenter facility.

in closing I would like to hear an example of a datacenter that “drove pricing up” after they had accounts in the facility. Our partner pricing places cabinets around $750 a cabinet a month. Why would any center want to try make money off of bandwidth when they could potentially loose the customer over a couple bucks a meg that is already paying 8,000+ a year? It just doesn’t make any economical sense.

Please post if you have questions and dwieland and any others that would like to test our center call me today and I promise an introductory offer you can’t refuse.

In respect to your obvious attempts at spamming and bringing up a 5+ month old thread to promote your services, your advice is incorrect in my opinion. The Planet as mentioned, is build on a business model that their focus is their network, power, BGP, peering, routing and the many other roles of a datacenter, it's exactly that, and more. The role of a DC is not only their ability to effectively manage those tasks, but provide support for customer solutions, hosting, etc. A typical DC far surpasses that of a carrier neutral facility for service and support, forcing less responsibility on the customer to fully manage their entire operations including networking, peering, routing, but adding on the role of monitoring, support, rebuilds, re-installs, etc. Most carrier neutral facilities come with some extremely high rates for hands on support (+$200 an hour in the cases I've seen) and do not have the experience or qualifications to diagnose and support custom user OS's, control panels, etc. A DC offering collocation not only provides the network and above mentioned items, but doubles in service level support for clients. So, in closing, depending on the service level needed, a DC typically provides far more support and services than a carrier neutral facility will, with more management options, and less hands on needs.

Thank you,

Matthew McCormick