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blinkinhek
01-16-2002, 06:29 AM
Hi,

I have a reseller account with a company and I have not as yet put any clients on this server however the server load in the 'Service Status' within Webhost Manager seems to be on the red [ 1.61 (1 cpu) ] each time I look at it.

Is this a problem?

UnifiedCons
01-16-2002, 07:58 AM
Yeah, if it's a Unix machine you probably just have a runaway process somewhere. If you have shell access, run the command 'top' to see what's eating all your CPU time.

HRBrendan
01-16-2002, 08:50 AM
If the load is constantly in the 1 range that really isnt that bad of a load for a server.

-Brendan

UnifiedCons
01-16-2002, 08:54 AM
But if he doesn't have anyone on it yet, there shouldn't really be any CPU-intensive processes running. In fact, he should be expecting load near 0.

blinkinhek
01-16-2002, 08:54 AM
Just checked it again and it is now 3.41, I am awaiting a response from this reseller to see what he says.

I am quite surprised that he uses servers with only one CPU and 512mb for use of placing reselling accounts on.

blinkinhek
01-16-2002, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by UnifiedCons
But if he doesn't have anyone on it yet, there shouldn't really be any CPU-intensive processes running. In fact, he should be expecting load near 0.

Sorry, I dont have any accounts on this server at the moment however there are other reseller accounts on this server.

UnifiedCons
01-16-2002, 09:45 AM
Did you try running top? Or do you not have shell access?

method5
01-16-2002, 10:34 AM
But if he doesn't have anyone on it yet, there shouldn't really be any CPU-intensive processes running. In fact, he should be expecting load near 0.

Hosts do put more then one reseller on a server. Other resellers could have accounts on there too.

airtime166
01-16-2002, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by blinkinhek
I am quite surprised that he uses servers with only one CPU and 512mb for use of placing reselling accounts on.


there is nothing wrong with having 1 cpu and 512 ram for reseller i have been running those specs for over a year now with no problems , he may have a shopping cart installed on the serve , thats running the cpu load high this will happen evn if you had 2 cpu's


Mas

AL-Benjamin
01-16-2002, 01:56 PM
i didn't loads that high were bad, my host runs the same sort of values.

is the following bad too then?

Disk /sda5 (/home) 84 %
Disk /sda6 (/usr) 83 %
Disk /sda7 (/var) 81 %

airtime166
01-16-2002, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by thebyp2
i didn't loads that high were bad, my host runs the same sort of values.

is the following bad too then?

Disk /sda5 (/home) 84 %
Disk /sda6 (/usr) 83 %
Disk /sda7 (/var) 81 %


this thread is about cpu loads not the disk space % :)

zdwebhosting
01-16-2002, 02:10 PM
i have about 10 customers on my 1ghz server and the load average is never above 0.1 unless i mirroring files and it might jump to .5 but i am pushing like tons of traffic

and i just started this site last week utforums.com and it has over 100 posts a day and load averages still down.

if your server running over .5 you have somthing wrong if its nothing on it.

AL-Benjamin
01-16-2002, 02:10 PM
this thread is about cpu loads not the disk space %

Yep i know that:rolleyes:

i did't think that it would be worth starting a new thread when this one is so similar. It was this thread afterall that made me question my hosts load averages.

(1.3 just incase your interested)

MCHost-Marc
01-16-2002, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by thebyp2
is the following bad too then?

Disk /sda5 (/home) 84 %
Disk /sda6 (/usr) 83 %
Disk /sda7 (/var) 81 %
Not too bad, but a few more heavy hits or lots of emails being sent out and it becomes critical ...someone should probably clean out their apache (in /usr) and exim logs (in /var) more often.

AL-Benjamin
01-16-2002, 02:20 PM
oooooooooooooo... the load just jumped to 2.6

Lmax
01-16-2002, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by ************

and i just started this site last week utforums.com and it has over 100 posts a day and load averages still down.


!00 posts a day isn't that much. On my server i have one forum that has between 500 and 1000 posts a day, and that's just one of the several forums on the server.
The server is a Pent III 1 Ghz with 512mb. Load is average about .3. It may jump over 1.0 at log rotation times, but the server runs smooth.

I'll put in some extra RAM next week to make it even run smoother.

airtime166
01-16-2002, 03:10 PM
when cpu load reach 8.00 i will worry

UnifiedCons
01-16-2002, 03:19 PM
Just to clarify what exactly the "load" is: The "load" (or more commonly "load average" over a period of time) is the number of processes in the server's run queue. That is, the load is the number of processes competing for the CPU's attention.

This is why top (and similar commands) are critical for figuring out why you have a high load average. You must know exactly what processes are competing for the CPU's attention. Often, you will find 'runaway' programs that shouldn't be using the CPU at all. If you have consistantly high load averages (>1.0) on your system, you should look into it.

zdwebhosting
01-16-2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Lmax


!00 posts a day isn't that much. On my server i have one forum that has between 500 and 1000 posts a day, and that's just one of the several forums on the server.
The server is a Pent III 1 Ghz with 512mb. Load is average about .3. It may jump over 1.0 at log rotation times, but the server runs smooth.

I'll put in some extra RAM next week to make it even run smoother.

Lmax , did'nt mean to sound like my forums were the best or anything i am just saying for a brand new set of forums 100 posts a day is not bad at all for first week and half.

dont know what you consider good but thats good in my book.

ReliableServers
01-16-2002, 07:27 PM
I have freebsd machines running with loads of less than 1 and others running with a load of 8-10 during hightraffic(20+Mbit) times. The server responds fine and everthing is loaded on the pages the users request with no noticable delay. This is all html, no cgi or mysql.

Just my 15cents worth of worthless info.

Lmax
01-16-2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by ************


Lmax , did'nt mean to sound like my forums were the best or anything i am just saying for a brand new set of forums 100 posts a day is not bad at all for first week and half.

dont know what you consider good but thats good in my book.

Didn't want to offend you, i'm just making clear a server can handle a lot more then people think. And if server load rises, just put in some extra memory. At the time memory is short you should already make some profit and easily be able to put in some extra stuff. If not you're doing something wrong.

bteeter
01-16-2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Lmax


Didn't want to offend you, i'm just making clear a server can handle a lot more then people think. And if server load rises, just put in some extra memory. At the time memory is short you should already make some profit and easily be able to put in some extra stuff. If not you're doing something wrong.

Agreed. Although our servers sit around 0.3 or so load on the average day, they can handle much more. I've seen one server jump to over 20 and still serve web requests without any delay. (I was terminating a spammer's account when this happened. He was blasting out email at around 3000 messages a minute at the time. Bastard!)

Like was said above memory is key. If your system doesn't have to swap to disk, it could handle consistently high loads (20+) without problem. But, the minute it needs virtual memory, it will run like molases at loads that high.

Take care,

Brian