Hi all,

This is about the ridiculous business model from popuptraffic.com, which is part of SI (www.standardinternet.com)

I used popuptraffic from October 2001 and I earned more than $80 in November, and then more than $100 in December 2001.

This is what happened.

According to the schedule, they should mail the check to me by the mid dec. 2001. I still haven't got the check last week, so I wrote to ask popuptraffic to check the status for me. I was so surprised to find that my account was deleted yesterday and got a reply from Tony (from popuptraffic) telling me my account was deleted because all the traffic was from China.

I was very angry and felt being cheated.
1. According to the webtrendslive, more than half of the traffic was from North America. Even if popuptraffic don't count the traffic from China, they should count the traffic from the other countries, like Canada and US. Why my whole account was deleted?
2. It was a lie from popuptraffic that all my traffic was from China. I used to have zoneedit's service to redirect my domain to an IP, and as you may or may not know, zoneedit's service was blocked by China Telecom, which means whoever reached my site, most of them were not from China.
3. Why they didn't tell me earlier???!!! According to the schedule, they should mail me the check by the mid December, which also means they had the excuse to delete my account at that time. But they didn't do anything but let the banners popped up on my web, until I asked for my status last week.

I think popuptraffic delibrately planned to use my site to generate money for them, even they know they will delete my account later.

I posted the problem at its own forum, and my post got deleted within minutes, I posted again, they deleted again. I asked why they deleted my post and why they are afraid of the truth to be heard, they deleted my post and delete my account at the forum.

It's not an honest way to do business!!! I trusted it, so I didn't make any copies. Now everything is gone and they don't reply my messages anymore.

I think they are cheating people and I am asking for your guys' opinions.
1. Is there any way to get the money back?
2. Besides reporting it to BBB, what other busienss department can I report this problem?
3. What are the websites and forums that people diccuss the online ads? I would like to spread the word there.

Thank you very much for the help!

Well I see you had a problem. I had one to in november, but I got that check. They are located by that post office that had the anthrax.

I use them as an alternitive revenue steam. I have been getting my funds on average of 50 days of the closing date. they pay the fastest.

Also, redirecting traffic might be a tos under there rules.

-sqposter / michael

From what I've read on other forums I thought that SI was a reputable company, however it seems that a few more complaints about them are coming out. And there is a forum at geekvillage.com specifically about making money on the internet.

Thanks.

Regarding the redirecting, I just pointed the domain to an IP or just a webstie. It's not against the rule, because you can put the code into any webpage. You don't even need to give them a url.

Something coufused me is, why they didn't delete my account until I ask. It seems they try to use my traffic to generate money for them. and then when you ask for the check, they know they can't use you anymore, then they just delete you.

Thanks.

don't have any answer for you. but I can say this. my traffic picture and there traffic picture in not the same. they have way better geo location for ip's than anybody else I know.

Also, I've never heard of a problem like the one you are stating. You are the first one. I'm sorry to here of the bad news.

- Sqposter / Michael

The reason I chose si was because people say it was good. Actually I am OK if they don't pay me.

what made me angry was:
They didn't delete my account until I asked them to check my status. If they don't want to pay, they should delete my account a long time ago.

"ALL" is a lie.

They deleted my post at their own forums without any reasons, and then they deleted my account there.

I send messages to si telling them what had happened and nobody answered.

You see, I am talking about the business attitude.

And, if we talk about money, they should stop my account and notify me, when they knew they wanted to delete my account, but they just use my site to generate money until I asked.

I feel being cheated and being used.