Hi readers,
I used to work for technohosts.com (i dont any more). I was the system administrator for them managing the servers. After getting Chris out of a jam about 2 months ago he hired me as a sys admin. Me not knowing chrises history of cheating people out of money i accepted. soon i relized id been working for a month and had gotten no pay. i told chris i want to get paid he said he would. After procrastinating and coming up with many different excusses i never got my money. It is now 2 months since i did that job for him and i still have not gotten any money. To make it even worse he told me he sent the check and i never got it, so he down right lied to me. Also all the other time i work in november he says he cant pay me because the hours are not documented properly, even though they are. I am pissed off about this matter i am not a amatuer sys admin that should be waisting my time with some ass that doesnt pay. I have also recently found out 100's of other people have been cheated out of their money when working for technohosts. I hope you all please steer clear of technohosts.com, pelase do not do any business with these cheats. I appreciate the time you've taken to read this thread.

Sincerely,
Pat

PS: Chris Gentile, if you're looking at this message, be aware that I along with tons of other people are already seeking legal action against you

TechnoHosts is a fruad. I too was a former employee for web design. The owner Chris Gentile lied and promised me many different things. I remember 2 years ago before TechnoHosts started when it was "Teclet". I did teclet's web site and he hired me to make an FTP program for them in exchange for a free compaq computer (he claimed they were affiliated LOL). Now, about 2 years later, I gave him another chance and I did web site work for him. I never saw one DIME. And whenever I, or anyone talks to him about it, he's either busy, or he just signs off or hangs up. I hope this thread will tick him off just a bit, because he is by far the worst business-man and company owner I have ever known. Don't go with TechnoHosts. It's not a smart thing.

Hi, I'm mike from ADEhost.com. I'm the owner. Upon the purchase of the firm there was a verbal agreement of some sort with technohost and adehost . at this time I have not been able to get anything specific from the firm technohost in writing even thou I have begged for it. I have given them an outline of my terms, whith very easy proceedures on what to fill out. plus there was little to no legal writting ( a basic agreement written by a human )

I have got nothing yet , This leaves me hosting many accounts without a revenue stream, and these account consume good amount of b/w. I have notified a few of them, eilersdesign happens to be one of the first that was willing to explain many details that were never known to me about the firm Technohost.

I have backed up all the sites that were in the verbal agreement with technohost daily because I can not teke a reputation risk if something goes wrong. and if by the end of this month I have nothing from them I will e-mail each on of the account on my server with full detail and ask them to become monthly clients.

if there is another webhost out there that can give me guilding advice to handle this problem I would be very happy to listen and try understand. I just don't have the heart to let these accounts get deleted and sent to the wind ( just not right by my view ).

Mike the owner adehost

Yeah Ive had very bad experiences with Chris and I know 2 people he promised to pay but they still dont have anything:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ADEhost
Hi, I'm mike from ADEhost.com. I'm the owner. Upon the purchase of the firm there was a verbal agreement of some sort with technohost and adehost . at this time I have not been able to get anything specific from the firm technohost in writing even thou I have begged for it. I have given them an outline of my terms, whith very easy proceedures on what to fill out. plus there was little to no legal writting ( a basic agreement written by a human )

I have got nothing yet , This leaves me hosting many accounts without a revenue stream, and these account consume good amount of b/w. I have notified a few of them, eilersdesign happens to be one of the first that was willing to explain many details that were never known to me about the firm Technohost.

I have backed up all the sites that were in the verbal agreement with technohost daily because I can not teke a reputation risk if something goes wrong. and if by the end of this month I have nothing from them I will e-mail each on of the account on my server with full detail and ask them to become monthly clients.

if there is another webhost out there that can give me guilding advice to handle this problem I would be very happy to listen and try understand. I just don't have the heart to let these accounts get deleted and sent to the wind ( just not right by my view ).

Mike the owner adehost


You should email the customers ASAP and let them know that their accounts have been transferred to you and that you need to update their billing info. Give them 30 days to update this info with you (make a nice, easy form for them to fill out) and remind them every week until the 30 days are up. If they don't submit their new info - suspend (do not delete) their accounts. That will give them an incentive to get ahold of you or move.

Make the notice sound friendly and helpful -and welcome them on board, ask if you can do anything to help, etc.

--Tina

TecletSupport: what the hell?
TecletSupport: Why atrre you posting lies
TecletSupport: Your check was sent!
TecletSupport: remove your post
MonsterNetCEO: why havent i gotten it yet then
TecletSupport: amn I an employee from the USPS
TecletSupport: how would I know why
TecletSupport: Remove your post
TecletSupport: wait 3 days
TecletSupport: if you haventy gotten do what you please
MonsterNetCEO: i thought you sent it overnight
TecletSupport: I sent USPS Express
TecletSupport: USPS doesnt have overnight
MonsterNetCEO: yea they do ive sent people money overnight through usps
TecletSupport: not in our area they don=t
MonsterNetCEO: you have cheated so many people out of money the post is staying
TecletSupport signed off at 12:59:56 PM.

i am very angry at chris! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

monsternetce, I really hope you get your money. If it's actually been two months and you haven't gotton paid I would contact an attorney to see what they can do. By the conversation above, him just signing off isn't really professional BUT there is the possibility he did send it.

I was working for Chris myself I saw he was looking for help here. I took the job and we agreeded on a rate , due to everything else that has happened with Chris I asked for 50% upfront just like on any other jobs. He said I will pay you by usps , I said I don't want to signup with that because they ask your whole life history. We use PayPal currently and I ask him to signup with that he refused cause he lost $500 3 times he says. However he wanted to send a check and I don't like the idea of checks. I like credit card payments myself for tech support work unless I can fully trust that person with our address. I quit because he refused to pay me and I will NOT do work until I get payed by him. Actually I don't ever see myself working for him again. If I was you I would see if you can't find another host. I have friends that have got burned by them and they wasn't to happy either. Now I currently working for AdeBill. Asher is my Pal :).

First of all I would like to thank everyone that's posting this information.

Second:

thank you Tina from AffordableHost.com for your wonderful advise which I'm doing right now as we speak.

Third :

Seems like I'm in a whole lot of sheep dip again because of this new situation, I feel that to protect the customers, I have to protect myself.
So when the stuff hit's the fan I want to post publicly now my resoultions, so that nobody can say that I did not try to do the right thing.

1) All the accounts are backed up

2) they are still up and running I have no intentions of removing them untill there has been some communication with the customers or a contract is presented by techonhost to me. given I might take a hit but I'll keep my name clean.

3) I will help these accounts in any way shape or form to have a good hosting experiance.

I say it, now I'm committed.

So It seems that I'll be having another trail by fire again within 2 to 3 weeks.

Mike of ADEhost

Owner of adehost.com

Originally posted by ADEhost
if there is another webhost out there that can give me guilding advice to handle this problem I would be very happy to listen and try understand. I just don't have the heart to let these accounts get deleted and sent to the wind ( just not right by my view ).\

Mike, you can contact me: I am in a very similar situation with another host, and I may be able to help you on some cases, well, at least the ones like those I could find a solution for.
I, also, am left with clients that I have to wait for months before they renew their -annual!- account. I have solutions for some of them, but for some I can't do jack: they're *unlimited everything*.

I am writing this in public so that people realize that this is a more common situation than you would think.

ps: we have acquired clients from several companies, so please don't draw any conclusion as to whom I'm talking about :(

Regards,

Originally posted by cyansmoker


ps: we have acquired clients from several companies, so please don't draw any conclusion as to whom I'm talking about :(

Regards,


I'm REALLY interested in acquiring customers from hosts going under. Where did you find companies willing to sell? I've found those wanting to sell 50,000 customers...but where do you find a few dozen to a few hundred?

--Tina

Originally posted by AffordableHost



I'm REALLY interested in acquiring customers from hosts going under. Where did you find companies willing to sell? I've found those wanting to sell 50,000 customers...but where do you find a few dozen to a few hundred?

--Tina

Really? I was under the impression that there was many small companies willing to sell out there. Anyway: mostly WebHostingTalk, that would be my -honest- answer. Problem is many of these also are the "bait and switch" type, so with the help of petty misrepresentation you end up buying something else than what you expected.

An ironic twist is that we've been contacted by someone claiming to work with Verio, a couple months ago, in an attempt to acquire us. Could sell them the disgruntled recently acquired clients...;)

I'm extremely careful...I always get everything in writing and make sure I know exactly who I'm dealing with.

--Tina

Contact your state labor division

they will investigate them and handle it for you

they will also audit his employee records taxes and workmans comp filings

I had a employer due this to me once and was amazed at the power they had over a company

also if you worked for him for more than a month also file unemployment

the unemployment office will investigate him if he was your last employer

=)

Originally posted by monsternetce
Hi readers,
I used to work for technohosts.com (i dont any more). I was the system administrator for them managing the servers. After getting Chris out of a jam about 2 months ago he hired me as a sys admin. Me not knowing chrises history of cheating people out of money i accepted. soon i relized id been working for a month and had gotten no pay. i told chris i want to get paid he said he would. After procrastinating and coming up with many different excusses i never got my money. It is now 2 months since i did that job for him and i still have not gotten any money. To make it even worse he told me he sent the check and i never got it, so he down right lied to me. Also all the other time i work in november he says he cant pay me because the hours are not documented properly, even though they are. I am pissed off about this matter i am not a amatuer sys admin that should be waisting my time with some ass that doesnt pay. I have also recently found out 100's of other people have been cheated out of their money when working for technohosts. I hope you all please steer clear of technohosts.com, pelase do not do any business with these cheats. I appreciate the time you've taken to read this thread.

Sincerely,
Pat

PS: Chris Gentile, if you're looking at this message, be aware that I along with tons of other people are already seeking legal action against you


When I first got into the hosting industry, I guess I was vulnerable and jumped at any chance.

Same thing happened to me with TechnoHosts. I only did a few weeks of work, it was still a fair bit though. I had to be on-call on HumanClick computer from 3pm-10:30pm every day. Pay was never talked about properly, he said we'd sort it out and that I would get a reseller account too.

Later on I was in hosthideout and I said something like 'I am working and all i'm getting is a reseller account'. Chris came in that exact moment I pressed enter. Heh, that caused a few problems, he fired me (oh no!).

So for the few weeks of work I did, no reseller acct, no pay. :angry:

Tought me a lesson :angry:



Oh, he also claimed to have 690-something clients. Then he attempts to sell his company here, 200 clients? He either lied or had a real bad retention rate :D

While I'm certainly not an expert in this area, you might want to pursue him in a small claims court.

Good luck everyone... I know how frustrating it can be not to be paid for hard work. God bless

I have never posted anything about this anywhere and didn't intend to.

Chris was in a "bind" and asked me to help him with his first NT server (and only server). He had no clue how to manage the box or the company. I had some problems with annual billing and did not see his business model as profitable, but I decided to help him out in a pinch. I "helped" him by being his sole admin, setting up all accounts, doing 95% of support, etc. I did this for four months. All the while, he was supposed to be sending a check ($1000 per month plus I could host my clients that needed NT on his box). He kept making this excuse and that and promising the check was being sent out "tomorrow" and then that it had been and such.

I just regret that I waited four months to rid myself of him. :-(

It was a 100% waste of my time. As soon as I quit admining his servers, his downtime became deplorable and even the few accounts I had hosted on there I had to move elsewhere. What a nightmare.

Have you seen on how he started to be? Well back in the day, I believe he was a reseller of fasthosts... according to the waybackmachine from archive.org. First bad move, then he cheated all the clients he had, second bad move. Moved to dedicated hosting and cheated hundreds more, 3rd bad move.

And not paying employees? That is just about enough.



By the way, I just got hired by Eryxma Networks as being employee #8 :) Pay is $10 per customer I get, and $18/hour. I don't start till the 18th, and the best part is that I work at home!! :)

Well bless my heart,

I thought only my accounts were in a jam. hmm, there seems to be a pot of water boiling and chris seems like the stew meat.

but anyway some great information you all are giving me and I thank you for it

Mike from adehost

My company Adehost.com

I told Chris that if he got his ass in this mess he has to get his ass out. I recommend that he pays everything he owes so he will be even. But I hope you Mike and all the others get everything taken care of with Chris. Chris may get way by ripping people off in this world but in the hereafter he wont get far...

Hi All,

I saw this thread a while ago and didn't know whether I should post my comments. I have worked quite closely with Chris in the past with web design, support and a few other matters. I cannot comment on other peoples experiences but from my experience with technohosts and chris they have been good to me. I have managed to get a lot off chris in return for what I have done for him.

I don't want to be flamed. I just feel from my personal experience that he has been good to me.

Terry Jacobs

i myst sat - it is fun flaming the crap ou of him on AIM!

Ok woah?

Why was my post deleted? So now we can't express our sole opinions anymore on WHT? I said nothing wrong.......just the truth.

-Ruben

I was also ripped off by Chris Gentile. I designed this for him: http://yeswebmaster.com/mis/designs/technohosts which he used for 2 months before running and hiding in his cave.

He always played dumb when I asked him if he had sent the check yet.

Chrises new scam:

SwiftyHost.com

Originally posted by avara
While I'm certainly not an expert in this area, you might want to pursue him in a small claims court.



If he used emails that crossed State lines, The Postal Service, Western Union or even the telephone to defraud people, then its Federal.
If he is putting up Web sites, taking money from people and not giving what his web site states, then that is Federal.
If people mail him money and not get what they sent that money for, then that is the Postal Service and they kick a--!
The labor board must likely will not help you, as he can say you where a 1099. Plus must labor boards are not set up to handle internet type complaints under State Law.
Your best route if you want to get him: Find customers who paid and did not get what they paid for. Have them file complaints with the FCC for internet fraud. If it was by mail, then file with the US Postal Service.
The Federal level is more suited to handle internet complaints, crimes and problems then the State level.
Small claims forget it: First you can only use your judgment if you find assets in the State that the judgment was issued. People like this know this: They use people not from their State, hide assets and keep very little funds in the bank. He can put everything in his wifes name and you get zero for example.
Work on A federal level crime if you want pay back.....

Originally posted by ^Kyo
Chrises new scam:

SwiftyHost.com

How'd you find out?

This domain name leaked out from the horses mouth itself (chris)
to one of his clients who happens to be a friend he told me.

the WHOIS:

Registrant:
Swifty Host
SwiftyHost, Inc.
3765 sperone ct
Canfield, Ohio 44406
United States

Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SWIFTYHOST.COM
Created on: 16-Jan-02
Expires on: 16-Jan-03
Last Updated on: 16-Jan-02

Administrative Contact:
Host, Swifty admin@swiftyhost.com
SwiftyHost, Inc.
3765 sperone court
canfield, Ohio 44406
United States
1-888-866-7331
Technical Contact:
Host, Swifty support@swiftyhost.com
SwiftyHost, Inc.
3765 sperone court
canfield, Ohio 44406
United States
1-888-866-7331

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK1.GODADDY.COM
PARK2.GODADDY.COM


That is chrises home address. also notice, Swifty Host Inc., he's not really incorporated so thats illegal :) you cant put an inc or ltd unless you are at that legal status....

Originally posted by ^Kyo
This domain name leaked out from the horses mouth itself (chris)
to one of his clients who happens to be a friend he told me.

the WHOIS:

Registrant:
Swifty Host
SwiftyHost, Inc.
3765 sperone ct
Canfield, Ohio 44406
United States

Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SWIFTYHOST.COM
Created on: 16-Jan-02
Expires on: 16-Jan-03
Last Updated on: 16-Jan-02

Administrative Contact:
Host, Swifty admin@swiftyhost.com
SwiftyHost, Inc.
3765 sperone court
canfield, Ohio 44406
United States
1-888-866-7331
Technical Contact:
Host, Swifty support@swiftyhost.com
SwiftyHost, Inc.
3765 sperone court
canfield, Ohio 44406
United States
1-888-866-7331

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK1.GODADDY.COM
PARK2.GODADDY.COM


That is chrises home address. also notice, Swifty Host Inc., he's not really incorporated so thats illegal :) you cant put an inc or ltd unless you are at that legal status....

Can't keep anything a secret these days huh? :D

I wish he'd just give up.

Chris give up webhosting? Well... I... never ;)
It's not likely he will, as long as there are people to con, mister gentile will always try to act like a huge bigshot/executive to make the sale then run off with the money never to been seen or heard from again.

Another case where the law isn't caught upto the internet ehh?

He only lives a few hours from me, maybe I'll pay him a nice (or not-so nice) visit sometime :P.

Originally posted by XDude
Another case where the law isn't caught upto the internet ehh?

He only lives a few hours from me, maybe I'll pay him a nice (or not-so nice) visit sometime :P.

Oh please do, and record it on video if u can ;)

Hello,

This was brought to my attention, and I feel I should comment. My name is Steve Porter, and I am the business manager @ SwiftyHost. Chris is a member of our executive staff, and yes, I have read some of the things said about him. Regardless, I believe we are not being given an equal opurtunity to conduct business. How can you possibly judge the quality of our company, when we havent even began to conduct business? I can assure you that SwiftyHost will be properly managed, and clients will be treated with 110% care. I have dedicated months of my time into this project, and I ask you not judge my company by one individuals actions in the past, whether they be true or false. If I build up any concern about the above mentioned employee I will not hesitate to take proper action. If you have any personal concerns please e-mail me at SwiftyHst@aol.com.

Thanks,

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

Then you should change your whois :)
You'll probably loose 90% of your sales considering your whois points to chris'es address and considering the number of people he's err conned, that possibly cannot be good for your business :D

Just my 0.02

- Asher.

Kyo
I revied the whois information, and will add the correct information in later.

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

Chris is starting another business well see this is his 3rd. Maybe he wanted a partner to make sure he wasn't called a fraud.

Excuse me, but this is MY business. Dont compare my business to any of Chris'. I said earlier if I have any problems with him, I will take the apropriate action. I hired him because he fit my criteria, Now please, stop attacking my future business, and let me enter in to this business with an equal oppurtunity to do well. I ask that you let this be the end of this conversation about SwiftyHost.

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

I'm Sorry about that Sir :).

edit

The IP's between technohosts and swiftyhosts look VERY fishy to me and that's all I'm going to say.

Can you post them Teck?

If Swifty is who he says he is, then he should have nothing to hide...

I won't post them but they both IP's are identical to the number. It leads me to believe that they're both the same person.

I can't find anything that was ever said positive about this Chris guy or Techno Host. Even though this looks like a ghetto hosting operation, I would beware. Too bad Chris the damage is done. Too many people and too many stories.

This is ridiculous. Honestly,
Firstly, When I posted the last 2 or 3 messages I was on the same data line that chris works off of. And for future reference I will be using ips on this block for internet access. Would it seem weird to you that if webhostingtalk worked out of an office, and chicken logged in using ip 209.01.02.03 and teck logged in using 209.01.02.03? Instead of throwing charges at me, it'd be nice if you would have privately asked me, and I would have explained that. And also, it was my understanding that this forum was "blatant fraud by chris gentile/technohosts" NOT "blatant fraud by steve porter/swiftyhost"

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

EDIT
It amazes me how.. even though SwiftyHost wont be open for another 10 days, other people/hosts our attacking the quality of our company. I invite anyone to signup, or take up a free reseller account we will be offering to webhostingtalk.com visitors, on opening day. Then, a month later, judge us

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

:angry:

Cant someone report him or his company to the BBB? The state which he lives in can investigate him for fraud. If I were in this position I would seriously consider filing a claim against him in small claims. Get an attorney and if you dont get your money back at least it will be a major pain for him. There has to be a way to hurt people who lie and cheat. Is the site www.technohosts.com? :dgrin:

Originally posted by SwiftyHost
This is ridiculous. Honestly,
Firstly, When I posted the last 2 or 3 messages I was on the same data line that chris works off of. And for future reference I will be using ips on this block for internet access.


So first you employ Chris Gentille, then use the same ISP / account that he used when running technohosts?

Suspicious...

Steve (or is it Mike?), with due respect, people have a hard time swallowing that you are the business manager at a host, the domain of which was registered by Chris, and had his info (now it has been removed and blanked out).

If you ran a day care center and hired a convicted child molester, you don't think people would be a bit aprehensive at droppin' off little Suzie? You've read the things people have claimed yet are shocked that people are judging the quality of the company?

"If I build up any concern about the above mentioned employee I will not hesitate to take proper action."

I'd be concerned already, but that's just me.


I'm not here to bash you, or let others bash you, but I do think it is fair if people ask reasonable questions, and it seems fair that you should have the opportunity to answer those questions.

When a new host comes, it is expected that people *will* ask questions.

Sorry Chicken. ;-)

What is Suspicious is the information stated above and the fact that SwiftyHost guy has very few posts. Could this be Chris trying to save his butt and lie about starting a new company....interesting.

The whois information kinda gave it away. I would have an attorney visit his house with a supena for a deposition or talk to an attorney about pressing this matter further. I am not sure if it would be worth it money wise but it wouldnt hurt to try. This kinda makes me mad to hear that people are scamming in the webhosting industry. Kinda hurts all the good hosts out there by giving them a black eye. :uzi: Technohosts / Chris Gentile

That they are one and the same.

But, even if they aren't, you are judged by the people you associate with and/or employee. So, any attempt to say the criticism is unfair is in my opinion not justified. Do you think a major company is going to hire Kenneth Lay (CEO of Enron) today. No way. Guilt by association is real.

Ok Chris I have been nice this whole time but now you have gone to far even for you. You have said many things to me which I know is a lye one being you went to MIT for college when i contacted the admissions office and you never went. Anyways wehn i was reading the posts of SwiftyHost.com I know right away that that was you and when I scrolled down teck proved me right. And I know Teck isnt lying becaus I personally know for a fact that WHT has a remarkable tracking system(right Chicken)
Anyways Chris I think you are done and that many people may be taking legal actiona gainst you because how much you lye.

Kyle Wuokko
CEO Vibe Host.com

My question to SwiftyHost is this:

You say "I hired him because he fit my criteria," --- Well did you consider the criteria of character? Do you want a sleez working for your company? Did you ask chris about the negitive impact his reputation has had upon your company already?

Also with so little posts how did you SwiftyHosts find out out this specific thread on WHT? Was it brought to your attention or are you actally the conversation piece?

My2 cents. Late

PHPjames no one would hire him thats the whole point. That is another thing that completely gave it away. All the owner of a company would do is look at past refences and they would be just plain terrible so of course no person in their mind would hire him! PS chris told me a few days ago he was leaving hosting and just focusing on stock.............anoother lye of many........

Kyle Wuokko
CEO of Vibe Host.com

Ya Clearly established now is that SwiftyHost = Chris Gentile

Also what stuck me as a little funny is why would SwiftyHost who says it is his company have Chris Gentile register the domain name for him. This makes no sense and is clearly a lie.

How does this guy get away with ripping off sooo many people?

Thats how life flows but also if you look at page 3 the guy clearly states he is only a business manager and Chris is an excutive and then the next 2 posts he makes he is all of a sudden the owner hahahaha

Kyle Wuokko
CEO of Vibe Host.com

Originally posted by phpjames
:angry:

Cant someone report him or his company to the BBB? The state which he lives in can investigate him for fraud. If I were in this position I would seriously consider filing a claim against him in small claims. Get an attorney and if you dont get your money back at least it will be a major pain for him. There has to be a way to hurt people who lie and cheat. Is the site www.technohosts.com? :dgrin:


I told you people in my last post what to do to get this guy.
I deal with the law eveyday.
The Federal level has the laws in place,States do not!
BBB, cannot help much with normal problems. They are mainly record keepers.
I am in court myself at least 3 times a week................
No I am not a bad guy....

I really dont think you people are being fair here. I hired this person because he was qualified for the marketing position. Now, people I dont even know are saying Im Chris Gentile! I have nothing to do with his past ventures, and its my job to keep things in line. I said earlier, if their was any problem with him I would take apropriate action. Now please give this a bit of a rest. And for those of you who are making these conspiracies claiming me to be chris gentile, I'd like to officially declare that to be false. In fact, if you dont believe me so much, I might even consider posting my drivers license as proof. I will think on it.

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

Answer these five questions:
1. Why is Chris Gentile the owner of SwiftyHost as it stated in the WHOIS?
2. How did you become aware of this posting?
3. Why are your IP's the same?
4. Why did your title/position change?
5. Why are your total posts so low?

I too can scan my best friends drivers lisence and pretend im him. Also they aint that hard to make. Clearly SwiftyHost is Chris trying to stop the bleeding because he is a serious fraud.

Anyone reading this lets talk about it at hosthideout.com

Kyle Wuokko
CEO of vibe Host.com

Phpjames I will glady address your questions
1. He isnt the owner of the domain and never was. He registered it for me, and we never changed the info.
2. Chris IMed me
3. I explained this earlier.
4. My position didnt change I manage the business, and own it. Chris Gentile is in control of marketing.
5.I signed up recently for these forums. Maybe two weeks ago or so. Most of my posts were made today.

If you have any other questions IM or email me at SwiftyHst@aol.com

Steve Porter
SwiftyHost Management

I must say, from a complete outsiders point of view, it doesn't matter one bit whether Mr SwiftyHost==Chris Gentile. Any hosting shop that would even hire this guy to sweep floors clearly is not a place you want to do business with.

Originally posted by SwiftyHost
Phpjames I will glady address your questions
How did you become aware of this thread
2. Chris IMed me


Why would Chris draw your attention to this thread? Wouldn't it be kinda stupid to direct his new boss to this thread?

they are the same people. Get this, I was just talking to him and he kept saying, "Im about to head home" so I called him at home while he was talkign to me and guess who answered! seem chris runs this shindig inbetween school and homework.

He's your head of marketing? I'm sure he'll get some "free" advertising for you, if you know what I mean.

I would have thought you'd hire him as your CRO, Cheif Rip Off Artist.

LOL Yeah :)...

If Chris came to me advertising ANYTHING, I wouldn't get it simply because HE supports it.

Point number 3 is suspicious. You didn't explain it properly, and this is what makes us think you are Chris.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Point number 3 is suspicious. You didn't explain it properly, and this is what makes us think you are Chris.


He explained that they were on the same line. A very fair answer IMO.

Does anybody want this thread to go on? I think the point has been proven without a doubt.

agreed.