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View Full Version : [JSP] Question regarding resources
hypernatic.net 01-11-2002, 09:54 PM Hi
I am thinking of installing JSP / Tomcat on a Raq4 (256MB ram)
Now, I heard that JSP takes up a lot of resources... I have never used JSP / Tomcat before and do not know an aweful lot about it...
Now, what do you suggest? Would PHP indeed add something to the value of my packages? Would YOU consider doing it (in other words, will it not kill your servers)...
Any feedback is more then welcome :)
Jedito 01-11-2002, 09:58 PM I do not recommend to run tomcat with only 256 MB RAM, we have near 20 using tomcat in a dual P III with 1.5 GB RAM, and I must say that it really use recourses when the site comes popular.
hypernatic.net 01-11-2002, 09:59 PM What exactly is the difference between Tomcat and JSP?
Jedito 01-11-2002, 10:02 PM JSP= Java server page
Tomcat is the engine :)
hypernatic.net 01-11-2002, 10:03 PM Ah :) heheh
But what you could do is enable JSP on request,
and when it is abused (to much system resources) contact the client... get what i mean?...
what do you think about that?
ckpeter 01-11-2002, 11:06 PM hypernatic.net,
kind of off-topic but, you are registered in Jan 2002, how did you get 552 posts in less than a month?
Peter
The Prohacker 01-11-2002, 11:48 PM Originally posted by ckpeter
hypernatic.net,
kind of off-topic but, you are registered in Jan 2002, how did you get 552 posts in less than a month?
Peter
Very true:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=214832
Only returns 15 posts.....
I think Matt needs to update the counters here....
hypernatic.net 01-11-2002, 11:49 PM This is due to an account transfer...
Please lets get back to the topic...
ckpeter 01-12-2002, 12:02 AM JSP/Java has a high initial overhead, but than as you scale, it becomes faster and eventually outperform CGI/PHP.
I think you need to consider whether you will have enough people using this. Also, the RAQ4 has a slower processor, which could be a concern assuming that RAM is enough.
You mentioned something about PHP, was that a mistype or did you mean Java?
Peter
Jedito 01-12-2002, 12:30 AM Originally posted by hypernatic.net
Ah :) heheh
But what you could do is enable JSP on request,
and when it is abused (to much system resources) contact the client... get what i mean?...
what do you think about that?
Well.. still 256 it's a low amount of memory to run a normal web server, if you add to that jsp, you'll out of memory all the time.
priyadi 01-12-2002, 04:32 AM Originally posted by hypernatic.net
Hi
I am thinking of installing JSP / Tomcat on a Raq4 (256MB ram)
Now, I heard that JSP takes up a lot of resources... I have never used JSP / Tomcat before and do not know an aweful lot about it...
Now, what do you suggest? Would PHP indeed add something to the value of my packages? Would YOU consider doing it (in other words, will it not kill your servers)...
Any feedback is more then welcome :)
I suggest that you offer JSP per request basis and possibly charge more for that. It is also a good idea to run JSP/servlet as the user using it, with a single JVM for each user that need it. Then, you can enforce resource limit per user so that it won't use too much resources.
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