Need a good domain?

HostingTech.org

IntegrityHost.org

PingZine.org

these excellent domains names can be yours and if your interested in being the new owner of them simply contact me and make a offer via PM or E-mail.

Buyer beware:

iNET has filed for a trademark on HostingTech -- you may buy it but I wouldn't advise such!

I think people/companies who go out and buy names like this are about as low as scum... but hey, thats just my opinion.

What was the sense of registering these?

same here. Pingzine is a registered trade name and trade mark and though they can have fun owning the domain name, using it would be an ugly mess.

That person emailed me wanting to sell the domain to me. It's a shame when you almost feel like you need to register every extension of a domain just to keep people like this from trying something.

As a domain buyer myself I would never stoop that low to do these types of tricks.

Originally posted by Ryan Elledge

I think people/companies who go out and buy names like this are about as low as scum... but hey, thats just my opinion.

:rofl: I love you :love:

Originally posted by iBiz
That person emailed me wanting to sell the domain to me. It's a shame when you almost feel like you need to register every extension of a domain just to keep people like this from trying something.

They e-mailed us, too, and have even called now. After the first e-mail, I just responded to see how much they were trying to scam us for. Their e-mails follow:

Here is their first e-mail to us:

Via E-Mail
To Whom It May Concern,

Our proprietary domain grabbing system recently registered HOSTINGTECH.ORG.

We realize this domain is a alternative tld (Top-Level Domain) to domains you already possess and we would like to make available to opportunity for you to purchase this domain from us.

If you are interested in acquiring the domain in question from us please let us know within 15 days or the domain will be available for sale to the general public.

Sincerely,
DN Valet Services


Here was their reply to me after I expressed "interest":



$50.00 was the appraised value of course appraisals are not yet by any means code to any standard at this time in the industry. Although we are very much aware of the domains potential value to your company.

Whenever we catch domains in which all other alternative TLD's are registered to another company we like to make the domain available at a reasonable price before making it available to the public for sale.

Sincerely,
DN Valet Services


Funny stuff.

edit: Little did I know the squatter was a WHT member!

There is also a registered trademark on integrityhost.

Originally posted by integrityhost
There is also a registered trademark on integrityhost.

So PingZine, HostingTech, and IntegrityHost all have trademarks (HostingTech is newly filed so its pending). As such, I ammend my first post to caution people from buying ANY of the three domain names being squatted in this thread.

I do not ammend my scum comment... it remains the same.

I got the same first email, I didn't respond but looks like you got a nice canned answer.

Can't you smell the love in this thread :D, go you big boys!

Edit: Ouch, thats gotta hurt :rolleyes:

Our proprietary domain grabbing system recently registered HOSTINGTECH.ORG


This is obviously a lie, they're only doing it to try to make a quick buck. Otherwise don't you think they would have registered their OWN domain's TLD's? I just checked Godaddy and NATIONHOSTS.ORG is available. Maybe I should register it and see if they want to buy it for $50.

Originally posted by integrityhost
This is obviously a lie, they're only doing it to try to make a quick buck. Otherwise don't you think they would have registered their OWN domain's TLD's? I just checked Godaddy and NATIONHOSTS.ORG is available. Maybe I should register it and see if they want to buy it for $50.

I'd either propose a trade for the domain name or else sell it to them for $100.

Domain: Five bucks
Trademark: Thousand bucks
This Thread: PRICELESS

too late, I already did :) anyone want to buy it?

jk

:popcorn:

And just to think, I almost didn't look down here today.

Originally posted by acts837
:popcorn:

And just to think, I almost didn't look down here today.

Don't you wish you never now, with all the big boys fighting :bawling:

Originally posted by Ryan Elledge
Buyer beware:

iNET has filed for a trademark on HostingTech -- you may buy it but I wouldn't advise such!

I think people/companies who go out and buy names like this are about as low as scum... but hey, thats just my opinion.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously! We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

Originally posted by NH-Benjamin
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously! We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

This will not end well.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules

"Any posts that encourage illegal intent will be removed and the account disabled"

Originally posted by jheslop1
This will not end well.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules

"Any posts that encourage illegal intent will be removed and the account disabled"

 

Unfortunately,

according to The United States Patent and Trademark office there are no existing trademarks like claimed by the parties nor pending applications. I might also note that domain catching is hardly illegal.

http://www.uspto.gov

Edit: Integrityhost is the only party with a trademark and they can certainly have the domain transferred to them for free.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=ben209.2.1

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4kl1oi.4.1
hrm whats that?

EDIT: Dam you! my slow fingers couldnt keep up;)

Then I would be more than glad to transfer the domain to that party for free.

But surley according to the wht rules your account should be suspended?

Originally posted by NH-Benjamin
 

Unfortunately,

according to The United States Patent and Trademark office there are no existing trademarks like claimed by the parties nor pending applications.

http://www.uspto.gov

1.) Typo squatting is against ICANN policies, if I'm not mistaken.

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously! We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

2.) My intention is not to be rude, unpleasant, or disruptive. My intention is to draw attention to a big problem on the Internet, which the activity you are participating in is one. Go ahead and report me again if you wish, but seeing as though you are attempting to extort money from the owners of this board and other members of this site, I don't think you'll get much satisfaction.

Now, I will let the issue die once you transfer each of the respective domain names to their rightful owners at the same price at which they could have registered their domain name for. As iNET utilizes GoDaddy for our registrations, we will transfer to you $8.95 for HostingTech.org.

Originally posted by NH-Benjamin

Edit: Integrityhost is the only party with a trademark and they can certainly have the domain transferred to them for free.


We'll let you take that up with our attorneys who handle all of our trademark issues.

This may sound harsh, but oh well;

Ryan, I hope your representatives take them to the cleaners. Cyber squatters are low-lives, solely intent on what can only be tagged as indirect blackmail.

We went through the same thing last year - I wouldn't wish it on anyone.


Simon

Originally posted by NH-Benjamin
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously! We do not tolerate any rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

Ryan isn't going to be banned from WHT since he's the CEO of INet Interactive which owns HostingTech as well as Webhostingtalk ;-)

Originally posted by IHSL
This may sound harsh, but oh well;

Ryan, I hope your representatives take them to the cleaners. Cyber squatters are low-lives, solely intent on what can only be tagged as indirect blackmail.

We went through the same thing last year - I wouldn't wish it on anyone.


Simon

:rofl:

*registers diyhosting.us* (I'm joking, don't take that serious.)

Originally posted by vibesolutions
Ryan isn't going to be banned from WHT since he's the CEO of INet Interactive which owns HostingTech as well as Webhostingtalk ;-)

You never know, he may ban himself because he been a naugty boy :rofl: :D (well you never know :D)

I would like to note that we have had a business relationship with PingZine in the past and we were able to contact Keith at PingZine and resolve the issue and we look forward to a continued relationship with PingZine.

IntegrityHost - If you could e-mail domains@nationhosts.com we would be glad to resolve this with you as well.

I would like to give praise to PingZine and IntegrityHost for showing stellar professionalism in this post.

Thanks for settling it Benjamin. I look forward to working with NationsHost again and answering any questions you may have.

And I would like to give praise to DN Vallet for showing stellar professionalism in their business practices and this voicemail:

Voice Mail


Edit: Link to voicemail removed

Originally posted by Ryan Elledge
And I would like to give praise to DN Vallet for showing stellar professionalism in their business practices and this voicemail:

Voice Mail
As I said before, blackmail.

The recurring statement of "public sale" doesn't bode well.

Simon

Edit: Removed link to voicemail

Originally posted by Ryan Elledge
And I would like to give praise to DN Vallet for showing stellar professionalism in their business practices and this voicemail:

Voice Mail

:rofl: :rofl: That cracked me up :D

Mod Edit: Looks like Ryan forgot to edit a link out. :)

Wow. What can I say...

That's pretty low. Even if a trademark didn't exist, Ryan can still sue for ownership of the domain and provide evidence that Hosting Tech is an existing company/division and that your registering of the domain is considered cyber squatting (the voicemail says it all).

It's really nothing new. We deal with these sorts of things all the time. Take example the following sites:

http://infoua.net/

http://www.temple.edu/msa/

http://www.rensoft.com/us/

Notice anything about them? If you haven't before, look at:

http://www.HotScripts.com

Now you see anything?

Infoua.net didn't even bother to rename the images.

As a sidenote, temple.edu/msa has eagerly agreed to redesign their site to avoid breaking our copyright on HotScripts.com. Thanks to them publicly for doing so.

Infoua.net and their hosting provider are now communicating with our attorneys.

As a matter of principal, we would rather spend legal fees dealing with these issues than, say, paying $50 for a domain name. Until people who steal learn, they will keep doing it. Of course, much like the war on terror, it's pretty much a no-win battle.

Originally posted by TradeViceroy
Wow. What can I say...

That's pretty low.
Indeed it is. Regardless of the technical aspects of the law, the intentions here were clearly improper.

EDIT: I have moderated myself and removed part of my comment. :)

Originally posted by Ryan Elledge
And I would like to give praise to DN Vallet for showing stellar professionalism in their business practices and this voicemail:

Voice Mail

Hey Ryan,

I have tried to contact you to transfer the domain to you although you have been unavailable.

Mod edit: Removed link to voicemail, since Ryan forgot this one, as well.

Originally posted by NH-Benjamin
Hey Ryan,

I have tried to contact you to transfer the domain to you although you have been unavailable.

Ben,

I received your voicemail, but never received the emails you referenced. So I replied to an older email asking you to resend but received nothing as of yet.

UPDATE:

Spoke with Ben on the phone, and the HostingTech.org issue is resolved. His company has deleted the registration of the domain name, and as such it will be available for registration by us or any other person in about 30-45 days once it drops.

Thank you to Ben for not profiting from a domain TLD for one of our sites.

Originally posted by Ryan Elledge
UPDATE:

Spoke with Ben on the phone, and the HostingTech.org issue is resolved. His company has deleted the registration of the domain name, and as such it will be available for registration by us or any other person in about 30-45 days once it drops.

Thank you to Ben for not profiting from a domain TLD for one of our sites.

Thank you Ryan for taking the time to call and resolve the issue we look forward to continued ad campaigns with iNet and usage of it's communities.

I was glad that us deleting the domain from the registry was satisfactory for resolution of the matter.

Comment time :)

Personally, I don't see a problem with him having these domains....

But, I mean.. what's so bad about it? People take advantage of other companies all the time.

Personally, if someone were to steal my work for personal use I would be happy; that someone took the time to like my work, and use it.

However, if they took it and then tried to sell it - I would have a problem.

All he did was register domains.... and then you bickered about not having them.

But, if this is such an issue than all the other domains (such as .tv, .cc) could be wreckless abandonment.

Now that you got him to delete these domains and lose money, go get all the other domains.

This is just how I feel, so please don't boot my *** for it.

Ryan started it :D :stickout:

Well honestly I think this was totally unfair to NH-Ben here.

I mean, for example if I owned Host.com and someone went out to buy host.com.tw - I would not freak out at them. I did not buy it, and did not make plans to buy it... so that is my loss.

That is like buying a car, and then freaking out cause someone else bought a car like it.

Originally posted by nybble
Well honestly I think this was totally unfair to NH-Ben here.

I mean, for example if I owned Host.com and someone went out to buy host.com.tw - I would not freak out at them. I did not buy it, and did not make plans to buy it... so that is my loss.

That is like buying a car, and then freaking out cause someone else bought a car like it.

 

Lets just drop it..... It doesnt matter how you feel or I feel everyone has there opinion and I am just mostly happy I was able to resolve the issue and a few bucks down the drain isnt such a big deal. Although I appreciate your input and I think some of the parties could have handled it differently but.... we all make mistakes.

Ok, I will drop it.

However, this whole thing is screwed up....

Would you make someone give them their car just because it looks like yours, but has diffrent color seats?


All he was doing was selling domains, not setting up sites which are a copy of yours.... or anything like that!

So now, since these domains were so important why don't you go buy the rest.... since they mean so much to you that you registered them.

^ This is just feedback, warn me before you ban me if you would :(

Okay, I think the purpose of this thread has been fulfilled. If any of you wish to continue this discussion regarding the legality of situations like this, then please open a thread in the appropriate forum. Thanks.