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CaiMan
08-31-2004, 08:57 AM
I may still survive in the hosting biz if I can find a server provider real quick. I went to ANz because of thier prices and those cool deals "buy one/get one free".

I guess it would take time if I ever see my money again, but now my problem got aggravated. My customers are in the limbo and I need to get a server right away or I'll be dead too.

I really would like your suggestions about an affordable and reliable server. I need something quick. Any suggestion whether it is a server, or reseller hosting will be appreciated.

I need something to get back in biz, please help!

jerry12304
08-31-2004, 09:02 AM
Hey here is the company i like, they seem to have a good rep here at WHT..http://www.liquidweb.com

2nd choice : http://servermatrix.com
3rd choice : http://dedicatednow.com

Good luck :)

Mitu
08-31-2004, 09:41 AM
As always, I'd highly recommend LayeredTech (http://www.layeredtech.com/). :) However I believe their servers are self-managed only, although they do support the very basics. :) They're very affordable, responsive, and reliable.

Of course, if you really are in a rush to get things moving again, and a're looking for very very speedy setup, then 15minuteservers.com may be for you. :) I've no experience with them myself, though.

barry[CoffeeSprout]
08-31-2004, 09:43 AM
Doesn't Ev1 have instant set up?
Get your customers up somewhere ASAP and then sort out your future when they are up.

Good luck man..

rghf
08-31-2004, 09:43 AM
Good nod to 15minute servers over here but the don't do C-Panel. Otherwise Liquidweb but you will pay a bit more

Rus

thefast
08-31-2004, 09:52 AM
jvds.com
burst.net
liquidweb.com

JHServers
08-31-2004, 10:06 AM
I just bought a server from ev1servers last night. The IP is given to you right at the end of signing up and within minutes the password is changed to the one you chose. 15minuteservers can work too, but you probably need a control panel and it usually takes them about an hour to do it with control panel. Either one can work.

emalbum
08-31-2004, 10:10 AM
I also am/was a AN customer...I just ordered a server from ServerMatrix. Hopefully I won't have to switch again anytime soon!

BlikWerk
08-31-2004, 10:15 AM
Another vote for Liquid Web. They had us set up in hours and really helped us out of this bind.

CaiMan
08-31-2004, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by emalbum
I also am/was a AN customer...I just ordered a server from ServerMatrix. Hopefully I won't have to switch again anytime soon!

Could you post the specs of the server you got? quote for the one I may be interested including Cpanel, and managed services went up to over 200 dollars!

hostbox
08-31-2004, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Golthar
Doesn't Ev1 have instant set up?
Get your customers up somewhere ASAP and then sort out your future when they are up.

Good luck man..

Yep :)

wheimeng
08-31-2004, 11:23 AM
Well, I believe you have financial constrain here. I think layeredtech would be the best for you ;) They serve us great.

IGobyTerry
08-31-2004, 11:33 AM
I'd recommend looking at Servint. If you tell them you're in a bind they'll be able to get you up and running real quick.

emalbum
08-31-2004, 11:42 AM
Francisco -

This is the special for the server I ordered:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=315297

SuperServer 3.2
Intel Pentium 4, 3.2Ghz HT Processor (800FSB)
1024MB RAM
1 x 80GB Hard Drive (2 x 40GB Hard Drives are also available)
1200GB of Bandwidth
100Mbps Port Speed
Redhat, Windows or FreeBSD
5 IP's

hostbox
08-31-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by emalbum
Francisco -

This is the special for the server I ordered:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=315297

SuperServer 3.2
Intel Pentium 4, 3.2Ghz HT Processor (800FSB)
1024MB RAM
1 x 80GB Hard Drive (2 x 40GB Hard Drives are also available)
1200GB of Bandwidth
100Mbps Port Speed
Redhat, Windows or FreeBSD
5 IP's

Nice server you have there, mine is still down.... but a recovery server is already online, I just need the data :bawling:

emalbum
08-31-2004, 12:41 PM
Luckily I have been rsync'ing my data nightly...I was preparing for something like this to happen...

CyberSpring
08-31-2004, 02:39 PM
Why go with budget server farms? Go with a solid company like steadfast networks

ExtremeIS
09-03-2004, 09:56 PM
I recommend tailormadeservers if you want a good server for a reasonable price with very consistent and reliable support. I've worked with Jose from there for almost 2 years now and he's always provided stellar systems and support in my opinion.

ev1servers.net is also pretty decent for a budget provider, network uptime was impeccable, support was hit and miss but it is an unmanaged solution so that's based on a limited amount of contacts.

CaiMan
09-03-2004, 10:33 PM
which would be better, a colo or a dedicated? I do not want to be screwed again, if I go colo and something like this happens again, at least I can go a pull "my server" out and take it somewhere else!

hostbox
09-03-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by CaiMan
which would be better, a colo or a dedicated? I do not want to be screwed again, if I go colo and something like this happens again, at least I can go a pull "my server" out and take it somewhere else!

Dedicated with Backups off site :stickout:

Project X
09-03-2004, 11:08 PM
www.dinix.com

softstor
09-11-2004, 09:07 PM
I highly recommend Liquidweb. I had a server with angel with nothing but problems. I switched to Liquidweb and never had any down time or problems. Liquidweb doesn't have a support forum like angel did, but they do offer telephone and ticket support that is probably the best in the industry.

beaco
09-13-2004, 02:42 AM
I used to have an angel server. I kept the server and am now with managed.

Would you be interested in taking a portion of the server. We have no large sites and very low server load.

Depending on the type of thing you are after this might suit us both as the cost of going with managed is a bit much for us at the moment.

blacksmith
09-13-2004, 02:51 AM
beaco

Are you shure you are on the right forum?

You can try making some kind of offer on shared/reseller offers forum....

KNL-BSW
09-13-2004, 04:06 AM
I can't believe a single person didn't recommend GNAX/Tranxactglobal. :(

They are an excellent company with really good support, uptime, and hardware. :)

barry[CoffeeSprout]
09-13-2004, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by ddihosting
I can't believe a single person didn't recommend GNAX/Tranxactglobal. :(

They are an excellent company with really good support, uptime, and hardware. :)

From what I heard they are great and I'd recommend them alongside ServerMatrix.
However, the topic starter was in a bind and needed a server ASAP.
Hence a recommendation for Ev1 and their instant setup

KNL-BSW
09-13-2004, 12:43 PM
With GNAX if you are in a bind you let them know. Unlike some other companies, they actually care and will do what they can to help. :)

incript_services
09-13-2004, 03:31 PM
well i think if price is not the problem then go with Liquidweb.com or Theplanet.

If you are looking for budget servers opt for beachcomber.net servers.

mcraft
09-14-2004, 05:29 AM
I ordered a server from www.vrtservers.net, Saturday night, the server is ready by Tueday morning, SG time.

The fastest delivery so far in my encounter with any dedi provider. I have ordered from EV1, managed and ANz (busted).

Excellent sales/support in these few days, just hope vrt stay this way in future.

CactusCounty
09-14-2004, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by mcraft
I ordered a server from www.vrtservers.net, Saturday night, the server is ready by Tueday morning, SG time.

The fastest delivery so far in my encounter with any dedi provider. I have ordered from EV1, managed and ANz (busted).

Excellent sales/support in these few days, just hope vrt stay this way in future. The fastest delivery I ever experienced was with 15minuteservers: 21 minutes with a control panel upgrade.

Not too shabby....

Bobby2732000
09-14-2004, 09:14 AM
I recommend sagonet.com I purchased a server there, and got prompt setup.

They have really good uptime.

dab100
09-14-2004, 09:34 AM
You could try resellerworkz not heard anything bad about them and some good reviews. They are running a special just now.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=320772

dotwhat
09-14-2004, 10:02 AM
Try Burst.net my machines have been running for 5 months no issues besides a small email issue which was solved immediatly. I have another at savvis which has given me more issues in 24 hours than any of my Burst servers.

thefast
09-14-2004, 11:02 AM
Anyone any latest news on Angelnetworkz ?
It' so quiet around them ?

twidnet
09-14-2004, 12:48 PM
The angelnetworkz site was down last night (may have been earlier than that, but I didn't check the day before) and is still down today. If I was still affected by the antics of AN, I'd set up somewhere else, tell my clients to reupload their files, and move on. People aren't going to get their money back, no matter how many times Donna or any of the "staff" say they have no intention of not refunding people.

CactusCounty
09-14-2004, 06:48 PM
The last couple of posts have been a bit off topic (and this one is as well) but it looks like the ANz site is still offline. Can this be the end? We can only hope.....

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

jacknoc
09-14-2004, 07:37 PM
angelnetworkz.net
ICANN Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Created: 2003-05-13
Expires: 2005-05-13
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

twidnet
09-14-2004, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by auctionSuite
The last couple of posts have been a bit off topic (and this one is as well) but it looks like the ANz site is still offline. Can this be the end? We can only hope.....

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Let's hope so.

Love your signature. :D

berlin
10-09-2004, 01:57 PM
wow under 20 minutes for liquidweb to respond to my questions. i'm accustomed to waiting for 3 - 4 hours which I think is reasonable for huge providers. 15 minutes is a bit too much to ask, but then again, we're an add/mcdonald society. i'm sure a few years from now. 15 minutes would be too slow and we want it in under 2 minutes.

xpserv.com
10-09-2004, 02:02 PM
try sagonet.com

pretty good deals,fast setup

z280 Hosting
10-09-2004, 08:03 PM
I reccomend sagonet.com , voxrox.com and gnax.net (in no particular order).

thefast
10-15-2004, 05:41 PM
This came from the AN :

"This is a touchy issue, I should have actually included this in the rules.

Fact is Jose told me one thing and told others something different. He's trying to cover his own ***, can't blame him for that. But the way he did things leaves a lot to be answered for.

There was only one bill "overdue" for a small amount of money, some other invoices were only a couple days old. And instead of even shutting down overdue servers he chose them at random (apparently they lack the ability to track each server and can only track the entire account).

But that meant that some people that did pay money to help sort things out ended up with no server 24 hours later even though they paid enough (and in some cases more) to keep their server online.

Didn't help that Jose told anyone that messaged him that he would pull the plug if they didn't switch to him. But like I said, this is between me and him. I've lots of things I could post but I don't intend to resolve my issues with TMS with the public. I'll deal with Jose myself. Fact is the amount owed was around $6600 most of which was only invoiced a couple days before the shutdown. At the time, during AIM convos with him he told me point blank the stuff posted at WHT made him nervous and he was acting in what he percieved to be his best interests based on what he'd read. I can't prove it as I lost all that stuff when my old machine died, I'll see what's on rachel's machine but probably nothing on there either.

Now after that happened one of the managed.com owners decided that based on what he also read on WHT combined with Jose shutting us down that he felt warrented in doing so as well (for the record we had an agreement in place to pay them weekly and were in the process of getting that set up when the shut down occurred). Steve tried to warn us that Jacques was doing it but I was at the doctors that day and got home to late to deal with it. I literally walked through the door just an hour before the servers went off.

Now all financial issues aside the thing that set everything else in motion was clients themselves. I sent out a private email (a few weeks before the shut downs), and asked that it be kept private. In it I explained what happened with the management clients and that we needed to suspend the BOGO and prepaid time and ask people to make monthly payments for a few months to clear the debts and get back on track before things became a major issue. At the time I worked out that if even half agreed to it we'd be fine.

Unfortunately I didn't count on some of those people not only being selfish but they actually took that private email and posted publicly outright accusing us of fraud right from the start.

My attempt to quietly resolve the issue then snowballed into acusations that we knew the shutdowns were coming and kept sales going anyways and were just keeping the money. This is not true. We didn't keep the money, all of it went into things for AN. Paypal records when/if made public will show that. But with the BOGO stuff obviously the expenses outweighed the actual profit. Wasn't a problem as I covered the shortfalls with management clients, when a staffer stole those that left us with a problem to sort out.

Instead of respecting my request to keep it private and not spark a panic some people did just that, they posted everywhere they could to cause as much of a fuss as they could. I probably could have headed things off a bit by posting at places like WHT to explain things but at the time I wasn't feeling in the best of health (still not) and I opted to work on fixing things instead of argueing on forums."


So basicly they didn't do anything wrong ... Josee from TMS was just saving his *** ... lol. What a BS story once again.

mcraft
10-15-2004, 09:57 PM
Whatever happen is not important anymore. Obviously ANz is very inexperience in this business.

What I learned from this episode:
- Stay away from dedicated-host reseller (unless with proven track record).
- Stay away from super cheap offers.

TMX
10-15-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by mcraft
Whatever happen is not important anymore. Obviously ANz is very inexperience in this business.

They're not inexperienced, they're thieves - not very smart ones, but thieves all the same. They no more intended to run an honest business than the pope intends to take up lap dancing. They lined their pockets by preying on the inexperienced and the naive, and continue to prey on the stupid.


What I learned from this episode:
- Stay away from dedicated-host reseller (unless with proven track record).
- Stay away from super cheap offers.

Amen.

-Bob