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View Full Version : Wondows Vs. Linux, Difference?


soontohost
01-10-2002, 02:32 PM
I know this is probably a stupid question, but in terms of service, can a windows box box do as much and run the same apps as a linux box? I have been a windows guy for years now, and new to linux, I am way more comfortable in windows. Now, fot my new hosting company I would love to run Win2000 but will it offer everything my customers need condidering linux is like the biggest web serving os out? Just looking for someinput on this..

priyadi
01-10-2002, 02:53 PM
In my opinion, overall, for this industry, Linux is better than Windows. Better stability, easier remote administration, better security, more software available, lots and lots of third party free scripts available for you and your users to use, and not to mention the price is free.

On the other hand, if you run a Linux hosting company but don't know much about Linux then you are asking for trouble. I suggest that you hire an administrator if you decide to run a Linux based shop.

soontohost
01-10-2002, 04:02 PM
Administration of linux is not a problem, my partner is "MR. LINUX" , however I would like to participate more in the server admin that is why I am inquiring about windows as a web server.

The Laughing Cow
01-10-2002, 08:16 PM
I have always been a Windows guy but I have to admit from my experience Linux has the stability and uptime Windows lacks.

21inchguns
01-10-2002, 08:59 PM
I am also a windows guy, but after using linux for a while, I really like it now......and it does get annoying after experiencing too many windows problems......just use linux and learn from your partner plus get a couple of books....wont take too long..

serve-you
01-10-2002, 09:35 PM
I would say linux for webhosting. IMO there is not a windows webserver that comes close to the stability of apache. The windows version, while better than it was in the past, still is no comparison. You would have to have a death wish to run IIS right now, considering that MS can't seem to keep ahead of the virii. iPlanet & websphere are both alright, but far too bulky for your basic webhosting needs.

Just about anything you would want to offer is availible in the linux platform. The only big loss(or plus depending on how you look at it) are the MS specific FrontPage extensions.

-Dan

priyadi
01-11-2002, 01:16 AM
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Just about anything you would want to offer is availible in the linux platform. The only big loss(or plus depending on how you look at it) are the MS specific FrontPage extensions.

-Dan [/B]

:confused: Frontpage extension has been available for Linux for some time now, since 98 I think.

serve-you
01-11-2002, 01:20 AM
The only big loss(or plus depending on how you look at it) are the MS specific FrontPage extensions.

There are a lot of features in FP that ONLY work in windoze.

-Dan

bobcares
01-11-2002, 01:50 AM
Wondows Vs. Linux, Difference?Wondows Vs. Linux, Difference?



Windoze - :disagree:
Linux - :agree:
...... period... :)

Actually, you must consider the target market first. If you planning to have newbies with a 5 page static html site then Linux is better. Also linux is cool if your clients want php,perl, c, java etc...... The list is long.

Now windows is good if the target market is programmers who want ASP, MS Sql, Coldfusion etc....

Many of these are available on Linux but windows is a better option here.

The crux of the matter is both are good. If you new to hosting servers then the learning curve is the same on both the platforms. Both are easy to learn... :)

My personal advice is use only Linux. It is really cool.... :)

Have a great day :)

regards
amar

allan
01-11-2002, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by serve-you

Just about anything you would want to offer is availible in the linux platform. The only big loss(or plus depending on how you look at it) are the MS specific FrontPage extensions.


Hmm...I can't find the article right now, but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that FrontPage's market share was on a serious decline. If that is the case, then not having full FP extension suport will be less of a problem in the future.

serve-you
01-11-2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by uuallan


Hmm...I can't find the article right now, but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that FrontPage's market share was on a serious decline. If that is the case, then not having full FP extension suport will be less of a problem in the future.

I don't really see it as a problem now :D

-Dan

GraphicRev
01-11-2002, 04:33 AM
yes linux free
windows for $800 cal on advanced server

priyadi
01-11-2002, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by serve-you


There are a lot of features in FP that ONLY work in windoze.

-Dan

What are they?

priyadi
01-11-2002, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by uuallan


Hmm...I can't find the article right now, but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that FrontPage's market share was on a serious decline. If that is the case, then not having full FP extension suport will be less of a problem in the future.

Yeah, we really like if it is possible to remove all FP extension from our servers. They consumed a LOT (really a LOT) of customer service resources. :(

serve-you
01-11-2002, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by priyadi


What are they?

Access DB's, VB, ActiveX, etc..

-Dan

VhatDaFruit
01-11-2002, 09:01 AM
loonix all the way, baby!:D

anantatman
01-13-2002, 05:35 AM
Having worked on many different projects regarding hosting environments, I've grown to like both of the operating systems.

Linux offer's a cheap free solution. Windows offers ASP, MS Sql Server, Access, etc..

The bottom line really isn't WHICH operating system is better, but WHAT the customer wants.

If the customer wants Windows, and you don't have it, you have very slim chance of getting that customer. The same applies the other way around.

Microsoft has done a very well job with ASP and has marketed it well to corporations. That's why many bigger firms use it, and this is why Windows can be good for you.

Linux on the other hand offers PHP + mySQL , which I think makes very good web application development platform. A lot of individuals and person/community sites are using it because it can be cheap for them to host.

As far as cost.. Windows is trying to compete with linux by offering Advanced server for free.. as long as you put their "powered by.. " logo on your website. MS SQL Server does cost some.. but you might as well get it, because you'll need some sort of Enterprise level database server once you get big.

:o

No matter which side you're on, or no side at all, you can say many bad and good things about both Operating Systems.

If you're serious, you have to take a look at what you're goal is.
For most it's about getting and keeping customers.

The Laughing Cow
01-13-2002, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by anantatman
Having worked on many different projects regarding hosting environments, I've grown to like both of the operating systems.

Linux offer's a cheap free solution. Windows offers ASP, MS Sql Server, Access, etc..

The bottom line really isn't WHICH operating system is better, but WHAT the customer wants.

If the customer wants Windows, and you don't have it, you have very slim chance of getting that customer. The same applies the other way around.

Microsoft has done a very well job with ASP and has marketed it well to corporations. That's why many bigger firms use it, and this is why Windows can be good for you.

Linux on the other hand offers PHP + mySQL , which I think makes very good web application development platform. A lot of individuals and person/community sites are using it because it can be cheap for them to host.

As far as cost.. Windows is trying to compete with linux by offering Advanced server for free.. as long as you put their "powered by.. " logo on your website. MS SQL Server does cost some.. but you might as well get it, because you'll need some sort of Enterprise level database server once you get big.

:o

No matter which side you're on, or no side at all, you can say many bad and good things about both Operating Systems.

If you're serious, you have to take a look at what you're goal is.
For most it's about getting and keeping customers.

I agree entirely.

I know ASP & Access because I had Visual Basic experience. The same works with PHP as I *believe* it follows a C syntax? You background generally tells where to go. IMO ASP on Linux is just unusable especially since doing anything good in ASP you need to use databases which I don't think Access can work on Linux.

Linux from my experience has MUCH better uptime and reliability. From a hosts point of view hosting off a Linux box I think is the best choice since with 2k you have more hassles.

soontohost
01-13-2002, 04:00 PM
anantatman> You say microsoft is offering free licenses for advanced server. I currently run advanced server but on only have a 5 client license. Do you have any referance material on where this offer can be found? Thanks. So the general feeling from everyone is to run both enviorments. Now my plan is to use Cobalt Raq 4r's for the linux side of things and custom built windows boxes, good idea? What about administrating the windows boxes, are there any control panels for windows? Never used remote admin, just maintained an intranet. Thank You all!!

The Laughing Cow
01-13-2002, 07:48 PM
I would suggest going for a Pure RH Linux box from Rackshack they seem to be good. They come with Ensim/Plesk and cost the same as the Raq (i think)?

For Windows you can ususally use Terminal Services to login to the box.

Control panels for windows are usually Hostingcontroller or Hsphere is becoming common.

They all have a lot of improvements to be made though.

With Windows concentrate more on it than Linux. You NEED top notch THE BEST hardware, BEST software and best provider.

I am yet to find a reliable windows host. Consequently we are going to be concentrating on Linux

priyadi
01-14-2002, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by soontohost
anantatman> You say microsoft is offering free licenses for advanced server. I currently run advanced server but on only have a 5 client license. Do you have any referance material on where this offer can be found? Thanks.

http://www.microsoft.com/serviceproviders/programs/wwhp.asp