Hey Everyone

What is better in a server enviroment for resellers to host individual sites which are not high demand?

Athlon Sempron 2500+

OR

Athlon XP 2400+

OR

Pentium 4 2.4ghz

They all have 512mb ram.

Thanks

Michael Anderson

Well personally to me I love AMD all the way for home use and will only do amd. However I do not fill there great for servers for that leave it to the intel chips. Some of the reason for this is amd can overheat when put under extreme loads.

Originally posted by nukehelpers
Well personally to me I love AMD all the way for home use and will only do amd. However I do not fill there great for servers for that leave it to the intel chips. Some of the reason for this is amd can overheat when put under extreme loads.

I agree, we moved all our 1U boxes to Pentium as they ran to hot.

Ok guys,

do any of you knows a running temperatur of AMD, if so what is it? and if you dont know, how can say that AMD is hoter then INTEL ?

Please guys do some homework before you say things like this.

I am not a AMD fan, or INTEL, I just like to get best for the buck regardless from who.

In this case, if you wana to choose INTEL over AMD, then you should know that INTEL is much hoter CPU then AMD under full load.

N.

A search on google would help you find what your asking . AMD is hotter and is a known fact. Keep it under 50 degrees if possable.

This may help you too;

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/cooling_guide.pdf

http://forums.devshed.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105

the .pdf is dated 04/03/00 ?

:rofl:

A search on google would help you find what your asking . AMD is hotter and is a known fact. Keep it under 50 degrees if possable.


Dude... The recent generation AMDs run cooler than their P4 counterparts.

quite a few factors to consider.

P4-2.4B, 58w, built-in temp trip, 133fsb x 4, 8k L1, 512K L2
Xp2400+, 68w, no temp trip, 133fsb x 2, 128K L1, 256K L2
Sempron 2500+~3100+, 62w, built-in temp trip, 166fsb x 2, 128K L1, 256K L2

generally speaking, you want to keep CPU temp under 70c max. with full load (or 55c registered in BIOS when CPU idle). with proper active HSF (mini blower on copper heatsink) in 1U, you don't really worry about P4-2.4B and any Sempron (2500~3100) will overheat at all. XP2400+ is a bit marginal in 1U, especially it has no internal temp trip, so an overheated XP can burn itself to death.

when developed, XP and Sempron may not be originally intented for server application, but they just happened to be perform rather admirabally as server CPU. due to their very short pipeline and large L1 (whopping 128K), they usally outrun low-end P4 on most server tasks.

front side bus on P4 platform is somewhat misleasing, don't read too much into it. the so-called 533mhz fsb on P4 really means motherboard running 133mhz or 166mhz, DDR modules running 266mhz or 333mhz, then CPU runing 133mhz x 4 (CPU internally quad pumped)

K7 Sempron 2400~2800 socket A is using the same XP thouroughbret B core (166fsb x 2, 128K L1, 256K L2, DDR333 support) but only yields 62w max. heat! which makes it a better suitable CPU than XP in 1U.

K8 Sempron 3100+ socket 754 is basically Opteron w/ 256K L2 only minus 64-bit, but it does have the same on-die memory controller and DDR-400 supports! and still just 62w heat output. I will say it's going to be an excellent CPU choice for high-performance budget server.

with all these been said, low-end Opteron UP (140/142/144) and single opteron server board (such as Tyan S2850) is getting cheap, anyone should really consider it if there are offers for dedicated servers.

Originally posted by rmMark1
A search on google would help you find what your asking . AMD is hotter and is a known fact. Keep it under 50 degrees if possable.

This may help you too;

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/cooling_guide.pdf

http://forums.devshed.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105
it's true that P4 northwood outputs less heat than XP. but P4 prescott (90nm, 1M L2) is entirely different matter. even a P4-2.4A (533fsb, 1M L2) prescott outputs a whopping 89watt, and some higher clocked prescott's are even up to 115watt of heat! it's just about impossible to cool it properly in 1U....

meanwhile, XP2400~2800 is 68w, Sempron 2400~3100 is just 62w. both are at least 20% cooler than any P4 prescott!

AMD's are not as hot as P4's anymore. Anyone who says it is are like the people who still say "Cogent is the worst provider there is". They are cooler. However, P4's are better in performance. I'd go with a P4 2.4 over a AMD 2500 however pricing can be a bit different. You would be able to put a little less accounts on the AMD than you could on the P4 2.4.

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