Hi!

We just like to let everyone know that we are now accepting design request for a logo. We will project and develop your corporate image and brand identity for an amazing price of only $20.

Kindly visit our website for more details.

Thank you very much.

:)

Do you have a portfolio?

People will want to see the level of your work.

For a glimpse of our capabilities, please see the logo design contest conducted by Asia in this forum too.

Actually we are still waiting for some clients who may want us to finalize their designs. Don't worry. You are assured of 30-day guarantee.

All portfolios would be uploaded soon. Some of WHT members have already received their logos from the promo conducted. We don't want to place the designs here. They will soon make their way into our gallery. That's a promise.

And thanks for the reminder.

:)

Hi!

Please take a look at hostresults.com. We made their logo.
All logos made will be placed in our gallery section soon.

:)

Hi!

Since we haven't put up the portfolio yet (we are still drawing up the text; kinda hard to write these days), we would like to share another sample. This one has a mascot in it so that you will also have an idea what kind of work we can do. ok?

Thanks.

:)

Is that ant a clipart you found, or did you drew it yourself? If you did, that is definately amazing and artisitic of you.

Hi!

Elusive, we're flattered! Thanks for the compliments.

Actually, it is hand-drawn.. pencil first, then ballpen... colored in photoshop... exported to corel draw... then optimized in image ready... (familiar process?). Same thing we did with the bear in our entry to Asia's logo design contest.

I guess we're just lucky to have talented artists in our design team.

:)

Edit: corrected spelling error.

Wow!!! That ant is most impressive!!! :D

if you make these graphics yourself.. how come the gfx on your site are so poor:

http://www.castlemelody.com/images/title.gif


and that ant reminds me alot of 'it's a bugs life' :)

I wanted to know if you could create a really nice (Marijuana) Leaf logo for an up and coming website (not yet launched) like WHT but about the medicinal uses, as well as other information about marijuana. We need a really nice logo, preferrably with a marijuan leaf. Would you be able to do this? Could you submit an example of the logo? Thanks

consul is working on a new logo for UnlimBand.com, once I receive it, anyone could use it as an example of their superb work. I cant wait to see it!

Jim

Dude, drop me an e-mail.

I have severall sites that need a cool logo with a bit of text.

adam@hosttoday.co.uk

I have to recommend Castle Melody to all you guys....actually, I was their client for the ant ;)

It was actually just a short a description of the mascot that I gave them, but they really surpassed my expectations. Aside from being great and above standard, their designs are also flexible and unique. :)

Jackor,

I can understand your sentiment about our designs. Thanks for the honest comments.

Well, the 'title.gif' was done by another artist (one year ago!) who has now perfected his craft. The current ones are done by our newly-acquired artist who is a top-notched one. He even has a one-man show scheduled in an art museum here for one month!
I hope that clarifies.

And hey, we will be changing that title.gif soon. We are just busy with our orders here. :) Thank you for reminding us about that dreaded title. Haha! We have known about the 'title.gif' from the start because we have our site reviewed here in WHT twice and it is noticed all the time. Even the Clickbank webmaster who reviewed our first Order Page when we activate our account with them noticed it too. BTW, thank you for those who have previously reviewed our site.

The ant is an original. It must have reminded you of the 'A Bug's Life' because it is as friendly as "Flick". :) Ok? Again, I would like to reiterate, we did not copy the ant nor have taken it from any clipart.

Don't worry. We don't have hard feelings here. It is even good that you pointed it out so that we have the chance to clarify. Thanks.

:)


Originally posted by jackor
if you make these graphics yourself.. how come the gfx on your site are so poor:

http://www.castlemelody.com/images/title.gif


and that ant reminds me alot of 'it's a bugs life' :)

--420Talk,

We will be happy to do a logo for you. And that is a noble cause... educating about the medicinal uses of Marijuana. Most people simply view it as a prohibited drug here in our country. The example logo will be part of the design process. Just order your logo from our site and everything will be in place. Here is a direct link:

http://www.castlemelody.com/sales/logo.html

Note to MODS: I have placed that link above since I have received recent inquiries about the design process we are taking and it is described in that page too.

Originally posted by 420Talk
I wanted to know if you could create a really nice (Marijuana) Leaf logo for an up and coming website (not yet launched) like WHT but about the medicinal uses, as well as other information about marijuana. We need a really nice logo, preferrably with a marijuan leaf. Would you be able to do this? Could you submit an example of the logo? Thanks


--HostRat,

An email has been sent.

Jim,

We are still working on a new one. I hope you understand how we are running after time. :) And we are happy that you like the first one. The second one will be even better.

A*Host,

Thanks for the praise. :)

tnabew,

Thanks for backing us up, man. BTW, we received your testimonial. Our thanks for giving us one. Good luck to your web design company (hehe, our competitor --- competitors can work together too? )

To the rest,

Our doors are open for you to hire us. You are always welcome.

:)

Dear all,

May we take the pleasure to announce that some of our logos are already uploaded.

We are still designing the rest of them and they will soon join their "brothers" in the portfolio page.

Please visit our gallery section.

Thanks.


:)

Hi,

Im very intrested in a you doing a couple of logo's for us.

Could you please contact me on Craig@Flump.net as soon as time permits you.

Thanks,

Regards

Craig

Craig,

Thanks for the trust in our designs. An email has been sent.

To all of you guys,

We are still open for business on the $20 logo. Our company has a plan to increase the price. But, I have told my staff to forego the price increase for a while since there are still interested individuals who want to avail of the promo. They agreed. So you still have your chance to order today!

The promo is meant to allow us to present what we can offer and to showcase the talents of our design artists. We are glad to note that most of you guys are giving us the opportunity to prove that we can deliver! Thank you very much for that confidence you have given.

:)

My order is in. I'm looking forward to seeing the results. :)

Thanks avara,

We received your order. We are waiting for your answers to our logo design guide questions which you are requested to answer after successful order.

To everyone,

Please don't forget to submit your answers to our logo design guide questions after you have ordered. Our design artists will need them as the starting point for the design.

Thank you.

:)

Edit: change a few for grammar.

consul, I contacted you via the form on your website, I hope you read that as often as you seem to read the forums. :)
We may have a few things for you to do.

Hey Wolfy,

Thanks. Of course we also monitor our form. We have replied to your form submission.

:)

Greetings!

We would like to take again this opportunity to thank everyone who have trusted our capabilities. We are glad to be of service.

Our staff has decided to end the promo on our $20 logo design by January 31, 2002, 12:00 Noon (+800 GMT). So if you have not yet ordered, we highly encourage you to grab this opportunity today. You will never know when it's too late :)

We will be ready to take your orders. Of course since this is a promo, we would like to ask a little favor. We hope that you can extend your patience. We are now flooded with logo design orders and we are queueing them on a first come first serve basis.

By January 31, 2002, we will temporarily stop getting logo design orders for a while. This should give our artists the needed break to catch up with "backlogs" if there are. We will then resume our logo design with the regular price (which we are yet to decide, we will announce the price later), once every order has been fulfilled.

Thank you very much for your kind attention.

:)

420Talk,

Hi!

We have sent you an email about this. Please check them or you me email us if you accidentally lost it. Ok?

Thanks.

Originally posted by 420Talk
I wanted to know if you could create a really nice (Marijuana) Leaf logo for an up and coming website (not yet launched) like WHT but about the medicinal uses, as well as other information about marijuana. We need a really nice logo, preferrably with a marijuan leaf. Would you be able to do this? Could you submit an example of the logo? Thanks

:)

I looked at your designs, but what are your normal prices? How can you make anything off of $20?

What would a complete corp ident cost $30?
Is your market the little guy or the bigger guy?

I charge $500 to $5000 for a complete logo and corp ident solution.
When little guys charge next to nothing for their work I just cant see how a client feels that they got any value from it.

example: to most people if i had a box in one hand and sid it was for sale for $1, and the same type box in the other and this time it's sale price was $10 most people would feel compelled to buy the $10 for a feeling that it is better because of percived value. This is not always true but in most cases.

I'm not saying that my work is better than yours because of the cost, just dont understand the idea of the low pricing?

Tranz,

Hi! Thanks for the comments.

Well, a promo for us is a promo! If you read our reasons for doing so you will notice that we want the guys who may have a low budget to get a logo they deserve. Also we want to make for ourselves a set of portfolios. It is like this: How can you prove if your design is worth it if you have nothing to show in the first place. Our solution: Instead of designing samples, we first run a free banner design and logo promo. Then at a later time we offered this $20 logo special promo. We also joined one of the logo design contest here (and luckily won - thanks for the $50 Asia!). So you see, we just want everyone to know our design capabilities. The best way for them to try our service is for us to offer them something that their budget can easily allow. One customer even said, "20 bucks is just 20 bucks". But this does not permit us to do mediocre design. No it should not!

Our $20 promo is treated with the same quality as the regular logo design package we will be deciding on later :) As for what the price will be, we will have to assess the market. We don't want to limit ourselves with the so called "little guys" because we treat our clients equally without any bias whether they are a small business, an individual or a big corporation.

Do our clients got any value out of our $20 design? Well, they can attest to it. Just check our portfolios so far and their testimonials. :)

Furthermore, we always give them a 30-day full-refund guarantee, no questions asked.

Our goal is to provide inexpensive web design and services. So don't be surprised if our regular price will soon be far below than your normal price.

About quality... we don't want to compare. It is up for our prospective clients to decide. They will consider several factors of course.

Again, thanks for bringing this out.

Good luck to you!

:)

Guys!

The deadline (January 31, 2002, 12:00 Noon +800 GMT) for our $20 logo promo is fast approaching. We would like to say thank you for those who have extended their patience and have understood our situation. Don't you worry we will finish ALL the designs. We are just observing the first come first serve rule. :)

Here is another sample to give you more hint of our design capability. Enjoy!

:)

Wow, the checomp logo looks really professional! What will your pricing be after this promotion?

Thanks for the comment avara. We are still deliberating on the regular price of our logo. We don't want it to be priced that NOBODY in the mainstream can afford. At the same time we have to look at it for the quality of the work done.

EDIT: We are now conducting a POLL on our pricing scheme. You are invited to vote on it:

How much are you willing to pay for a logo design? (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33227)

Our main priority right now is to finish the design requests. We will temporarily stop accepting logo design orders after the promo. We want to eliminate all backlogs before we accept orders for the regularly-priced logo design. We will resume once everything has been done.

Again, it is my request to all of you to order now (while the promo is still ongoing) so that you can help us manage our queue. We don't want to rush things for you later. Ok?

We will be waiting for your orders....

:)

Hello all...

We are working double-time on current logo design orders.
Here is another one for your eyes.

I hope you will love it.

Reminder: The $20 logo promo is only until January 31, 2002.
Here is the direct link to the order page again:

http://www.castlemelody.com/sales/logo.html

:)

How can you manage to develop a corporate identity for $20?
We usually take for it $2000.
It's a lot of work that mean 100s of variants until the client can
choose its identity. It takes about 1-2 weeks to develop a good
corporate identity that is unique and has the idea. Designers are
always supervised by marketers and PR specialists.

And these people have to receive a good salary.

What kind of logo are you designing for $20?

AndyBa,

Thanks. You are the second person to comment on the price. You might have missed my reply with Tranz. Please read backwards along the thread.

For us it is no question of price. It is a question of quality. We have not much overhead. My main artist (doing the logo of the unicorn and also the ant) is also working part time in a big department store's Ad and Promo section. Another artist (the web designer) is a lifestyle editor in a local newspaper. Still another artists (the one who did the checomp logo) had 3 years experience making logo in a marketing firm. What more could I ask for?

Salary is not a problem. We have already arranged that. Since we are starting out we have agreed not to account salary for the first year of operation. I have developed in them the loyalty for the company. Well, they have their shares! :)

After a year, we will be more stable and have created a name for ourselves.

Another thing, we live in a country called PHILIPPINES (don't be surprised, Filipino people are creative and talented) where 1$ is roughly equal to 50 pesos (our currency). Now, you understand why we can afford to offer low prices.

Be assured though that we are not compromising quality. Mediocrity is not in our vocabulary. CREATIVITY is in our minds:)

Like I've said earlier this is a promo price. We are now conducting a poll to get an idea of the capacity of the market or willingness to pay. We would like to get an honest view of how much should be paid for our logo designs. We don't want you guys to answer a low price because you want to keep it at a low price. We just want your honest opinions. The regular price will be a considered with you in mind.

:)

Hi Consul,

I will be purchasing some more logos of ya tonight :D I cannot wait to see my logo, hehe but from the stuff i seen so far its worth putting the $20 a logo. If your prices are reasonable after the promo you will see more business from us again :)

EDIT,

I just went to your web site and noticed you do banner ads aswell :D - Some of them tonight too

Originally posted by Tranz

I charge $500 to $5000 for a complete logo and corp ident solution.
When little guys charge next to nothing for their work I just cant see how a client feels that they got any value from it.

example: to most people if i had a box in one hand and sid it was for sale for $1, and the same type box in the other and this time it's sale price was $10 most people would feel compelled to buy the $10 for a feeling that it is better because of percived value. This is not always true but in most cases.

I'm not saying that my work is better than yours because of the cost, just dont understand the idea of the low pricing?

Are you trying to sell me $ 20.- boxes for $ 5000.- just so I feel better about it :confused:

I have full understanding for companies that are in so called high cost countries and have a large overhead. If you have to make $ 4000.- real cost to make the logo and then add a 25% profit margin for yourself...fair enough.

But if making one costs you $ 100.- and you are trying to sell them for $ 5000.- (5 months salary thank you very much) then I'ld say you are ripping people off.

My order is in the mail Consul!

HostRat,

Thanks for the trust. We really appreciate it.

Regarding the banners, the current price is $20, but we will be evaluating it soon. We are also planning to launch a promo on our banners soon! Watch out for it. You may want to wait for the banner promo. Let us do your logo for a while. :)

Originally posted by HostRat
Hi Consul,

I will be purchasing some more logos of ya tonight :D I cannot wait to see my logo, hehe but from the stuff i seen so far its worth putting the $20 a logo. If your prices are reasonable after the promo you will see more business from us again :)

EDIT,

I just went to your web site and noticed you do banner ads aswell :D - Some of them tonight too

Pilgrim,

Thank you for understanding our side of the issue. And thank you for the order too!

:)

Guys,

Here is another one just recently made.

EDIT: The dimension is a standard banner but, it is
a logo.

Enjoy!


:)

Greetings everyone!

It is January 29, 2002 (+800 GMT) here! I just want to post a reminder that our promo ends on January 31, 2002 at 12:00 Noon (+800 GMT) .

We don't want you to miss it. Ok?

Just read the thread for sample logos.

:)

Just incase your all thinking this is joke or a bunch of kids making cheesy logos, I paid the twenty bucks just to see what would happen. About a week alter I was sent an image which I really didn’t like, however when I told Allan my thoughts and provided some sites with logos similar to what I wanted, he returned a day later with 3 new versions one of which was nearly perfect for my needs.

While I'm sure I could have got a "better' logo, what I got works online & in print, fits my site and has a image of its own which is essential to any logo. And at this price, the worst thing that could happen is your out twenty bucks.... that’s what, a week worth of starbucks? :)

I have purchased 2 logos from Allan and he has been nothing but helpful - I have not got my images yet but when I drop them e-mails i receive helpful responses :) :) :)

Greetings!

Thanks TedS and HostRat for the support.

We don't want to compromise our promo. We have created an emergency website in case our site is down (or cannot be accessed for some crazy reason).

The emergency website is only meant to take orders. We would like to remind everyone to read carefully the notice before proceeding to the links.

Also, sorry for the popup banners; it's a hypermart thing! :)

Kindly go to http://frogprinz.hypermart.net/

Again you have until January 31, 2002 at 12:00 NOON (+800 GMT), just about 12 hours more to go as of this writing.

Thanks.

:)

Pilgrim,

I am not saying that I rip people off. I am saying that the clientel that I deal with have the funds to pay $500 for a logo and or, $5000 for a complete corp ident.

These packages take weeks to design and go through a number of revisions.
We hand back a complete soltuion to the client and usage guidelines.

We just deal in different client markets. the clients I deal with have the budgets to spend. I go for the guy that has a min of $5000 to spend on a project to start.

I am not nocking him or his work, or his team. i just didnt understand the business model at first. Now I do. We are going after different parts of the market. Also, for him the $20 gos a lot farther than it does here in the states.
If you look at it his $20 or $1000 pesos is just like me charging $500. It all works out in the end.

If it was just me I would have to make 150 to 200 logos per month just to cover my mortage.

The box was just an example issue to by the way. The clients I deal with feel that they are getting something of value if it costs more. Dont ask me why but over the 15 years I have been doing this work if I charge to little they start to wonder whats wrong.

Tranz. Pricing for different companies is all about attracting customers. This deal which has been set my consul is a way of bringing in customers, and so it does! I believe you are understanding him as more of a threat to yourself.

We have the same standard of pricing at the moment, a mere $20, but the professional sides is still of that same HIGH QUALITY, achieved by most "good" designers.

As I have said before, all you need to do is check our the portfolio. This is one way of seeing samples of what type you are going to get. If you do purchase a logo, then a "good" designer will allow time to re-do your logo to the specifications you provide which will make it better.

Anyway, I'll leave it to you guys to continue. :)

Regards,

Bizness3000

This is not a threat to me as I wouldnt even look at a client that only wanted to spend $20. I know that some might take that snobbish, sorry. Realy I am.

I have found that if "I" charge little for a project that even with proper documentation that the little guy wants to marry you. (ask for the world for that $20) This is what "I" have been through in the past.

When I raised my pricing model higher, the clientel seemed to ask less. They excepected high results for that $500.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT FOR $20 YOU TURN OUT LESSER QUALITY OF WORK!

All I was trying to say is the we go after different types of clients. If my phone rings for a "complete" corp ident package. It starts at 5k. They know that picking up the phone.

I am not saying that anybody elses work is lesser or of lower quality standards than mine. By no means at all. I just want to do say 3 to 4 projects per month at say $1000 each then 60 to 100 at $20.

We just go after different clients, the market is big enough to handle all of us including our different pricning structures.

Nicely said. :)

I think all points have been made by both parties.

Bizness3000

Hi!

It is almost 12:00 Noon here, January 31, 2002 (+800 GMT). While we are preparing to end the promo we are extending it to one (1) hour more. This is to accomodate those who are finalizing their plans to order. Here are the links:

http://www.castlemelody.com/sales/logo.html

http://frogprinz.hypermart.net/logo.html
(Emergency Site to take orders).

After an hour, the promo will close once we changed the contents of the URL. If you happen to find the order page after an hour, you are very lucky. :)

Please refresh your browser when you view the pages because for all you know you might be too late already!

Thanks for the time.

:)

I look forward to seeing what your new promotion is Consul. Maybe it'll run along side ours. :cool:

Biz,

I dont mean to be rude but, your quality, to ME is not on the same level as Consul (sp).


I how long have you been desiging?

This isnt meant as a flame just couriosity?

Sure, no problem, I try not to take anything offensively. :)

I however, don't actually design, I run the business. We have two main designers, both with knowledge and skill in this sort of business for 3years with past websites.

I know we provide a HIGH quality service, and anything that is required to be designed will be to the utmost specs. Our portfolio isn't too ranged, but not too many people like their projects viewed by the company who created them. We do beleive however, that the portfolio we do provide is still at a high standard.

If you require a design from us, I know you will most definitly be satisfied with the result. We are great to work with and will continue the job until the customer is happy. :)

Kind Regards,
Bizness3000

Originally posted by Tranz
Pilgrim,

Also, for him the $20 gos a lot farther than it does here in the states.
If you look at it his $20 or $1000 pesos is just like me charging $500. It all works out in the end.

If it was just me I would have to make 150 to 200 logos per month just to cover my mortage.


Yah, I think the main problem is with the income differences in several countries. Not to mention that currently one dollar costs almost 40% more then it did a few years ago.

For example a few years ago I could buy a videocamera in the US for $ 1000.- which equaled EUR 726
Today that same videocamera still costs $ 1000.- but that is now EUR 1134 to me.
But...I still make roughly the same. So if in the past it cost me 72 days of salary to buy this thing, it now costs me 113 days of salary. (all figures are fictive, just for explaining)

But to you it was $ 1000.- and still is $ 1000.- (it's a weird world)

Then there is the difference in income. I have a good income. FAR above what is normal here. So good in fact that the IRS last year decided I should fall in the 52% income tax categorie. Oh lucky me :rolleyes:

But it is not anywhere near $ 20.- per hour (not even before the 52% income tax)
So if you charge me $ 4000.- for a graphic I look at it and think "hmm, lets see. I have to work 4 months for that. He is working 2 weeks on it." Looking on it that way, the price looks waaaaay out of proportion to me.

Ofcourse you look at it like "hmm, lets see. If I work somewhere else I can make $ 40.- per hr. I am going to spend at least 2 full weeks on this so in order to make a profit I'll need to charge at least $ 4000.- for it."

I've been looking at sites where people offer their site design services and put a price on it. $ 40.000.- is quite common.

I can buy a house for $ 40.000 !! With garden!

So buying services from USA designers is hardly an option unless for USA residents. Me and many others have to go with designers in countries where the dollar also has a high value.

Ofcourse there is also an upside to this whole miserable story. Since the income from webhosting is also in $$ I get more income from a customer then a US webhost selling for the same price. ;)

People are often sceptical about how I can offer webhosting for such low prices. I :eek: at them and say low:confused: :D :D