End Of Year Clearance Sale at Dedicated Servers Australia - online since 1995

IBM Xseries 300 Servers - Buy us$899.50 and Colocate for us$99 per month - including UNLIMITED OUTBOUND TRAFFIC, or, Buy and we or Ship to you immediately.

Before you ask.... If you Buy and Colo with us, yes, we definitely do give unlimited outbound outbound traffic. Australia has a unique approach to data charging and it differs from the US. In Australia outbound data is un-metered and incoming data is charged. This makes it very attractive to host content here because most content is outgoing. Colo'd server are on full 100Mbit connections to 100Mbit switches to ATM fibre trunk lines with all Major Australian national telcos - CW, Telstra, etc. The datacentre is Tier 1 Carrier standard.

These are brand new, current model, 1RU IBM Rack Mounted Servers. They come with Red Hat Linux 7.2 installed and include an amazing three year onsite service warranty supplied direct from IBM. This server will run Windows 2000 Server / Windows 2000 Advanced Server, or, any alternate operating system such as Free BSD, Mandrake, Caldera etc. These servers can run one powerful site, or, you can install management software such as Plesk / ENSIM to give a true web based management interface for you and your customers. These machines also make great database servers for RaQ Hosting Companies requiring MSQL7 or Access Databases.


IBM X Series 300 Server 128Mb RAM, 1 X 20Gb HD
Intel Celeron Processor (PIII Available) - 3 Year ONSITE Warranty
Preinstalled with Red Hat Linux 7.2

au$1,999.00 - Less $200 promo discount = au$1799 (approx us$899.50)
Colocation is au$199 per month (approx us$99)

Immediate Activation or Shipment to you!

If you're an Australian hosting company you can rent the server using finance from FLEXIRENT which equates to about au$73 per month over 48 Months

We also have promotional pricing on Windows 2000 SERVER SOFTWARE (5 CALS) ADD au$1578 EX GST (approx us$789.50).

If you want the server shipped to you we send it Fedex and add the shipping @ cost to the price (it's cheaper to ship from Australia to the US as opposed to the other way as our freight costs are all in AU$ which is 50% less than the US$ rates) Delivery is approx 2 working days from receipt of payment. Shipping requires either Telegraphic Transfer of Cleared Funds, or a Fax of your credit card (front and back) and two forms of government issues photographic ID for the card holder (Drivers License/Passport).


PROMO DISCOUNT - au$200

To get this pricing we are offering an additional au$200 off our publicised prices for these IBM server prices. This offer is only available to our existing clients and WebHosting Talk Forum Members. To take advantage of this further discount simply enter WHTALK in the promo field upon checkout and a Discount of au$200 will be applied to your account.

All pricing listed above is in Australian Dollars and Exclusive of Australian GST, which is not applicable to purchases by non Australian Residents.

If you require more information please feel free to email - sales@dedicatedservers.com.au, call +61 7 3831 9111, or chat online Online Chat (http://hc2.humanclick.com/hc/4340799/?cmd=file&file=chatFrame&site=4340799&byhref=1.) . Full details of this offer and our Sun Cobalt Clearance Sale please visit out site - http://www.dedicatedservers.com.au

Regards,


Aiden Jones
Dedicated Servers Australia

* Flexirent is calculated per month based on 48 Month contract. Shorter terms are available. Monthly rental payments exclude insurance and extended warranty, colocation and support. Rates are current as at July 2000 and are subject to change. Flexirent is only available to Australian and New Zealand customers.


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Originally posted by Aiden_Jones
If you Buy and Colo with us, yes, we definitely do give unlimited outbound outbound traffic. Australia has a unique approach to data charging and it differs from the US. In Australia outbound data is un-metered and incoming data is charged. This makes it very attractive to host content here because most content is outgoing

Now I understand all this - but something has intrigued me about this 'scheme' - especially since I'm in Australia myself.

Sure outgoing data can be free - but like many other Australian 'hosts' you limit the inbound traffic to 1Gb/month. While much of the traffic from a typical 'web server' will be outbound - there is still going to be a fair percentage that is inbound - DNS queries, Browser requests for files, FTP requests, TCP/IP communications etc.

On some MRTG log's I've seen the inbound traffic at 10, 20 and even 30% of the outbound traffic. So this would seem to put a bit of a damper on the 'unlimited uploads'. On average at what level of outbound traffic do your customers start to exceed the 1Gb monthly upload limit - given of course 'normal' web based traffic?

You may also like to explain why myself (or others) should host in Australia. Many of the plans available in the USA are far more competitive than I have been able to find locally, and the ping times are only marginally slower.

I hope you see this as a genuine query, and I understand that you are not responsible for setting your wholesale bandwidth prices or terms. But at this stage I can see no point to host locally, but would be happy for you to shed some light on the issue.

PS. I 'chatted' to someone on your "Chat to Live Sales" link last week I think it was - and they said they weren’t a sales person (because they were all off at a training conference all week) so he couldn’t answer my questions, but that he'd get a sales person to contact me ASAP. I've not been contacted since.

OK I probably should clarify a few points.

First we impose no limit on inbound data, we allocate you 1Gb per month of inbound into the coloc price. You can use as much as you wish beyond this just you pay the excess data on a per Mb inbound rate (15 cents Australia which is about 7.5 cents US), which is how we pay to Tier 1 telcos for inbound data.

And you are absolutely right there is still going to be a percentage of inbound data, and that is where common sense comes in when selecting a location to colo. Obviously if you are going to run a databackup site, ftp upload mirror, etc hosting in Australia isn't a particularly cost effective option as most of the data would be inbound. At the other end of the spectrum if you run a streaming media site, mp3 site, image library, membership site etc hosting in Australia is great because you typically upload once and the then download hundreds of time (for free).

Unfortunately within the scope of the few hundred raq servers we have online there isn't a typical data usage that has emerged which is quotable as a benchmark that "a new customer will do". But with us having a few hundred raqs online obviously the system of traffic charging works for the majority of users. It really comes down to horses for courses. If you anticipate large outgoing like most hosting companies do then Australia's charging if great. If you anticipate large amounts of inbound I would host in the US. It's really that simple.

A lot of people mistake the statement of "unlimited outbound" as some tricky scam or 'scheme',as you put it, to capture a customer, much like it has been used in the US in the past. In reality what we are doing is stating a simple fact here, not a sales pitch, it's just the way wholesale data is sold in Australia - to everyone. The logic behind it is reasonably simple if you go back to the early days of the net. Data was seen much like a phone call, it doesn't matter who pays, sender or receiver of the call, just so long as someone pays, remember this was in the days prior to web service etc and the ratio of in to out was almost 1:1. The system has gone through some changes like inbound to outbound ratios etc, but the fundamental premise still remains. Outbound traffic in Australia is considered the non chargeable component of the synchronous transaction.

Again I appreciate your concerns about not being contacted via email but since you haven't identified yourself here I can't check our logs to follow up and see why you haven't been contacted. So feel free to email me directly and outline your questions and I will respond. aiden@webhost.com.au

Hi Wolfy,

I tried to reply to your email but it looks like you need a new free email address as this one doesn't know you. Do you have an ISP based account I could use to get in contact ?

Regards,

Aiden



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Originally posted by Aiden_Jones
I tried to reply to your email but it looks like you need a new free email address as this one doesn't know you.

Edit: Email address works fine for myself and 4 other people who just sent me email.
Will have to put it down to 'the mysteries of the Internet' or something.
I'll send you another email anyway.

7.5 cent per MB =USD$75 per gb for inbound??

Am I missing something here??? Or Is it $7.5 per gb?

Yes you dont live in Aus obviously. 7.5c per meg is cheap. Telstra( Aus's biggest supplier of bandwidth) wants to charge about 18.5 c per meg and that is both inbound and outbound data.

Eiv: that price seems to be normal (out of US) if you take into account that 1 GB of inbound traffic actually gives you another 5 or 10 GB of outbound traffic (if you host "normal" web clients, it depends).