This was on the VDI site today:


On 2/1/2001 licenses for this software will be available to the public internet. Unbelievable features and unmatched performance. VDI will release the most powerful hosting company solution in the world to general public. This software has been exclusively used only by VDI clients for the last 3 years. This soon will be available to the public for a monthly fee.


I think this is a great opportunity for some of their customers to take their servers to a local data center, and still be able to offer the exceptional features/reliability that Cpanel provides.

I'd love to hear other opinions on this big announcement!

Matt
mlightner@site5.com

It is a very nice complete CP for admin of the server and for the end user (resold hosting accounts). I think it is a good move. Goodness knows everyone is plesk'd and webadmin'd out. Be good to get a new CP out there...

Ok, how about this...

Are there any people that are CURRENTLY with VDI, who are considering moving elsewhere... but keeping Cpanel?

I think VDI is just as good as anyplace else you might go (unless you have a need to check on your machine every few days ;) ).

Matt
mlightner@site5.com

Good news!

I hope I could have alt least two dedicated servers later.
One in VDI's NOC and one at my lokal ISP's NOC and both of them will have the same great CP!

Thx.
Soda

Matt

I think that indeed one of the great deals about this is what you are saying, if I had allot of servers and the need to fisically access them, well .. I would consider moving them.

Now .. If I where to do that .. humm .. grab the server and put it on a local ISP ?? .. naaa, now Grab the server and put it in the Office (or even better ... the bedroom) ?? .. YEAH BABY :D

Personally, its the biggest mistake they've ever made.
They have a product not available elsewhere, which is a big part of the decision to colocate with VDI, now that incentive and major selling point has for the most part gone.

However, I suspect the pricing on Cpanel externally will be in the range of 200-300 bucks per server, so is going to be extremly un-economical for most customers of VDI to actually move. And people who colocate with VDI, will still get it much cheaper than those external to the datacentre.

Overall this move by VDI will get them the $ in, that is for certain, but good for them in the long run? Perhaps not..

Let's say that there are 300 accounts in a single server.
I think 200-300 bucks is still worth to buy.
In fact, there's a lot of web hosting company put 750 - 1500 accounts in a server (wow..that's a pretty crap server :( )
In general, it's only cost less than 1 buck per account.

I guess they would like to beat CP competitor such as Plesk etc..
Just imagine that 10.000 servers around the world using their CP lisense @US$ 250,00 per month. That's 2.5 millions/mo !!!

Thx.
Soda

Re: Jordan's post

Yes, but think of what is involved with colo'ing/leasing. How much money they make on that compared to licensing a product that is already developed and just charging people to use it. If Alabanza sold licenses for their CP, there would be loads of customers. Many more servers using the system than what they have now, and much less headache.

The Pricing is going to be $249.00 USD / Per Month / per server. "Unlimited accounts" if you sign up before 2/1/2001

After it's $300.00 per server per month


This is not Windows 95 1 time sale, it is a full Service.

Includes all upgrades, weekly suggestions and then implementing them. VDI has been know to create new funtions just about every 3 days and much more.

*Future releases and even more features,
There are about 100 - 200 more features to get added shortly.

We feel the $249.00 is a nice number,
#1 Cheaper then an admin to work for you.
#2 You will make money on it.
#3 It does not compare to anything thing on the planet and we will intend to keep it that way
#4 Totally customizable
#5 those who can afford it will offer more then the competition.
#6 Perfect foundation for resellers

If you can`t afford $249.00-$300.00 a month Per server for your company for this Service, Then go under the person who did get it, and become a reseller.

1 billion people on the planet will need web sites over the next 5 years. The Internet is not slowing down, and we need to make sure you get Cutting edge solutions "every day" on demand. This is what the Price is based on.

If you do not think it`s worth it, then create your own, or buy the other Products.

This Product is Geared to Owners who run Virtual accounts / Resellers ect. It gives the Owners a Sense of Control, instead of worrying if his admin is going to quit.

As always, if you host your server at VDI, it`s still $25.00 per server license.


http://www.vdi.net
William Jensen

<<Admin notice : post by William passed through CDS guidelines, as it's self-clarification.>>

Welcome aboard William, always nice to see VDI reps around considering the amount of interest you guys get...

Thanks BC / was trying to keep it "not advertising"

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Jordan
However, I suspect the pricing on Cpanel externally will be in the range of 200-300 bucks per server, so is going to be extremly un-economical for most customers of VDI to actually move. And people who colocate with VDI, will still get it much cheaper than those external to the datacentre.
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The price factor is not "Designed for everyone to afford" but yet it`s not un-reasonable. Controlled growth factor.


William Jensen

Well it would be nice to have this control panel for sure but for the price of $249.00 to $300.00 per month thats a little to much for my pockets so I guess I am out of luck :(

War ...

It's only 25.00 if your located at VDI :D

But I have a sever thats not located at VDI so that dont do me any good. I just cant see paying that much per month when others only charge a one time fee for there control panels. Anyway plesk is coming out with a new one next month so I will just wait. Dont get me wrong it may be worth $300 per month to some people but lets say you have a server located outside of VDI that you pay (example) $300 per month for and you add $300 amonth on top of that now you have a $600 a month server you would be better off going with VDI to get your server.

Just not a good deal to me :(

Originally posted by War
you would be better off going with VDI to get your server.

I think that point hasn't escaped 'em :) -but it is an option. Was hoping it would be a one time fee as well though :(

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WAr:
But I have a sever thats not located at VDI so that dont do me any good. I just cant see paying that much per month when others only charge a one time fee for there control panels. Anyway plesk is coming out with a new one next month so I will just wait. Dont get me wrong it may be worth $300 per month to some people but lets say you have a server located outside of VDI that you pay (example) $300 per month for and you add $300 amonth on top of that now you have a $600 a month server you would be better off going with VDI to get your server.
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I`m slightly confused / are you only making $300.00 a month ? Most clients who have say "500 domains" @ $14.00 per domain / $7000.00 a month / a additional $250.00 should not hurt your business, it would only increase it.

I agree, some "others are 1 time, Some charge per account/ IP or have charges for upgrades. This should reflect as a "monthly solution" not just a Software item.

I`m just getting opinion here, not a sales pitch.

It just hurts when you are just starting out... once things get rolling, you'd be ok.

I`m slightly confused / are you only making $300.00 a month ? Most clients who have say "500 domains" @ $14.00 per domain / $7000.00 a month / a additional $250.00 should not hurt your business, it would only increase it.

I agree, some "others are 1 time, Some charge per account/ IP or have charges for upgrades. This should reflect as a "monthly solution" not just a Software item.

I`m just getting opinion here, not a sales pitch. [/B][/QUOTE]

I dont make $7000 a month nor do I have 500 clients all I was saying is its out of my price range. I am not putting down the price it may be worth what your asking for it, but its not and option to us smaller hosts that dont make $7000 a month or to ones just starting out.

I am not putting down the price it may be worth what your asking for it, but its not and option to us smaller hosts that dont make $7000 a month or to ones just starting out

I would have to agree. To a new host, this may not be an option. However, that is why it is still to your benefit to start with VDI. However, once you have 25 or 50 machines... chances are that you might want to "localize" your operation. At this point, you can move them to a data center to which you have physical access (you will probably have your own system administrators, etc).

Basically... if you're a hosting company just starting out, hosting with VDI would be your best option. However if you are a large operation with your own staff/office and quite a few servers, leaseing the Cpanel might make good sense.

Just my $.02 :D

Matt
mlightner@site5.com

Yep, what Matt said make perfect sence, you start co-located, and then move up, but now when you move up (and out) you know you can bring the CP with you ... try to move out of Alabanza :D

Ok here is the new Skin ...

http://testvdi:testvdi@216.74.69.227:2082/

what do you guys think ? :D

Carlos,

Job well done. I saw the previous skin you were working on and I like the nav bar at the top better.

Makes me want to sign up for VDI now. : )

Paul

Thank you, I am very proud of what we achieved here :D

Mime types... picture of a mime :)

For me it seems to 'build' the table in the lower frame every time piece by piece. It just makes it seem slower that it actually is. One thing I would have always like is a similar CP, but plain text, no graphics, easier to midify when you don't have to cut so much out. This feeling cam e more from the last CP skin that Bill showed me. This is certainly an improvement...

Hey .. what's wrong with my mime :D

what about Tux in a shopping cart ? like that one .. hehe

Sweet!

Very nice Carlos...worth noting that this skin is now the default skin for cpanel...thereby every host using Cpanel will have a copy:)

Any VDI Hosts in here? I am one and just wanted to know if there are a few of us here

Nice skin Carlos!!

I'm looking forward to getting my server up.

mhuka

wizardshosting.com (me) is a VDI host, there are a few others in this forum as well

Jordan:

I'm not sure I got your comment :)

"worth nothing .." this was never to be commercial :D

Carlos, he said "worth noting..."

:D :D :D

Well in the future /

http://www.cpanel3.com will be the main site

another "worth noting..." production :D