Has calpop gotten any better? I needed L3 in LA, SJ as well as VA


is calpop in 1 wilshire?
whats their percentage of L3 bw

You can get direct L3 in 1 Wilshire (colocation.com I think?).

i need dedicated servers

I have not had a server at calpop for about 5 months but I HIGHLY doubt they have gotten any better, there is a lot of shady stuff that go's down at that company not to mention I have yet too speak to a tech there that knows anything about his actual job..

they have hired a new network admin and have a new datacenter now. They are very good. I recommend them all the time.

I believe they have a GigE

how much wcg do they have how much xo and how much L3 - ? cuz 1 gig of L3 with liek 12 of wcg is useless all i see is wcg

If you dont mind me asking why do you need level3 to much?

Originally posted by thelinuxguy
If you dont mind me asking why do you need level3 to much?

Gamer ;)

Tracing route to calpop.com [216.240.152.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 11 ms 9 ms 7 ms 10.237.192.1
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 12 ms 12 ms 39 ms so-6-0-0-0.gar2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [67.72.11
6.5]
6 11 ms 14 ms 12 ms so-0-3-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [209.247.9.
217]
7 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113
.162]
8 15 ms 12 ms 13 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.209.82.190]
9 13 ms 17 ms 15 ms www.calpop.com [216.240.152.9]

Trace complete.

not gamer - VOIP

and straeming content tahts y - i also have L3 in chicago so i want it on 1 network - prefereably

Originally posted by The Broadband Man
and straeming content tahts y - i also have L3 in chicago so i want it on 1 network - prefereably

:eek: Why don't you try to have your servers where Stanaphone has it, when I travel to other South American countries it still works with the Crappy DSL they have :)

I have 4 servers from cal pop.. They arent to bad. We are kind of in a messed up situation.. We buy servers from someone who gets them from them.. We are closing those servers and opening a new account directly with calpop.. I also know another good compant is CalHost.com I have heard a lot of good things about them and they are good people.

XS

btw;

L3 Lines seems Congested :stickout:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Navigator>tracert calpop.com

Tracing route to calpop.com [216.240.152.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 9 ms 12 ms 11 ms ge-2-1-rr01.eatontown.nj.nj02.comcast.net [68.87
.48.105]
3 10 ms 23 ms 12 ms srp-8-1-ar01.plainfield.nj.nj02.comcast.net [68.
87.48.193]
4 26 ms 9 ms 11 ms pos-7-1-cr01.plainfield.nj.core.comcast.net [68.
87.19.249]
5 13 ms 11 ms 9 ms 12.119.12.17
6 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms tbr1-p013902.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.219.129]
7 14 ms 11 ms 15 ms ggr1-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.1.121]
8 13 ms 15 ms 13 ms nycmny2wcx2-pos6-3.wcg.net [64.200.68.41]
9 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms nycmny2wcx3-pos9-0.wcg.net [64.200.87.74]
10 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms brvwil1wcx3-pos0-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.253
]
11 65 ms 68 ms 67 ms brvwil1wcx3-pos2-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.121
]
12 67 ms 66 ms 65 ms dnvrco1wcx2-pos9-0.wcg.net [64.200.108.193]
13 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms anhmca1wcx3-pos12-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.24
9]
14 83 ms 81 ms 82 ms lsanca1wcx1-pos1-0-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.140.146]

15 76 ms 76 ms 76 ms lsanca9lca1-3-4.wcg.net [64.200.139.78]
16 78 ms 81 ms 78 ms www.calpop.com [216.240.152.9]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Navigator>tracert 4.68.113.162

Tracing route to so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113.162]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 9 ms 8 ms 11 ms ge-2-1-rr01.eatontown.nj.nj02.comcast.net [68.87
.48.105]
3 13 ms 10 ms 11 ms srp-8-1-ar01.plainfield.nj.nj02.comcast.net [68.
87.48.193]
4 10 ms 9 ms 11 ms pos-7-1-cr01.plainfield.nj.core.comcast.net [68.
87.19.249]
5 15 ms 18 ms 12 ms 12.118.149.9
6 15 ms 12 ms 14 ms tbr1-p010501.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.10]
7 10 ms 11 ms 9 ms ggr2-p300.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.58]
8 10 ms 21 ms 11 ms so-1-0-0.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.127.5]

9 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms ge-2-1-0.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.4.145]

10 81 ms 78 ms 81 ms so-0-1-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [64.159.1.1
26]
11 79 ms 78 ms 78 ms so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113
.162]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Navigator>

Not at all. You're going all the way across the country. A ping of 80 ms is more than reasonable when going from the east coast to the west coast.


C:\DOCUME~1\TERRY>tracert 4.68.113.162

Tracing route to so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113.162]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms h-66-167-41-1.sfldmidn.dynamic.covad.net [66.167
.41.1]
2 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 192.168.7.97
3 13 ms 15 ms 13 ms ge-5-1-133.hsa1.Detroit1.Level3.net [63.211.20.1
85]
4 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms ge-6-0-0.mp1.Detroit1.Level3.net [64.159.0.201]

5 * 83 ms 83 ms so-0-0-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [209.247.9.
181]
6 83 ms 81 ms 81 ms so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113
.162]

Trace complete.

That's one heckuva nice trace.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Optimus>tracert calpop.com

Tracing route to calpop.com [216.240.152.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 52 ms 48 ms 48 ms evrtwa1-ar9-4-65-240-001.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net
[4.65.240.1]
2 47 ms 51 ms 63 ms 4.9.10.129
3 72 ms 68 ms 52 ms so-4-0-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.112.189]

4 104 ms 105 ms * so-0-0-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [209.247.9.
181]
5 106 ms 133 ms 140 ms so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113
.162]
6 131 ms 119 ms 148 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.209.82.190]
7 114 ms 138 ms 154 ms www.calpop.com [216.240.152.9]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Optimus>

I get that. Although all my connections out west travel through chicago level3 so that might be why I get to level 3 there.

4.68.113.162 - is that a calpop IP?

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Optimus>tracert 4.68.113.162

Tracing route to so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113.162]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 74 ms 63 ms 58 ms evrtwa1-ar9-4-65-240-001.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net
[4.65.240.1]
2 47 ms 52 ms 59 ms 4.9.10.129
3 48 ms 50 ms 52 ms so-4-0-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.112.189]

4 108 ms 131 ms 112 ms so-0-0-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [209.247.9.
181]
5 121 ms * 111 ms so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113
.162]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Optimus>


I traced that and that is a high ping because im far away but few hops :P

XS

Target Name: so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net
IP: 4.68.113.162
Date/Time: 8/25/2004 9:11:55 PM

1 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 19 ms 17 ms 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms 20 ms [10.32.93.1]
2 31 ms 20 ms 21 ms 33 ms 28 ms 20 ms 23 ms 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms at-2-0-1-1712.CORE-RTR1.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81.8.205]
3 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms 39 ms 52 ms 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms 24 ms 20 ms so-4-0-0-0.BB-RTR1.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81.8.25]
4 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 22 ms 22 ms 20 ms 19 ms 22 ms 21 ms 20 ms so-0-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.NY111.verizon-gni.net [130.81.4.10]
5 18 ms 21 ms 26 ms 20 ms 21 ms 18 ms 18 ms 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms so-6-2-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net [65.59.196.17]
6 22 ms 19 ms 19 ms 20 ms 23 ms 19 ms 19 ms 22 ms 20 ms 19 ms ge-1-3-0.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.247.9.205]
7 101 ms 98 ms 99 ms 100 ms 100 ms 98 ms 99 ms 99 ms 102 ms 102 ms so-0-1-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [64.159.1.126]
8 101 ms 98 ms 100 ms 100 ms 98 ms 101 ms 98 ms 98 ms 100 ms 99 ms so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113.162]


Target Name: calpop.com
IP: 216.240.152.9
Date/Time: 8/25/2004 9:12:18 PM

1 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms [10.32.93.1]
2 22 ms 26 ms 22 ms at-2-0-1-1712.CORE-RTR1.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81.8.205]
3 23 ms 22 ms 20 ms so-4-0-0-0.BB-RTR1.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81.8.25]
4 22 ms 24 ms 19 ms so-0-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.NY111.verizon-gni.net [130.81.4.10]
5 19 ms 22 ms 19 ms so-2-0-0-0.PEER-RTR2.NY111.verizon-gni.net [130.81.4.2]
6 21 ms 24 ms 19 ms nycmnyzlce1-pos3-1.wcg.net [64.200.68.49]
7 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms nycmny2wcx3-pos11-0.wcg.net [64.200.87.85]
8 41 ms 43 ms 45 ms brvwil1wcx3-pos0-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.253]
9 62 ms 64 ms 63 ms brvwil1wcx3-pos2-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.121]
10 64 ms 63 ms 64 ms dnvrco1wcx2-pos4-0-1-area0.wcg.net [64.200.108.6]
11 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms anhmca1wcx3-pos12-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.249]
12 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms lsanca1wcx1-pos1-0-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.140.146]
13 86 ms 88 ms 88 ms lsanca9lca1-3-4.wcg.net [64.200.139.78]
14 87 ms 89 ms 88 ms www.calpop.com [216.240.152.9]


hrmm

Where are the calhost DC"s located?

7 so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.68.113.162) 54.344 ms 54.254 ms 54.443 ms
8 unknown.Level3.net (63.209.82.190) 42.975 ms 43.202 ms 43.012 ms
9 www.calpop.com (216.240.152.9) 43.295 ms 43.115 ms 43.489 ms

The IP you posted is the IP before CalPop's Level3 router. It's not CalPop's IP, however.

Where are the calhost DC's located? I am looking to order within 36 hours so I need to make an educated decision - someone said CALpop moved DC's. Where'd they go?

Also - $99 for 1 month and 1500gb ... do they WANT a congested NETWORK? -

CALHOST-WEST2
Secondary Data Center
Irvine, CA 92612 CALHOST-EAST1
Tier 1 Data Center
Dallas, TX 75001
CALHOST-WEST1
Primary Data Center
San Jose, CA 95113 CALHOST-WEST3
Tertiary Data Center
Sacramento, CA 95747
[Under Construction]


I could find out tomarrow what exact datacenters.

I know i meant where in SJ .. equinix? etc blah blah

Guess I'll respond to this as I know a bit more about calpop than most (I Think). They have 3 GigEs (Level3, williams and XO). They utilize around 500mbit across all 3 lines, and are way below their commit. No where near congested :)

They actually pushing 600mbit across the 3 lines. They are well below their commitment. Their network has improved loads upon loads due to their new network admin. He is a good guy and a friend of mine their still working on that new site that I complain to them daily about. But I had a server with them about 7 months ago and the amount they have increased since then is just wow. I really dont mind suggesting them what so ever.

CalPop and CalHost are two diffrent companies, you guys seem to be mixing data. CalPop is the one that tends to get poor reviews and CalHost is the Staminus reseller (although they sell for others as well, is CalPop one of them? Couldn't tell you).

CAL-POP's website looks like a free website from lunar pages ....

Ok, I'll clarify this. I was at CalPop for about 5 months. During that time I cannot complain about downtime. Speeds were Fast, and reliable.

They are on 7th Street in downtown, and I doubt they finally moved. They've been saying they've been wanting to move for many many months, and for those interested about the move they are moving from the 5th floor to the 3rd floor, NOT BUILDINGS!

I have no complains about them in the sense of technology; HOWEVER I don't think I have ever dealt with such an unprofessional company. After I took my server out they kept charging my credit card on a monthly basis. I contacted billing and they didn't respond, so I emailed the owner and he said emailed billing, so I said **** this sh!@#!. Luckily, I had given them my American Express, so I had no problems with chargebacks. My chargebacks have never been declined, and to this day (4 months after I removed my server from their location) they are still charging my credit card. They have probably lost all the profit they had made from me because of billing. You'd think they'd be smarter about this...

The girl who does billing is a complete idiot.

Summary: No complaints about lines, only complain was unprofessionalism.

is the girl Lyn? she is handling my account lol - she can't spell for sh*t

HAHA, I'm not surprised.. I don't know her name to be honest with you, but I doubt there's too many girls working there...

hahah maybe its a man! <gasp> :rofl:

nope they are talking about lyn shes not to bright :/

3 ge-5-0-120.hsa2.Atlanta1.Level3.net (209.246.169.69) 0.876 ms 0.762 ms 0.825 ms
4 ge-6-2-1.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (64.159.3.73) 0.888 ms 0.924 ms 0.876 ms
5 so-0-2-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (64.159.0.246) 51.325 ms 51.315 ms 51.279 ms
6 so-10-0.ipcolo2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.68.113.162) 51.709 ms 51.773 ms 51.738 ms
7 unknown.Level3.net (63.209.82.190) 80.715 ms 80.708 ms 80.721 ms
8 www.calpop.com (216.240.152.9) 83.852 ms 83.488 ms 83.414

6th to 7th has got 30ms increase though...

I suggest you get ahold of NRSoftware and use them.

They have Level3 and few other quality carriers along with direct peering with some ISP's in the LA area.

The network is strong and fast and they actually know what the hell they are doing.

You want cheap? Go with Calpop.

You want it to online and smooth? Go with NRsoftware.

We just bought a server from them, they have been very stable and responsive so far, 2 days set up. So far, very satisfied!

Be sure to post a review later.

:mad:

I buy a dedicated server a week ago,

But now ,I still can't use my dedicated server,

I don't know what they are doing.

It went through Wcg from our Florida servers but it's quite a good ping considering it went cross country:

15 www.calpop.com (216.240.152.9) 65.334 ms 65.230 ms 65.291 ms

I have been very happy at Calpop -- they are at Carrier Center in downtown Los Angeles..

Their data center is one floor below Equinix data center and has gigabits of Level3, XO, and Wiltel -- very fast combination for LA.

In fact, my testing showed no one faster..

Great ping times - I test using online traceroute services like traceroute dot org to see how my games will perform..

I can run about 8 games on thier P4 servers...

good place for West Coast Gaming servers...

8 games? what games are those?