Lightone Communications Inc
Special Colocation Offer
Only for webhostingtalk.com members!

Bandwidth Price
- We are a Cogent reseller. Your price will be $40 per meg of bandwidth (330gigs).
- This will be actual usage (not 95%)

Rack Space Pricing
- $40 per Unit of rackspace when dealing with under 10U
- We will go as low as $10-20 per U (Unit of rackspace) when buying in quantity
- $80 per mini-tower you send

Cabinet Pricing
- FULL Cabinet (42U) $799.00 per month
- HALF Cabinet (21U) $499.00 per month
- Must buy at least 2mbit

*We pay for your shipping! Sign up with us, and charge the shipping to us.*

Ordering Information:
- Contact me via either PM, chat or email.

Contact Information:
- ICQ: 131450962
- AIM: Bladened
- Email: chris@lightone.net
- Phone: (800) 789-9092
- Fax: (800) 789-9092

Important Information:
- Minimum One month required
- Customer Service available 24 hours a day
- IPs available with justification
- 100mbit burst rates
- Guaranteed Price Freeze
- Legal Adult Content Permitted
- IRCD, IRC Shells, Illegal, Spam related services are strictly not allowed
- Reboots are free Monday-Friday, 9am to 5pm MST. 2 non-business hour reboots are free per month.

Reboots:
Reboots are available 24hours a day. If you exceed 2 reboots a month of non-business hours, we will charge you $20 for the first 2 and $30 after that.

Your minimum bill per month will be $100.
(If you are only getting 1U and 1Mbit, you will pay $100/mo)

1Unit of rackspace is 1.7" high

IRC Questions:
NO IRC. We just want our customers to be happy with the service we provide and not attracking DoS attacks is part of that. IRC attracks DoS no matter what anyone says.

Remote reboot:
If you want an account on our APC it will cost you $10/mo. You will be able to instantly reboot your machine at any time.

Hardware lease:
If you want to lease a dedicated server from us, it will cost you $95 per month for a 933mhz with 256mb ram and a 20gig harddrive.

Requested information by user(s):
- Our datacenter is in Denver, CO.
- We can offer you complete support, depending on how many hours you need, first 15-30min is free.
- You may scale your bandwidth up and down at any time.
- Yes, 2mbit is 660gigs. ($80/mo)
- All countries accepted.

Where is your data center located?

so that's 660gb for $80 /mo?

Very tempting and a great offer. One question. If I signed up, would I have the option of upgrading the bandwith down the line at the same $40/meg or would I only be locked into the $40/meg only for the amount of bandwith I sign up with intially?

So how about technical support? who would fix my server if it breaks since I'm not in America, I'm in Ireland and would have no way of getting to it.

Originally posted by DEmeant0r
So how about technical support? who would fix my server if it breaks since I'm not in America, I'm in Ireland and would have no way of getting to it.

I will if you pay for my plane ticket to Denver :D!!!

Do you plan on offering custom built solution ? Getting servers from germany to you is a rather complicated thing, so offering servers might be a good idea.

Also, do you plan on offering such bandwidth deals on leased servers ?

Best regards,

Bobbi

Originally posted by lightone
*We pay for your shipping! Sign up with us, and charge the shipping to us.*

We're in Australia, and I notice a people from Ireland and Germany are also interested. Will you still pay for shipping the server from us to you?
If yes then I'm interested - but at the same time I expect it's just another one of those USA only things we see soooooo often. :bawling:

Edit: Lightone, I did not intend that last comment to be a jibe at you or the like. But Blizard's WC3 'beta test' program, various Cash-back-deals and compitition entries - over the last couple of days - have all been limited to USA residents only. That was more the point I was making. :)

Interesting deal.

How about renting that P-III with I GB RAM instead? How much would it be?

Can you please explain how your billing actual usage if your billing per mbps used?

Originally posted by cbaker17
Can you please explain how your billing actual usage if your billing per mbps used?

Seems very simple to me.
My guess is that they measure the monthly average usage in Mbps and then convert it to GB (1 Mbps = 330 GB).
30 days at an average of 1 Mbps equals 330 GB.

Nice offer, shame Cogent is rubbish over to Europe along with TW.

now now dont be harsh. cogent just upgraded their europe link. they flashed the usr sporster to 33.6 from 28.8 :)

very interesting deal tho. nice one.

correct me if i'm wrong, but since when does Cogent have any link to europe? I'm just looking at the network map right now, and i dont see anything outside the USA, they peer everything off at various locations, so i can't see how they could possibly so bad to european inet users, and decent to ones in the north america....

http://www.cogentco.com/Difference/network_map.html

Well along with TW, cogent stinks to Europe.

all these pople are funny, cogent doesnt have a link to europe direct...

Originally posted by cbaker17
all these pople are funny, cogent doesnt have a link to europe direct... Charles (and others), I think you misunderstood what KDA is saying... His point is that for users in Europe, access to machines on the Cogent network is (in his view) relatively slow.

But the point is, if cogent is well peered in the USA, then it will have the same speed as any other site in the USA as far as europeans are concerned. What matters is the route your queries take to get overseas, and that has absolutly nothing to do with cogent, and since cogent peers at 20+ locations/links now (If i'm not mistaken), then the speed you get to sites on cogent should be the same speed as any other sites, within reason.

well i can't remember that i've downloaded anything from Cogent's network... but traceroutes doesn't look that bad from Germany (though we got almost 20 hops). But i could imagine that the download speed stinks ...

A traceroute from Germany's biggest ISP (T-Online)
[...]
3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw13.HH.NET.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.195) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 so-2-1-0.nycmny1-hcr3.bbnplanet.net (4.25.133.5) 98 ms 98 ms 97 ms
6 p10-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.7.14) 286 ms 126 ms 207 ms
7 p9-0.phlapa1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.177) 170 ms 168 ms 95 ms
8 p15-0.phlapa1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.90) 96 ms 96 ms 95 ms
9 so-0-0-0.washdc3-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.185) 88 ms 88 ms 88 ms
10 so-7-0-0.washdc3-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.29) 88 ms 88 ms 88 ms
11 p2-0.vienna1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.214) 88 ms 88 ms so-7-0-0.washdc3-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.29) 88 ms
12 mae-east-atm-gtei.netrail.net (4.24.144.62) 90 ms 89 ms 89 ms
13 dca.netrail.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.28.181) 89 ms 89 ms 89 ms
14 p15-0.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.21) 187 ms 123 ms 252 ms
15 p4-0.core01.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.18) 91 ms 90 ms 91 ms
16 g49.ba02.b003002-1.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.82) 91 ms 91 ms 91 ms
17 Phenomenal-Internet-Solutions.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.31.38) 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms
18 66.28.11.64 (66.28.11.64) 92 ms 91 ms 91 ms

Greets from Germany

italy

1 FR-roma.mclink.it (192.106.166.76) 0.501 ms 0.658 ms 0.582 ms
2 151.5.129.17 (151.5.129.17) 11.765 ms 11.390 ms 10.594 ms
3 151.5.128.225 (151.5.128.225) 10.732 ms 10.817 ms 11.249 ms
4 gw-mi-121-ge-15-0.iunet.it (192.106.1.167) 10.649 ms 10.966 ms 10.825 ms
5 192.94.212.30 (192.94.212.30) 23.607 ms 23.798 ms 23.324 ms
6 mi5-infostrada-1-it.seabone.net (195.22.205.45) 39.321 ms 39.135 ms 39.600 ms
7 so-2-1-1.ar2.NYC2.gblx.net (208.48.33.9) 133.784 ms 133.427 ms 132.538 ms
8 pos5-0-622M.cr2.NYC2.gblx.net (208.48.234.205) 130.841 ms 129.448 ms 130.820 ms
9 pos1-0-2488M.br2.NYC2.gblx.net (208.48.234.214) 132.764 ms 132.432 ms 132.741 ms
10 208.51.134.122 (208.51.134.122) 120.497 ms 118.607 ms 117.842 ms
11 205.215.61.173 (205.215.61.173) 118.874 ms 118.684 ms 118.412 ms
12 p14-0.core01.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.2) 120.342 ms 190.185 ms 204.496 ms
13 g49.ba02.b003002-1.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.82) 119.253 ms 119.793 ms 118.687 ms
14 Phenomenal-Internet-Solutions.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.31.38) 119.501 ms 119.480 ms 118.576 ms
15 66.28.11.64 (66.28.11.64) 119.660 ms 118.864 ms 119.841 ms

umm well my t3 connection manages a massive 50 KBps to our server which is real funny. normally i can dl at about 1.5MBps without any trouble. im not attempting to explain how, it just is.


sorry this is in a post above but when i click post reply i get a parse error on line 515 of newreply.php so i had to add it up here. yeah i share the t3 with some other people and it depends on the weakest part of the link. what i was trying to say was i can happily download from the usa at 1.5MBps not 1.5mbps cos thats 12mbps and when i try to our server its pathetic. it could be the peering at our end but it seems to hold true to what other people are saying. i havent got a clue why . the odd thing is it can quite happily handle 20 56k links at full speed but couldnt manage to aggregate the bandwidth into one link. i admit i havent a clue as to why and wouldnt even pretend to guess. its not my area. i can only state what ive experienced.

I'll tell you how all it goes later this week.
Now everything goes smoothly.

Btw,

Richy if you're on a T3 and you only download at 1.5mbps then theres something massively wrong there, unless of course you only pay for 3mbps on your T3 uplink, and it's very busy. But a full blown T3 should be able to pull 45mbps at max, so you should get a lot more then 1.5 at any given time, perhaps it's your link thats the problem.

check what i edited above. wht was having some trubbs earlier and i could add a new post so i had to edit the other one.

Can someone explain the billing to me? I see that a 1U rack costs 40/month. And the bandwidth is 40/month for 330gb. So wouldn't the total be $80/month, why is the minimum price $100/month. Also, how does the 1mbps bandwidth work, for example, is it throttled to only 125KB/s tranfer can take place. Or is the bandwidth burstable, but you are billed by 330gb increments. Thanks, this deal sounds very good.

What if the cogent links fail, will traffic be routed through alternate routes such as Verio/UUNET/TW Telecom or whatever is in the data center? Or is $40/month for 1mbps it, if its down, we are down??? If we get rerouted if cogent is down, im interested.

as i understand it the 1mbps link is capped at that and if cogent is down its down. they wont divert. but i dont work for them :) still a nice offer. maybe they could get yipes or a tw gig e or get a little redundancy going?

Bandwidth is burstable. We have Yipes! connectivity.

cool, apologies for the misunderstanding.
so i work out my total bandwidth used for the month and then convert it to mbps and thats it? cool

I spoke with Chris on the phone last night for quiet awhile. Seems like he is a good guy. Planning on sending atleast (3) 2u servers, (1) 8 Port Switch, (1)APC Remote Reboot, and whatever else i can find. The deal he made was unbelieveable. Anybody wana send a server and get cheap rates with me, im goign to try and get it down to 10-20 per u by getting a full rack.. Anybody interested?

webtech,

Please keep us informed of your thoughts about their service. If I had an extra server laying around here I would have sent it allready because this seems like a great deal. I guess this just means I have to buy another server to colo there. ;)

Is this offer still valid?

Anyone have something close they can offer me if this isn't valid any longer?

Thanks,
TomK

This offer is still valid.

You say you are billing by the mbps 330 GIG's Is this outgoing and incoming billed or just outgoing... A full mbps would have 330 gigs both way.... Are you offering 1mbps half or full duplex.

Has anyone actually got a server up and running with these guys?
They wont even tell me whats taking forever and a year...
"let me get back to you on that in a little while"

Originally posted by colsson
Has anyone actually got a server up and running with these guys?
They wont even tell me whats taking forever and a year...
"let me get back to you on that in a little while"

Yes, I got one and its running fine, they were experiencing some issues with the motherboards they ordered and besides Chris told me they are moving to a new data center, maybe thats whats causing the delay. :rolleyes:

well, it would be understandable if they have some issues but it would be nice if they would let one know what issues, how long is it going to take etc, not just ignoring people...
would be nice with a server soon!

Especially when they billed you several days ago :rolleyes:

The issues we are having due to the slowness are related to motherboards and space. Space was taken care of in a massive move across the street.

Motherboard issue should be resolved this week.

This week would that be today or Sunday 11:59 pm?

the server that lightone promised me online on thursday is still not online, surprise surprise...
is anyone able to get a respons from these people?
nice business practice, ignore your customers :cartman:

Originally posted by colsson
the server that lightone promised me online on thursday is still not online
is anyone able to get a respons from these people?


As far as I know they had some delays with the servers because of their wholesaler.
I have been told that the servers will be on-line today, they may be in the process of setting them up right now.

I´ve ordered the colo deal with a leased server:
"Hardware lease:
If you want to lease a dedicated server from us, it will cost you $95 per month for a 933mhz with 256mb ram and a 20gig harddrive. "

They say every day that the server will be up so have you seen the servers with your own eyes? :)

Hi,

Same thing as our other threads, delays on hardware. Temporarily (apx 1 week) stopped taking orders so we can get some stuff in stock. :)

I have a server on a Cogent network and from the UK/Europe to it is not bad at all - everyone on the forums I host say how fast they are.

Yes, Cogent has gotten VERY slow recently - my server use to burst upto 2.47mb/s a month or so ago, now it is more like 300k/s.

James

I've sent you an PM about colocation. Contact me and we make some business today! :)

Originally posted by lightone
Lightone Communications Inc
Special Colocation Offer
Only for webhostingtalk.com members!

Bandwidth Price
- We are a Cogent reseller. Your price will be $40 per meg of bandwidth (330gigs).
- This will be actual usage (not 95%)

Rack Space Pricing
- $40 per Unit of rackspace when dealing with under 10U
- We will go as low as $10-20 per U (Unit of rackspace) when buying in quantity
- $80 per mini-tower you send

Cabinet Pricing
- FULL Cabinet (42U) $799.00 per month
- HALF Cabinet (21U) $499.00 per month
- Must buy at least 2mbit

*We pay for your shipping! Sign up with us, and charge the shipping to us.*

Ordering Information:
- Contact me via either PM, chat or email.

Contact Information:
- ICQ: 131450962
- AIM: Bladened
- Email: chris@lightone.net
- Phone: (800) 789-9092
- Fax: (800) 789-9092

Important Information:
- Minimum One month required
- Customer Service available 24 hours a day
- IPs available with justification
- 100mbit burst rates
- Guaranteed Price Freeze
- Legal Adult Content Permitted
- IRCD, IRC Shells, Illegal, Spam related services are strictly not allowed
- Reboots are free Monday-Friday, 9am to 5pm MST. 2 non-business hour reboots are free per month.

Reboots:
Reboots are available 24hours a day. If you exceed 2 reboots a month of non-business hours, we will charge you $20 for the first 2 and $30 after that.

Your minimum bill per month will be $100.
(If you are only getting 1U and 1Mbit, you will pay $100/mo)

1Unit of rackspace is 1.7" high

IRC Questions:
NO IRC. We just want our customers to be happy with the service we provide and not attracking DoS attacks is part of that. IRC attracks DoS no matter what anyone says.

Remote reboot:
If you want an account on our APC it will cost you $10/mo. You will be able to instantly reboot your machine at any time.

Hardware lease:
If you want to lease a dedicated server from us, it will cost you $95 per month for a 933mhz with 256mb ram and a 20gig harddrive.

Requested information by user(s):
- Our datacenter is in Denver, CO.
- We can offer you complete support, depending on how many hours you need, first 15-30min is free.
- You may scale your bandwidth up and down at any time.
- Yes, 2mbit is 660gigs. ($80/mo)
- All countries accepted.

Chris,

I've tried and tried to get information from you or someone on icq and it's like pulling teeth to get answers from who ever is manning ICQ. All I get are one word answers that mostly consist of either yes or no no matter what I ask. My last email has gone unanswered, that was have you finished your move yet and when can i send a server to you to get setup? I need the address and instructions and would like to find out are you still paying s/h?

We are still paying S/H. :)

I've tried and tried to get information from you or someone on icq and it's like pulling teeth to get answers from who ever is
------
unanswered, that was have you finished your move yet

and when can i send a server to you to get setup?

I need the address and instructions

and would like to find out are you still paying s/h?


Originally posted by lightone

We are still paying S/H. :)


see what i mean :confused:

Hehe, silent type of a guy ;)

Originally posted by Ales
Hehe, silent type of a guy ;)

it's ridiculous :(

At least you GOT a response. I've held off on venting here because I really wanted the deal, but this is absurd. Numerous e-mails and AIMs without even a reply. The irony here is that I'm on their dist list for network information, so I get notified of potential impact to a server I don't have.
Anyone else have a similar deal in the Denver area?

For two years of experience of usage dedicated servers companies I have so very very bad experience with this lightone.com!!

I ordered the server about two weeks ago and Chris has told me that the server will be ready a maximum in couple of days and that can be ever faster. 3 days have passed, 5 days and when the week has passed, I began to send emails and icq with by questions that what about mine order. NO ANY the answer I has received, NOTHING, and has solved, that mine order is cancelled And suddenly is completely unexpected I find out that two days ago mine credit card was billed by lightone:eek:

I have thought OK maybe it`s will be good ever with delay. But when I have tried to ask Chris through ICQ when the server will be ready, eventually he just ignored mine messedges!! This simply improbable!:angry:

Chris, I say you that if you has appropriated my money there are ways to take them back not looking on your stone silence. And time you have deceived me I shall be strike you again and again while I will not receive my money all up to last cent!

Whether there is still somebody who has suffered from this swindle?

Dimitri, might want to read the thread in the dedicated server forum, im sure you'll find the right one (hard to miss). Just call VISA, chargebacks are relatively simple to issue, and is reviewed by a type of mediator, then they decide who is in the wrong. Thats the best way of doing it (unless you paid via cheque/money order).

Yes, Thank you. I found it.

Now I believe that Chris all doing on purpose:angry:

It's my very strong advise NOT to go with lightone.net
Wanna know why?
Check http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39935

Also check lightonesucks.org

To come soon....

Originally posted by microsol
It's my very strong advise NOT to go with lightone.net

...

Also check lightonesucks.org

To come soon....


Lol, competing with paypalsucks.com? hehe

microsol, yes I fully agree with you.

It`s seems that Mr. Chris thinks that it is some funny game sitting at itself at home and looking on the computer monitor. But he will not smile when to him come authorities and lawyers - knock - knock - knock - and ask him why he does not give back the another's property and why owe money from credit cards.

Then will be ridiculous to us:D

I think that who else still is a lot of has suffered, I think it`s very sour game for Mr. Chris. I think that his game will be stoped:D

Offer has ended.