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CrazyHostGuy
01-05-2002, 10:51 PM
ATTENTION RESELLERS!!! - Unlimited Hosting accounts from as low as $0.25/month per account!!

www.crazyhostguy.com

Our Reseller program was specifically designed for:

- Web Developers with multiple accounts to host,
- Web Hosting Resellers who want to start their own business,
- Domain Name Brokers

For $49.95/month, you get 4 GB of bandwidth and 200 MB of disk space to divide up into as many completely separate accounts as you wish... as long as each has at least 1 MB of disk space.

Example: Suppose you have 20 websites with an average of 10 MB of disk space required for each. Since the total is 200 MB disk space, all can be hosted with us for a TOTAL of $49.95/month.

Example2: Say you want to start your own Hosting Reseller company, and decide to cater to the smaller market... and offer 1 MB sized accounts for $2.00/month. With our reseller program, you would be able to sell 200 of these accounts. Your revenue would be $400.00/month while your costs are just $49.95/month, or $0.25/month per account. Of course you could charge as much or as little as you want!

www.crazyhostguy.com

AND you can divide your space up however you like. There are NEVER any setup charges or add/delete account charges under the reseller program.

Visit us today at www.crazyhostguy.com and ask us any questions you wish! We have many other accounts as well (not just the reseller) starting from as low as $1.95/month.

Cheers!

Rob Moore

porcupine
01-05-2002, 11:57 PM
Just wondering.... i noticed on your website there is a limit to the number of domains you can host, minimum of 1 meg per domain... so it's really not unlimited. Also, I notice a reseller account only comes with 4gb of monthly transfer, whats the price for additional? I couldn't find it anywhere.

CrazyHostGuy
01-06-2002, 07:39 AM
porcupine wrote:
Just wondering.... i noticed on your website there is a limit to the number of domains you can host, minimum of 1 meg per domain... so it's really not unlimited.

Answer:
Actually you CAN host unlimited accounts, because when you fill up your 200 MB disk space, you can always add more individually OR double all your resources by upgrading to a 2nd reseller plan, at a 10% discount. If you did this, your cost per domain could potentially go down, assuming you indeed only gave each account 1 MB of disk space. Your costs would be $49.95 + ($49.95 - 10%) = $94.91/month, and with potentially 400 accounts, your cost per account would work out to be $0.237/month (23.7 cents each). So it really is an unlimited plan.... all added resources get adding to your same original plan, just doubling it in size.

porcupine wrote:
Also, I notice a reseller account only comes with 4gb of monthly transfer, whats the price for additional? I couldn't find it anywhere.

Answer:
Extra bandwidth usage will cost $8/month per extra GB used. But this is hardly ever needed. Even with 200 accounts, if each is only 1 MB in size, then you would need an awful lot of hits to have to worry about this. Out of 900+ active account holders, only 4 are paying for extra bandwidth.... but they are not resellers (thus they only get 2 GB of bandwidth), and the reason their bandwidth usage is so high is because of 1 of their websites that is hugely popular. In fact 2 of these people are using more than 10 GB per month (VERY popular websites, taking up 30-50 MB of disk space each).

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any further questions.

Rob.

Bima
01-06-2002, 08:05 AM
Don?t you think that $49.95 for 200MB/4GB is a little inflated price? That?s $12.5 for a GB! There are hosts active on these forums that offer reseller plans with 1GB at $2.5-$3.

I also have doubts about profit calculations. Do you think there will be many customers interested in 1MB account? What about space for e-mail? Even Hotmail gives its customers 2MB mailbox.

Or am I missing something?

Marek

porcupine
01-06-2002, 02:22 PM
Answer:
Actually you CAN host unlimited accounts, because when you fill up your 200 MB disk space, you can always add more individually OR double all your resources by upgrading to a 2nd reseller plan, at a 10% discount. If you did this, your cost per domain could potentially go down, assuming you indeed only gave each account 1 MB of disk space. Your costs would be $49.95 + ($49.95 - 10%) = $94.91/month, and with potentially 400 accounts, your cost per account would work out to be $0.237/month (23.7 cents each). So it really is an unlimited plan.... all added resources get adding to your same original plan, just doubling it in size.


That is not unlimited. Your plan has a very clear cut limit of 199 domains at 1 meg each including the host domain. Allowing additional services to be purchased does not excuse the plan to be unlimited. If that were unlimited, then virtually all accounts would be considered unlimited because a provider will not stop you from purchasing additional accounts.

Also, what can you realistically host on one meg of space, other then a redirector? 4 gigs/200 accounts = 20mb, if each account has 1mb of space and say is half full, that means they can get 40 views per month before they've hit their part of the limit. Thats nothing.

CrazyHostGuy
01-06-2002, 02:50 PM
Bear with me, as I've got a lot of answering to do! ;)

Bima wrote:
Don?t you think that $49.95 for 200MB/4GB is a little inflated price? That?s $12.5 for a GB! There are hosts active on these forums that offer reseller plans with 1GB at $2.5-$3.

Answer:
$49.95/month is not just for the bandwidth, it's also for the ability to add/remove/manage unlimited domain names in your plan. If we were offering larger sized plans such as 500 MB or more, and if we were only offering 1 domain, then sure, $49.95/month is high, especially if we also charge $8/gb over 4 gb. Most of the reseller plans we researched from other companies indeed offer more disk space and bandwidth, but they tend not to let you split up your reseller account into multiple accounts... usually they'll give you a discount on buying more of their other plans.... but what will you do with 500 MB in one account if your own site is less than 5 MB (a typical size).
We are marketing to small web designers and resellers. If anyone has LARGE websites looking for hosting, then we are probably not the right choice. Our niche market is small sites, multiple domains. And small sites don't need that much bandwidth.

Bima wrote:
I also have doubts about profit calculations. Do you think there will be many customers interested in 1MB account? What about space for e-mail? Even Hotmail gives its customers 2MB mailbox.

Answer:
Yes!!!!! Our marketing studies have shown that there IS a demand for 1MB accounts, but not necessarily with a POP3 email box.... then you may want more. But all of our plans offer unlimited email aliasing and forwarding, which is what most of the people who want smaller accounts are looking for.
Our marketing studies were proven when we went online last spring. Most of our customers buy the Mini Account (2 MB, 3 POP3s), but most of THOSE do not use the POP3. Our second best seller is the Small Plan (10 MB, 5 POP3s), with 35% of THOSE customers having 2+ accounts.
The story is even more telling with our reseller plan. 13% of our customers have the reseller plan, and of them, 29% have 30 or more accounts in them. 13% have more than 50 accounts, and our largest reseller has over 170 accounts (he makes small business-card like websites, and family oriented websites).

Answer to porcupine:
You are correct. Perhaps the wording in the title of my message was misleading, as it said "Unlimited Hosting accounts from as low as $0.25/month per account". However I stand by my statement as being correct, as you can have as many accounts as you wish at a cost of $0.25 each, as I explained above. You're right in that for $49.95 the maximum number of accounts you can have is 200 (your main one plus 199 extra), but the intent of the add was to show that you can grow your plan as large as you want. Your $49.95/month price will go up, but your $0.25 cost will not.... unless you allott more than 1 MB per account.... which you can. None of our resellers are ONLY selling 1 MB accounts. They make up their own. Their smallest would be 1 MB, but they would also offer larger accounts and charge more for them. Within the plan, everything is completely customizable.

What can you realistically host on 1 MB of space?
Not a lot, especially if FrontPage extensions are required for that account. But there IS a market for it, and we are attracting that market.... and it's working. Everybody seems to think that bigger is beter, but that's not what we're going for. We want to host MANY MANY small websites for people, and grow our name from word of mouth. That's part of the growth strategy anyways. But you do bring up an interesting market.... domain redirects. We have a number of customers that do this exclusively to help increase their search engine ranking and link popularity. We also have customers that deal in domain names (buying and selling them for profit). But the majority of our resellers are small-time web designers, and the second largest group is web hosting resellers.

Guys, I hope that helps explain things a little better. If you tink you would run into bandwidth problems with us, then we are probably not the web hosting choice for you. We cater to the smaller market, and are providing them with a service they're looking for.... flexibility.

Thanks for the questions! Let me know if you have any more.... I'll answer them as quickly as I can.

Regards,
Rob.

Spykie
01-06-2002, 02:55 PM
he has got some good answers:cartman:

porcupine
01-06-2002, 02:57 PM
He certainly does, but I still can't shake the feeling of "mexican border crossing" if you know what i mean. :stickout

ADEhost
01-06-2002, 03:04 PM
he's doing the numbers as anybody would. so run it against any plan and see for yourself.

The numbers work under the assumptions he's stating ( but we know about asuming )

it's just that the tilte of the thread was catchy so you ( as i was ) caught off guard.

buyer beware.
you get what you pay for

Mike

CrazyHostGuy
01-06-2002, 04:52 PM
Wow... tough room! :) :)

I'm (only a little :( ) hurt by your skepticism, porcupine.... but I completely understand. We spend countless hours answering emails with questions like yours..... sometimes they result in new customers, sometimes not.

But our customers are all given "a way out" if they feel cheated (which they don't) or are unhappy in any way.... and that's our 30 day unconditional money-back guarantee. If for whatever reason a customer decides they don't want us as their host anymore, then they can get a FULL refund if they cancel within 30 days. The refund INCLUDES setup fees.... they get everything back. No questions asked, no answers needed.

We completely understand the fact that 1 ex-customer with a bad taste in their mouth is many times worse than 100 happy customers. It's Marketing 101: People who are unsatisfied with a service they're paying for are VERY likely to spread the bad word about the company they're dealing with. On the other hand, SATISFIED customers tend to be less vocal, because they're happy. I wish this weren't true.... I'd love it if all our happy customers were chanting about our services...... :D. But the reality is that you are only as good as your disatisfied customers say you are..... so we work hard at keeping ALL our customers happy.

Make sense??

SO.... we have VERY LITTLE incentive to be underhanded, which is why we're not. We're in this business for a long time to come, the goal being to generate as many customers as we can.... and we'll grow as need be.

It's only natural to be skeptical..... and if you were looking for something in particular that we are not offering (i.e. higher bandwidth, larger accounts), then I can understand your wanting to disect our plans (which we fully encourage you to, by the way!).

But I assure you that the customers we DO have are happy with the service we are giving them, and I'm more than willing to supply you with references.... alhtough I don't think it's what you need since our plans don't meet your criteria...... but anyone else who might be skeptical, feel free to ask me for references. I will even provide you with non-customer references.... that is.... people who USED to be customers but left for whatever reason. Perhaps that will help.

Aside from the above, I'm not sure what else I can do/offer to anyone who might be "skeptical" of our services. We're a relatively new company (April 2001), but have over 900 happy customers right now.

Here's some MEAT for you to chew on.......
1. The first customer we EVER got is still with us (since April 22, 2001).... he has a 2 MB account.
2. Prior to July 6, 2001 (exactly 6 months ago) we only had 41 customers ever sign up with us. In the last 6 months, only 8 of them have left... 33 of them are still our customers. :D :D
We now have over 900 customers.

I think that speaks volumes.

I'd be happy to field any other questions you may have. Thanks for the opportunity to explain things a bit better!

Regards,
Rob.

crafter1
01-06-2002, 07:31 PM
Put it this way, I do two things online. I buy and sell dot com's on a daily basis, and I live in the top 10 and 20 of the search eninges. To do this I also need two things. A extremely fast and reliable hosting company, and the lowest cost per name registrar with the highest security I can find.

I get by using both enom.com for my registrar, and Rob Moore at CrazyHostGuy.com. I use enom becuause of it's awesome security system for my name transfers and purchases. I use Rob becuse, in 2 years, he's the best I have found. I've had my share of failing hosts, we all have. One thing that is the most difficult in using a hosting company is it's support. You should know that as well I do, or just listen up for a minute.

When I need a name hosted that I just bought and know for sure someone else didn't want to lose, or will want immediately after I buy it, I put a ticket in with Rob. If I told you the truth on how fast my acounts get setup, and my names can be viewed by typeing them in, and my questions answered you would think I was lying. So the best way to describe this is, I rely on Rob for each and every name I need up and running quick. Why, becuase I am a demanding person that deals in the lifeblood of the internet, I need no less than perfect results. I can tell you the companies that have been tried and were said true, but they are not and were not. I don't need to bash anyone, I am just telling you what has been working for me for close to a year.

A domain name only needs 1 mg and I have over 400 names. Half of which I "try" to keep hosted with sales pages. I couldn't do this as efficiently as I do with out him. I may, but hosting is what makes my company work and I am tired of hunting around.

Seriously, it's a waste of time effort and energy. When you find something that works, you stick to it, I am stuck pretty well since our sales and profit margin rely mostly on our hosting.

I guess if your trying to resell hosting you have found what I can say works, and works well. Plus if you just want to affiliate off of Rob, get this, I have one resellers account, about to get another, but I have referred so many people to Rob, I think I pay $15.00 or less a month to host each and every name I need up, this is well over 150 names.

Why because the difference of what the $49.95 the plan costs and what I have sent his way, I barely pay for hosting on those domain names. So if you can beat this, do it, but like I said, I am happy. If your looking for someone that is satisfied and happy with the results of one company, email me, this is my personal email, dana@accessdns.com, I would be glad to stand behind these guys.

If, after reading this post. you descide to go ahead and use CrazyHostGuy.com, looking at it from my end, your making an excellent move. If your half as happy as me, you win. You will have found what will be a very satisfying experience when it comes to getting yours or your clients sites up and running in no time at all. I can promise you that.

I hope this helps, you can tell him you read my post and how satisfied I am if you want, but he know's that I am, I try to tell him as often as I can. That's another thing that works, when someone is good and you know they are good, tell them, it just makes them better.

See Ya,
Dana
topsellingnames.com

sayap
01-06-2002, 08:11 PM
Crafter1,

I think if you get a reseller account with webhostmanager or plesk, you can setup your domains instantly, and you can get more space and bandwidth for cheaper price

Just my opinion..

CrazyHostGuy
01-10-2002, 10:50 AM
Thanks for sticking up for me, Dana :)

But I think some guys will think I paid you for that post! :rolleyes:

Rob.

knockingknee
01-10-2002, 11:32 AM
Authorization required to access
www.crazyhostguy.com...??????


That's what I get

porcupine
01-10-2002, 11:37 AM
Heh, I just tried and got the same thing..... someone must be playing with the server :o

CrazyHostGuy
01-15-2002, 07:56 AM
Sorry.... I haven't checked these boards for a couple days now....

That error occured when we were doing updates on our website last week. :rolleyes:

I assure you, it was short lived.... and only affected our own site.

Cheers!
Rob. :cool: