First of all , I want to say Hi to all of you, I'm new to web designing and my english is not to good :( .. but I hope you guys understand the question I'm about to ask ..

What is 'good' stand for in designing a website? everytime I design a website for a client, .. I can't make a 'perfect' design for them .. there's always something wrong with my design that made them hard to accept my web design .. but I don'y know why .. I asked them why, but they just not feel like it ...:confused:

Yes, I do have an account on a template company (boxedart), but I don't have satisfaction everytime I use one of that template ..:(
In fact , I never used on of them ..

come to think of it, I always thought that people who can design a 'good' website are gifted .. that they have talent ... Is it true ?
What are the proportions between gifted and skills ? ..

need your oppinions ...

Thanks b4
ps. Sorry for the bad english ..

i think you can have all the skill in the world to create a great web design, but you cant satisfy the client because he is looking for a diffrent style.

if your "gifted" maybe you have the mind to understand the client and create exactly what he want.

Hello GeneralFailure - welcome to WHT! Gosh, I almost feel bad calling you by your chosen screenname :)

Well, perfection is impossible to achieve. This would mean achieving the highest level of satisfaction possible not only from your client, but from every single visitor who uses the site in question. Design being as subjective as it is, this is virtually unattainable.

Are your design woes strictly visual? The visual composition of a site counts for so little of its value, IMHO. The way in which it is engineered and how people experience the site counts for so much more. The proof for this statement is that you can buy a visually pleasing template for next to nothing, but often what you'll receive is functionally stunted (you get what you pay for, as they say).

The true answer is as individual as each client you're trying to please. Do you have an example of a client who was only somewhat satisfied with a design? You could try posting URLs in the Site Review section and get specific feedback on how to raise the level of your work. As you get feedback on individual sites, you'll probably learn a lot of techniques you can apply to future designs and push the bounds of your development in the process.

Good luck!

wow .. thanks for the advice :) , don't worry about my screen name .. I used it besause I remembered the first word I get when the first time I used a computer :) ... yup, 'GeneralFailure '

anyway .. thanks for the advice :) .. I try to do my best .. I'm working on a website right now .. wish me luck ! ;)

The most important thing is to never give up, and keep improving and spending more time each time you create a website. Im positve that sooner or later you will create the "perfect" website :D

That's right, refried - never give up. I have a client with very simple HTML web site that just needed the design. It took me almost two months to get it done (still not done though), because even though they liked the general look there's always something they wanted to be changes "to accommodate our style, you know" :)
So it took me a little more to go further for this client, but I got so much experience, that probably next client wouldn't even think of pulling this same trick on me again ;)