How where you using 30Mbit?

That's a hell of a lot. Sounds dodgey to me.

They probabally have in the TOS that you can only burst to that a few times, otherwise they will suspend you.

hehe you clicked on the wrong button :P

Either that or he's skitzophrenic .. hehe :rofl:

LOL but anyway. 30MB isn't THAT much, 10TB can be used quite easily by IRC,Shoutcast or high hit websites.

yup, imagine what sites like windowsupdate and places like that must use o.O!!

IRC servers are normally banned for that very reason.

I don't think many people have sites like Windows Update :-).
And i don't think that Windows Update will be using a data centre, one server, on a shared 100Mbit port :-)

IRC servers using 30TB? :eek:

I doubt it would use more than 1TB if its not being DDoS or whatsoever.

IRC is in general a no no for servers.
Most DC's have blocked it.

Just 3 days ago i chucked someone of a server because they were using it as an IRC, and they were transmitting a virus and hosting illegal music files.

1000 ppl in irc =1.5 Mbit

how much does 1.5mbit work out monthly in GB - sorry i dunno how poeple work those out.

About 320gb per mbit.

There are 8 bits in a byte.
So to get your actual download speed, just divide by 8.
So, 1.5/8= 0.1875 (187Kb/s).
0.1875*60=11.25Mb (1 minute)
11.25*60=675Mb/hour
675Mb*24= 16.2Gb/day
16.2Gb*30= 486Gb

Therefore, a contineous connection of 1.5Mbit/s would give 486Gb/month (approx).

Now you can see why 30Mbit is such a huge amount that no-one should really need.

Originally posted by thomas7

Therefore, a contineous connection of 1.5Mbit/s would give 486Gb/month (approx).

Now you can see why 30Mbit is such a huge amount that no-one should really need. :eek:

Since when was 486GB/month considered a large amount of data transfer? Even my mapping website for a not-so-popular Quake 3 mod used to shift 5TB/month, and I didn't consider that much at all. Popular sites supporting CS and the next wave of online FPS games will shift a lot more than that in map distribution alone.

Find me a host for under $200/m who will give you more than 2-3Gb transfer?

Originally posted by thomas7
Find me a host for under $200/m who will give you more than 2-3Gb transfer?

2-3TB?

Originally posted by thomas7
Find me a host for under $200/m who will give you more than 2-3Gb transfer? There are probably some around, but I wouldn't use them. My site was hosted by Blueyonder in the UK on a guaranteed 100Mbit uplink, but I can't disclose the pricing as it was a private deal.

My point was simply that 30Mbit is not at all hard for webmasters to attain. A friend of mine runs a site that does 250Mbit constantly on a Gbit uplink; that's what I would consider reasonably high usage.

Sorry! Lol yeah.
2-3TB!

I have 1 server running irc only pushing 1100 gigs a month without dos.

Just a small point.
I'm not an expert on this, but i was under the impression that a hard drive could only work about about 10Mbit/s?

I have a server pushing 40-50mbps 24/7

Who hosts this server?

I bet you are paying a lot for it.
The server in question was for only $149/m

Originally posted by Jay Cornwall
:eek:

Since when was 486GB/month considered a large amount of data transfer? Even my mapping website for a not-so-popular Quake 3 mod used to shift 5TB/month, and I didn't consider that much at all. Popular sites supporting CS and the next wave of online FPS games will shift a lot more than that in map distribution alone.

Right... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by thomas7
Just a small point.
I'm not an expert on this, but i was under the impression that a hard drive could only work about about 10Mbit/s?

Under the right conditions, a single server can push well over 100Mbps (into the several hundred megabit range, actually). We see customers doing it all the time (24/7, actually). This is primarily for just HTTP and FTP file downloads. For anything CPU intensive, you probably won't be able to push that much.

Thanks,
Russell

Originally posted by thomas7
Who hosts this server?

I bet you are paying a lot for it.
The server in question was for only $149/m


$2000/month

Ah, well there we are then.
At $2000/m you can afford to give a dedicated 100Mbit port to each server.

this just turning into one of those drooling conversations on bandwidth :)

Originally posted by thomas7
Just a small point.
I'm not an expert on this, but i was under the impression that a hard drive could only work about about 10Mbit/s?

Originally posted by Rusty500
Under the right conditions, a single server can push well over 100Mbps (into the several hundred megabit range, actually). We see customers doing it all the time (24/7, actually). This is primarily for just HTTP and FTP file downloads. For anything CPU intensive, you probably won't be able to push that much.



Your network thruput is typically measured in bits. Your hard drive thruput is typically measured in bytes. A modern IDE or SCSI HD will push 40-50MBps while averaging around 30MBps. Even really old IDE HDs would run from 10 to 16 MBps. A 100Mbps network connection is moving around 12.5MBps at 100% efficiency

bits / 8 = bytes

Originally posted by thomas7
Just a small point.
I'm not an expert on this, but i was under the impression that a hard drive could only work about about 10Mbit/s?Well, you're rarely spooling only off the hard disks; servers tend to carry large amounts of RAM so that they can cache frequently accessed content.

Having said that, the site pushing 250Mbit/s is built up from large disk arrays since the entire archive spans several terabytes.

Originally posted by jheslop1
Right... :rolleyes: You sound as if you don't believe me? Have you ever run a file distribution site, or are you thinking in terms of web page content alone?

One of the archives is still up, although this one was sponsored bandwidth:
ftp://ftp.blueyonder.co.uk/mirrors/ftp.planetquake3.net/urbandepot/

(for the now defunct urbandepot.net that I used to run - you can whois the domain if you still don't believe :D)

Originally posted by Jay Cornwall

(for the now defunct urbandepot.net that I used to run - you can whois the domain if you still don't believe :D)

so you live in Middlesex ?!? :laugh: :banana:

Originally posted by thomas7
Ah, well there we are then.
At $2000/m you can afford to give a dedicated 100Mbit port to each server.


No you cant. I dont know what world you're living in but I prefer a quality host and good bandwidth.

Originally posted by thomas7
Just a small point
I'm not an expert on this, but i was under the impression that a hard drive could only work about about 10Mbit/s?


Thomas,

no.

10Mbit is around = 1.250 KB/s

For example when somebody say, I have 768 Kbit connection to the internet, maximum (in perfect) would be 96 KB/s

You can get that number by devide 768 with 8 = 96 kb/s or 1024 (1 MBit) 1024 / 8 = 128 KB/s

Hard drives if it's one file (for example a movie or similar), can go up to 7-8 MB/s in this case, Mbyte not Mbit, and 8 MB/s is around 100 Mbit-a

Ofcourse, if hard drive is reading many small files, then transfer would be slow, but you can pul with no problem 10Mbit out of your hard drive, it's like a old (if you recall) BNC network, that we use to call 10Mbit (even now) network.

N

My mistake :-)
I thought it was 10Mbit, not 10Mb. I wish they would not call them bits and bytes! Too confusing.

Who's for renaming bits? :-D
Any suggestions for names?

Originally posted by thomas7
Who's for renaming bits? :-D
Any suggestions for names?


Well, that would be even harder then traying to switch american's from "mile" mesure to "meter" :)

N.

Originally posted by BiGWill
so you live in Middlesex ?!? :laugh: :banana:

That was so funny. :o

Originally posted by thomas7
Who's for renaming bits? :-D
Any suggestions for names?


MB = megabytes
Mb = megabits

:spamsign:

Originally posted by EvlRoc
MB = megabytes
Mb = megabits


*sighs* nobody read my post.

Originally posted by Rusty500
Under the right conditions, a single server can push well over 100Mbps (into the several hundred megabit range, actually). We see customers doing it all the time (24/7, actually). This is primarily for just HTTP and FTP file downloads. For anything CPU intensive, you probably won't be able to push that much.

Thanks,
Russell

Yep, that's absolutely right. It's fairly normal for our SourceForge mirror to be pushing ~ 100Mbit. Infact, right now, it's doing about that and load on the box is:

20:59:36 up 13 days, 20:22, 1 user, load average: 2.91, 1.42, 1.50

Hmmm, maybe it IS time for an upgrade :-)



;)

Originally posted by nopzor
Yep, that's absolutely right. It's fairly normal for our SourceForge mirror to be pushing ~ 100Mbit. Infact, right now, it's doing about that and load on the box is:

20:59:36 up 13 days, 20:22, 1 user, load average: 2.91, 1.42, 1.50

Hmmm, maybe it IS time for an upgrade :-)



;)

That a hint to give me cheap bandwidth? :D

Originally posted by thomas7
There are 8 bits in a byte.
So to get your actual download speed, just divide by 8.
So, 1.5/8= 0.1875 (187Kb/s).
0.1875*60=11.25Mb (1 minute)
11.25*60=675Mb/hour
675Mb*24= 16.2Gb/day
16.2Gb*30= 486Gb

Therefore, a contineous connection of 1.5Mbit/s would give 486Gb/month (approx).

Now you can see why 30Mbit is such a huge amount that no-one should really need.


Hey, good information for newbies. Dont forget ircds, game servers does not use fully every time nights go decrease then 1.5mbit X 20 days i thing for 1000 ppl on irc to learn mo/GB

Rgrds,

Originally posted by NEMON
Well, that would be even harder then traying to switch american's from "mile" mesure to "meter" :)

N.
Or, metre ;)

Regards.

Apprantely, half a byte is called a nybble. Just some food for thought. At least it's not the MB/Mb thing...

Originally posted by CWSO
Or, metre ;)

Regards.


Well, I did spell it good.

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html


N.

Originally posted by jheslop1
:spamsign:

Spam? :confused:

Originally posted by NEMON
Well, I did spell it good.

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html


N.
Don't worry, I'm guessing your Americian and missed the joke?:)

Originally posted by NEMON
Well, that would be even harder then traying to switch american's from "mile" mesure to "meter" :)

N.

We could never do that because then us Virginians couldn't pronounce it with a cute southern twang. :D

Originally posted by CWSO
Don't worry, I'm guessing your Americian and missed the joke?:)

Well I am not :)

N.

Originally posted by DeathNova
We could never do that because then us Virginians couldn't pronounce it with a cute southern twang. :D

Well, I can only gues how that sound :) Never talk with somebody from there.

N.

Southern English to English translations:

meter would still be meter,
mile = "mall" (long "L" sound)

Originally posted by DeathNova
Southern English to English translations:

meter would still be meter,
mile = "mall" (long "L" sound)

Well then, I learn something every day, something with more purpose, something with less :)

N.

This thread is so far off course it hurts.

Originally posted by jwr
This thread is so far off course it hurts.


And you did not help at all! :)

N.

Originally posted by thomas7
Now you can see why 30Mbit is such a huge amount that no-one should really need.

really? maybe 640KB is too much RAM to use as well?

i burn more than 30Mbit and don't feel bad of that.

regards