I think it's awesome! I just can't figure out why not too many people are using it. I know it is relatively new, but I think the pricing is not too bad and the feature list is unparalleled!

Anyways, my question to those who don't use H-sphere is WHY NOT?!?

And to those that do, are you disappointed or impressed?

Thanks for your time...


:cool:

H-sphre has a great look and runs real smooth but it lacks some of the addons that other scripts have. Also, h-sphre is very expensive coming in at $450 for 100 users (last I checked).

I also agree with you that H-Sphere is a great panel.

There are a number of reasons why h-sphere is not as popular as it should be,

1)Multiserver-actually a feature, but it runs best with multiple servers, which not too many people have.

2)Custom install - you can't install the software yourself, they have to install it for you.

3)complicated - if you check out the demo, you will see that h-sphere is actually very powerful and at the same time very complicated.

4)The IP change fee

There are probably a few more,

Peter

Originally posted by TedS
H-sphre has a great look and runs real smooth but it lacks some of the addons that other scripts have. Also, h-sphre is very expensive coming in at $450 for 100 users (last I checked).

What add-ons do you say it lacks ? .. do you mean 3rd party scripts ?

Right... s-sphre has all the core funcitons, email, dns, domains, ftp, etc.... but it doesnt have many extra cgi scripts or so forth (which users love)

Originally posted by TedS
Right... s-sphre has all the core funcitons, email, dns, domains, ftp, etc.... but it doesnt have many extra cgi scripts or so forth (which users love)

I see, well, when you are in this business for a while you will realise one thing :) .. the heck with the little add-ons, bring in the functionality and stability ;)

Neither the less, it woudl be nice to see soem more 3rd party scripts, but you as the host can implement those yourself also :)

Hey Carlos

Could you share your experience about shpere control panel?
- Features, stability, easy to use..etc?
- How does it compare to cpanel? In what area is it better than cpanel?
- In what area is this CP lacking?

I used H-Sphere at one time and didn't care to much for it. I would assume use Plesk over H-Sphere and i'm not much on plesk i'm more on cpanel.

Originally posted by Eiv
Hey Carlos

Could you share your experience about shpere control panel?
- Features, stability, easy to use..etc?
- How does it compare to cpanel? In what area is it better than cpanel?
- In what area is this CP lacking?

Hi Eiv

HSphere has proven itself very reliable, with each new version you can see some real nice improvements

I cannot compare it to Cpanel as both of them have very little in common ;) .. overall I believe it's a better system

Well, the SKIN for once is hard as hell to change (say hello to XML) but not impossible :) .. there are a few things here and there that we do notice it's missing, but overall it still has more features than most other control panels out there

One great thing is that PSOFT really issens to you if you tell them about a feature you woudl liek to see, they will implement it in a version or two (as long as what you are asking does prove to be usefull)

cheers

Carlos

I agree with Carlos,

H-Sphere is very stable and packed with features. Also they listen to your wish lists and add them if they can fit it in.

The skin though needs lots of work and hard to change as stated and some of the names are confusing but hey it works, stable and has allot of features. 2.09 is also going to have some great stuff. Can't wait.

If you have any doubts just try their demo and talk to them.

I read their document. It seems there is tones of features.

But when I look at the demo. I find it pretty hard to understand how it works. Perhaps too much features..:). I guess I got to read the manual too.

That's one of the problem. The system is very robust and hard to understand. You can't dive into it and know it in one day. It takes time. If you're willing to learn it though it will all come together. Most people don't want to read so they think the system isn't any good but it is if you take the time to understand it.

What is the Change IP FEE?


Thanks

Originally posted by Dilhole
What is the Change IP FEE?


Thanks

I am trying to figure that out too. Anyone has experience with Sphere, please feel free to comment.

Originally posted by TedS
H-sphre has a great look and runs real smooth but it lacks some of the addons that other scripts have. Also, h-sphre is very expensive coming in at $450 for 100 users (last I checked).

Sorry for this dumb question, but those $450 for 100 users, are monthly fee? or 1 time?
I can't find the answer either in the h-sphere site.

That's a one-time fee.

Peter

Yeah, one time fee. But there is also the 20% annual fee for upgrades. With 300 domains, it would cost you something like ~$1350+20%. Compare to Plesk and cpanel. It seems to be expensive. But their product do look quite advance.

Check this page out: http://www.psoft.net/h_sphere2_pricing.html

Well.. Cpanel retail price is $1140/year per server :P

As I can see you can split those 300 accounts in more than 1 server, right?
Right now I'm using 5 servers for near 500 customers..
So H-Sphere would be cheaper.

Then what are you waiting for :')

Peter

Originally posted by Jedito
Well.. Cpanel retail price is $1140/year per server :P

As I can see you can split those 300 accounts in more than 1 server, right?
Right now I'm using 5 servers for near 500 customers..
So H-Sphere would be cheaper.

Yeah, depend where your server is located. Cpanel licence cost from $35 to $99 per month.

You can give them a try. So far, all the response seems to be positive and they seem to update/ upgrade their cp regulary.
Just go check out their News section. They listen to customers request. I am actually planning to setup a server to test out their cp soon.

Yep, me too :)

An Incredible product. Takes the best of all others and adds functionality to it while at the same time exhibiting stability. However, I find the pricing structure a bit aggressive myself.

If it was truly a one-time purchase, the pricing would be high, but acceptable. However, you know the product will continue to evolve and you will continue to pay for maintenance and upgrades.

I basically feel that you have to amortize the cost of control panels over one year. That being said, I present the following:

These are all based on published retail-not discounted rates.

If you average 100 accounts per server, 1000 accounts will cost you $4500 on H-Sphere versus $12000 on CPanel versus $6000 on Plesk.

If you average 200 accounts per server, 1000 accounts will cost you $4500 on H-Sphere versus $6000 on CPanel versus $3000 on Plesk.

If you average 500 accounts per server, 1000 accounts will cost you $4500 on H-Sphere versus $2400 on CPanel versus $1600 on Plesk.

So, because H-Sphere is per account, not per server, it is competitively priced if you have relatively small numbers of accounts per server, but is high if you have a higher number of accounts per server.

True .. but think about it .. that's only for the FIRST year .. the second one you only pay 20% ;)

of course, we all know some hosts will not last till the second year :D

j/k .. lol

Originally posted by Incognito
An Incredible product. Takes the best of all others and adds functionality to it while at the same time exhibiting stability. However, I find the pricing structure a bit aggressive myself.

If it was truly a one-time purchase, the pricing would be high, but acceptable. However, you know the product will continue to evolve and you will continue to pay for maintenance and upgrades.

I basically feel that you have to amortize the cost of control panels over one year. That being said, I present the following:

These are all based on published retail-not discounted rates.

If you average 100 accounts per server, 1000 accounts will cost you $4500 on H-Sphere versus $12000 on CPanel versus $6000 on Plesk.

If you average 200 accounts per server, 1000 accounts will cost you $4500 on H-Sphere versus $6000 on CPanel versus $3000 on Plesk.

If you average 500 accounts per server, 1000 accounts will cost you $4500 on H-Sphere versus $2400 on CPanel versus $1600 on Plesk.

So, because H-Sphere is per account, not per server, it is competitively priced if you have relatively small numbers of accounts per server, but is high if you have a higher number of accounts per server.

I would like to add a small note here.

it 's real cost is only about .42 per account per month for the first year then about .09 per month afterward.

I just found out that the product h-sphere clients can be reused when a client leaves your service.

I'm shopping for a new control panel so they happen to be in the running. top 4 contender.

Mike

Just waiting for the Solaris release :)