Hello,

I have been using the program WHM Autopilot :

www.whmautopilot.com (http://www.whmautopilot.com)

Any one use this program.. It is working perfectly right now, but when you get dozens of servers and 1,000's of accounts can this software handle it??

Any suggestions or comments.. My whole website is based on this program..

Thanks a bunch

check out first modernBill, then lpanel. Those options will more likely scale for you.

Originally posted by serverunion
check out first modernBill, then lpanel. Those options will more likely scale for you.

This statment is not valid to the thread question.


WHM.Autopilot can handle that many clients and servers just fine.

thanks so much... Just wanted peeps feedback on whm autopilot.. Hope its good because my website relies 100% on it..

Thanks a bunch

:)

Hi Ebiz,
We use WHMAP and it's scaled just fine as we've grown. Great script and they're constantly improving on it.

Hello.

I too will vouch for WHMAP.The program has been excellent for me . The few things I woul change are being released in version 3 (which is coming soon, and all users who have an earlier version get a free upgrade).

ohh what other options can I look forward to in version 3???

Well, for one, you'll now be able to sell services apart from hosting as stand alone products.

Originally posted by Ebiz
ohh what other options can I look forward to in version 3???


http://69.93.73.188/forum/index.php?showtopic=3033

dont hold your breath or even ask when it will be release. All they do on the forums at WHMAP is flame you telling you to wait and that the "unkown" upgrades to it will be the best you have ever seen.

I somehow dont believe them anymore...

Originally posted by serverunion
dont hold your breath or even ask when it will be release. All they do on the forums at WHMAP is flame you telling you to wait and that the "unkown" upgrades to it will be the best you have ever seen.

I somehow dont believe them anymore...

Flame? Do you even know what the word "flame" means?

As stated before version 3 is being rebuilt from the ground up. As many other competitors do, we could just ignore all the clients of WHM.Autopilot and work on version 3 but that's not the companies style and never has been from day one.

Everyone wants new items. When they become available they are released such as the new call feature (VariLogiX). Many many clients don't like to run the latest build and encounter errors as they try to update. These issues have to be handled which puts a stop in any development. We understand your frustration with the dates being backed up but their is a sticky in 2 of the sections that clearly state the current issue with version 3 and we ask that a dozen or so threads are not opened with the same question "When is version 3 coming out?".

A simple reply with a link to the pinned topic is given and thread is closed. You feel that is flaming? Well if so then I apologies.

That was a test to see the standard response, I think my case has been made... Thanks for the help. :D

Good luck eBiz as your sales start to ramp up, keep on top of it and any solution will work for you.

Originally posted by serverunion
That was a test to see the standard response, I think my case has been made... Thanks for the help. :D

Good luck eBiz as your sales start to ramp up, keep on top of it and any solution will work for you.

I agree with you serverunion. The product is a "run of the mill" program... Just another one out there and nothing truley special about it, I mean, nothing that actually sets it apart from the more established ones, such as ModernBill.

I mkust say that their support is great! They planned very well to support the buggy script.

And then to add their "attitudes" into the picture, just makes it even more desirable.

eMax is a mod over there and that is the reasoning for his defesive posts. But I will leave that alone :D

I have worked with internal database structure of WHM AP a lot, and sorry to say that, but it shows how limited that application is. Don't want to go into long discussion about building SQL based applications, but could not resist to give a recommendation based on my experience.
The code is sloppy, leaves lots of orphan records and does not maintain integrity of data. Those are enough reasons for me to recommend ModernBill or any other application that deals with sensitive data of any company, over WHM AP.
Hopefully the situation will improve with next version and I will be able to recommend it to the start up companies.

Discounted ModernBill licenses on sale and WHM AP-> MB converter

now i understand why you're bashing whm ap.

nice try. :eek:

myself I prefer Lpanel over the rest

Originally posted by boeki
now i understand why you're bashing whm ap.

nice try. :eek:

Personally, I don't think it's "bashing" when someone asks your opinion.
Any suggestions or comments.. My whole website is based on this program..

Lets say that you offer servers on your website via EV1 and someone asks you about Managed.com. If you come here and say that manage.com sucks, are you bashing? (and yes, lets also assume that you HAVE used managed.com).

To me, it seems that he found a good / better product (in his mind) and went with it and endorses it. You have to remember, everyones opinions are based off of 'something'. His decision to sell MB licenses has little to do with "bashing". He found a product that he believes in. And now he is telling HIS opinion, the opinion that he was asked to give.

From the original post:
Any suggestions or comments.. My whole website is based on this program..
He didn't say "If you have extensive knowledge about the program DO NOT reply to this post".

If I made a post asking about a product, I would want to see EVERY opinion about that product. The good, bad and the ugly. Then I will take that information and compile it and make the best decision for myself.

Just my 2 cents....

Originally posted by kickmybutt
Lets say that you offer servers on your website via EV1 and someone asks you about Managed.com. If you come here and say that manage.com sucks, are you bashing? (and yes, lets also assume that you HAVE used managed.com).

the guy got a trial license for whmap and he's suddenly an expert on it's inner workings? wow, i bet he even got to see the zend encoded codes!

what i was trying to point out is that the topic was if whmap was good or not. he points out his "expert" opinion on whmap and then proceeds to "sell" mb and how better it is.

oh, and his signature states that he resells mb licenses. what is one going to think about that??

Originally posted by boeki
the guy got a trial license for whmap and he's suddenly an expert on it's inner workings? wow, i bet he even got to see the zend encoded codes!

what i was trying to point out is that the topic was if whmap was good or not. he points out his "expert" opinion on whmap and then proceeds to "sell" mb and how better it is.

oh, and his signature states that he resells mb licenses. what is one going to think about that??

boeki, I'm sorry that you took my post so personally. Yes, I do resell ModernBill. I do that because I have tested that application for a very long time (as many other applications), and found it trustworthy. I had lot of requests regarding reselling that program, and I'm proud of it. There is nothing to hide, and I am just fulfilling wishes of people who trust me and my reputation.

I helped many webhosting companies to start from scratch, and I will only recommend them the software I believe in.
I am software developer with 15+ years of active experience, and I see software a little bit different than you. For you it doesn't matter if your program leaves data unstructured, for me as developer - this is unnacceptable. I deal with high-profile customers that cannot pick an option, that will endanger their sensitive information about billing and payments. And I felt sharing my opinion here will benefit someone who thinks seriously about responsibilities to his company.

As to what people will think about me? How does it bother you? The only bashing or flaming here you did. And I don't believe I posted anything that would touch you personally.
I provided expert advice on the topic I feel expert in, and that's it. There is no more to discuss about it, and if you feel you need to tell me something more, please do not hesitate to contact me privately.

piranha - I feel until you can provide proof regarding your statements about WHM.Autopilot, that you stop bashing a product you have little knowledge over.

If you do have proof please provide it publicly. I would be interested to see it.

Emax, please speak to Brandee.

I personally like lpanel I've been using it for a while next version is supposed to be adding some good features as well.

We used WHM AP for a while, and found it just too cumbersome. I honestly can't begin to comprehend that any hosting company can continue to use WHM AP if they are processing good sales figures.

It's hoggy, comes with a lot of code baggage, and needs a lot of improvement to catch up to ModernBill.

Before someone hops on my post claming I am "flaming" - we used WHM AP for 6 month's, both testing and in live production.


Simon

Originally posted by IHSL
We used WHM AP for a while, and found it just too cumbersome. I honestly can't begin to comprehend that any hosting company can continue to use WHM AP if they are processing good sales figures.

It's hoggy, comes with a lot of code baggage, and needs a lot of improvement to catch up to ModernBill.

Simon

I agree with those statements

wow, i bet he even got to see the zend encoded codes!
Yes, as a matter of fact, I have.

Originally posted by kickmybutt


congratulations! you must be good at reading zend's opcode! :D

all these bravado about code analyzing and db assessment doesn't help anyone. take my case, for example. i needed to have a billing system. i have cpanel on my servers and that's all i intend to use. i want the system to automate account creation with monitoring of resource usage. i also wanted to sell domain names and have the ability to sell add-ons like ip, extra resources, and whatever else. i also needed an affiliate system. and lastly, it has to fit my meager budget.

that's why i chose whmap.

i didn't need to spend time trying to hack into their codes just to figure out if i could use their software.

(btw, attempting to reverse engineer or decompile their code is a violation of whmap's license agreement.)

Originally posted by boeki
congratulations! you must be good at reading zend's opcode! :D

(btw, attempting to reverse engineer or decompile their code is a violation of whmap's license agreement.)

BTW, you know what they say about ASSuming.... ;)

Boeki,

just drop it man. If you have any further doubts please contact Brandee which is author of WHM AP, and he is aware of this thread.

And FYI I don't have to be licensee in order to have WHM AP database on my computer. I can analyse it however I wish. Database structure alone can tell you exactly how application works (well, maybe not to you but to me it does).
If you use arguments - at least make sure they are valid and make sense.

If you are happy with WHM AP, good for you - but please stop jumping on everyone who has different opinion. Try to keep this discussion usefull instead of flaming.

Originally posted by kickmybutt
BTW, you know what they say about ASSuming.... ;)

good point! :D

I have been a customer of WHM Autopilot for a couple months, and the software works perfect for us. I don't think you will have much problem with having a bunch of client loaded on it, you just need to have the space to handle it :). But I am a satisfied customer.

Is there anything like WHM Autopilot for Windows servers?

Thanks,
Brandon

HELM, a few others too..

Isn't HELM just a CP? It doesn't automaticly setup the accounts based on a customers purchase does it?

Brandon

I have tried whoiscart and whmap and I must say whmap rocks!!!

whmap will be a perfect fit for me if they support non-hosting items

Still waiting for V3 :)

Originally posted by phoebs
Still waiting for V3 :)

The set date for the first beta release is Sept 1st. This is a guarantee. More will be posted on this version on or around this date.

Weve used modernbill since version 1, if their was a convertor for converting the data from modernbill to worldpay we would move in an instant. Modernbill advertises features that do not work properly for example Worldpay, it took one of their USERS to fix the module. They are always trying to out do themselves with features but never bother answering forum questions, or ensuring issues are fixed correctly.

Development on it has virtually slowed for the past 12 months to a crawl. No new real features, no new fixes for the stuff we have been crying for over a year to be fixed (nearly 2). Not only that it's bloated and slow loading.

I use them, and Am very happy!

Any automated solution for Windows 2003 & Plesk?

yes, all is god

Originally posted by mrdon
Isn't HELM just a CP? It doesn't automaticly setup the accounts based on a customers purchase does it?

Brandon


Helm is an automation software solution. It has in built billing and auto sign up facilities.

For me,

whmautopilot is the best, i dont have any problems so far :)

whmp is good, but i think lpanel has more potential. i would not realy mess with lpanel right now, as it is realy still in beta testing ( very buggy, but frank and them are working on it). try both lpanel and whmap for the free trial, and see which one you like best.

i have nothing but good things to say about whmautopilot. ive nerver even had an issue..runns very smooth

I'm looking a WHM autopilot because i am tired of ModernBill not doing what it is supposed too do (With out a lot of work to get it to work)