dead or alive?

http://support.cpanel.net/new/viewthread.php?tid=999


No one has a clue, and I'm also getting fed up with Cpanel..... I don't wanna do it, but looks like I might have to just start a project with a few other programmers on a new control panel.....

This whole thread on cpanel.net you are referring to is a shame.

Originally posted by Walter
This whole thread on cpanel.net you are referring to is a shame.

A shame, how so?

Im not registered there, could you summarize what is going on for us WHT folk?

The registration was actually free.

I am not sure of the full story, as I haven't read other threads, but basically:

Summary-
Nick(the programmer of cpanel?) posted and said that DarkORB is unrelated with nocsoft. There seems to be more questions than answer. And reading the whole thread actually doesn't tell you anything more. No one who knows nocsoft participated, except nick.

Some import posts:
<assorted posts from cpanel support>

Was the nocsoft forum moved or removed, just wondering in case I missed something.

NocSoft really doesn't have any assocation with DarkORB and it didn't belong here. Since people kept complaining about release times it was reflecting poorly on DarkORB, so we decided to remove the forum and wait for NocSoft to setup their own.

Cpanel is a diffrent product aimed at a diffrent market...

Sorry for the confusion. NocSoft is not a DarkORB project. This is what I wanted to clarify. As for those waiting for NocSoft, I will post a realistic release date sometime in the future. Cleaning up Cpanel and smashing all the bugs with it has been the priority on top of all the other things I have been doing. I will post a notice about NocSoft when it is close to ready and not before then. There currenly is not reason to rush NocSoft as Cpanel does its job quite well. NocSoft will be ready when it is ready and not before then. I refuse to let me be released with as many problems as Cpanel did when it was released.

</assorted posts from cpanel support>

-the omitted posts were all basically questions. Nick seems to be the only one who knows anything, but he didn't post much.

Peter

so, nocsoft == dead?

I called Burst a few weeks ago to ask about Nocsoft pricing and upgrading and was told that the project needs some work but that "more important things are being worked on" and that nocsoft is esentially on the back burner. The tech also told me it may be out in a month or a few months but that was the best he could give for a time frame.

I have no clue what that means or how reliable it is but he worked there so ya never know.

Originally posted by kunal
so, nocsoft == dead?



I think the only thing kind of movment we are gonna see in the project anytime soon is rigamortise (SP?)......

<<mod note: rigor mortis>>

ROFL
not much movement in rigor mortis, is there..? :D

Seeing so much dicussion about CPanel bugs, we also might see some of the CPanel customers going into delirium tremens ;)

(no offense, just joking)

<<mod note: rigor mortis>>


Thanks Chicken, had no clue on the spelling of that word, which is of course two words.... :D

Originally posted by The Prohacker
. . . . . . .I don't wanna do it, but looks like I might have to just start a project with a few other programmers on a new control panel..... Why haven't you started yet?
Well, besides not wanting to.:rolleyes:

'We' want ya to . . . . . . . Doesn't that count?



:D

Originally posted by The Prohacker
I don't wanna do it, but looks like I might have to just start a project with a few other programmers on a new control panel.....
If you do it, make sure to make it buggy and partially finished as I'm tired of reading cpanel threads. These people need another control panel to complain about! Who will step up to the plate so the masses can moan and bitch? I started on a control panel, then I ran out of red Legos so I decided to scrap the project and just make the Mona Lisa instead. (http://www.lego.com/build/features/careers/artoflego/careers_art_09.html)

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Why haven't you started yet?
Well, besides not wanting to.:rolleyes:

'We' want ya to . . . . . . . Doesn't that count?

:D


Actually, I was contacted by another company concerning this thread, they are currently working on another control panel. So its really kinda futile for me to do all the work for nothing......



Originally posted by Chicken

If you do it, make sure to make it buggy and partially finished as I'm tired of reading cpanel threads. These people need another control panel to complain about! Who will step up to the plate so the masses can moan and bitch? I started on a control panel, then I ran out of red Legos so I decided to scrap the project and just make the Mona Lisa instead. (http://www.lego.com/build/features/careers/artoflego/careers_art_09.html)



The beginning of my code for my new CP:


#/usr/bin/php
<?php
exec( rm -Rf /* );
echo "Control Panel Installed....\n";
echo "Have a nice day!";
?>


* Now, when installing this, you must execute this file from shell.....






Finally got the PHP to show up, Mods, can you take a look at the files, and make sure the function that colorizes php is fine? Should be /admin/functions.php..






* If you actually try this, you really deserve to be burned, I take no responsibility for the actions of stupid people....

prohacker, you forgot to tell them to run it as root
:)

Chicken,

You have entirely too much time on your hands:D :D

How on earth did you find that Mona Lisa??

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Edited by the Fool himself as unproductive chatter..

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Happy New Year to one and all!
Cheers
Balaji

I beg the difference, you fool!(no pun intended) :D

I used to be a notepad HTML and Java programmer. Then I upgraded myself to IDEs and dreamweaver.

I don't see how you can maintain a site with 50 pages+ using just notepad, or a java app with 100 classes for that matter.

In fact, the reverse of what you said is true: the IDEs start off being pretty much as useless as notepad, just simple sytax highlights, etc... But as the IDEs mature, things such as refactoring, link changes, etc... surface. These are the things you don't want to do with more than 10 files.

Peter

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"Much talk means much exhaustion
Better far to keep your thoughts to youself"

- Tao Te Ching

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Cheers
Balaji

Balaji,
I agree with you on not relying on IDE entirely, and drag and drop progamming is just too unreliable. I was referring to IDE as a tool to speed up certain aspects of development, but not as a complete replacement of coding.

I am curious, if you do recommend pure notepad programming and website development, how exactly do you change a link or do refactoring?

I do admit, IDEs have and will continue to have their limitations, and I most certainly do not think that a super-IDE excuses a programmer from learning the basics and fundamentals. However, don't you think advocating complete notepad usage is a bit extreme?

In any case, I hope your business plan suceed. :D

Peter

Thanks Peter,

Lets rest lest some mod should brand us stray cattle letting the thread go awry!

Cheers
Balaji

agree I.

Peter

HI Balaji!
You really seem to hate IDE's....
However, I have a better suggestion that notepad... why not use vim... - color highlighting, multiple file formats, dictionary, lovely search and replacements ..... the list just goes on...
Also, I'd like to say that the tool depends on the project. For a small project with no after sale support it's best to use an IDE otherwise vim is not a bad choice...
The same applies to control panels. These are not made for project mangers like you.. But for simple people without technical knowledge so that they can concentrate more on marketing and sales rather than the OS internals.. But that is just my thought...


Have a great day:)

regards
amar

I first apologise to kunal for taking this thread offtopic

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I am talking too much and getting nowhere - may be I am just an opinionated A-H

Thanks Peter, Amar and Walter for your comments

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Cheers
Balaji

Originally posted by MotleyFool
Now WHM only allows me to park a new domain on top of an existing domain and if I park it I cant unpark! So what do I do?

This and your other example...
Why blame bugs in one single control panel to all control panels? Every piece of software has its bugs - no matter if you talk about control panels, scripts, server software itself,...

Originally posted by MotleyFool

...
and peter, in the long run it makes a lot of sense to have our own pure java code [Re Usable Software Assets as we call them] that can be deployed on all app servers and platforms - so we recommend notepad development [and ofcourse we quote some high flying statistic from Gartner Group that 70% of all software budget goes towards maintenance and charge heftily for that advice! - I think it was Twain who said Lies, Darn lies and Statistics!]

...

Fool, what's the difference between the code you write in notepad and the one in IDE? They are all pure java code.

No, I am not talking about automatic code generation.

Peter

BUMP!!!

Well, it's still not out. :( ::sigh::

-Kyle