With even reputable hosting companies offering 20 Gig transfer for as low as $10/month...how much would they paying for the bandwidth? I would think it would be costing them > 50 cents/Gig.

Most hosts play the "number" game. If a client uses the full amount of bandwidth, then the company loses money. They figure most customers will use way below their quota's and this is how they make money.

-Shawn

I know a guy that is getting around .50 / GB but he has multiple GB connections coming into his NOC :).

What place has multiple GB connections coming in? Those are pretty big connections.

-Brendan

Some places are like 3-4 bucks a month, but if you prepay for more, you can get like 2.00 a month. Affordablecolo is 2.00 a month, not bad.. ;)

Some places offer outrageous bandwidth, like 300GB for 100-125 bucks. Those are usually cogent. Always read the fine print also. Be sure to know if it's 95%tile or actual. ;)

-Kyle

Kylecool, could you quickly tell me the difference between cogent, 95 percentile, and actual. Well, I think I know what actual means, and I've seen the terms cogent and 95 percentile thrown around, but I'm not sure exactly what they mean. Also, are cogent and 95 percentile the same thing? Thanks.

Does anyone use cogent that would be able to vouch for how good or bad the service is?

-Brendan

Originally posted by HRBrendan
Does anyone use cogent that would be able to vouch for how good or bad the service is?

-Brendan

Rackshack.com and cobalthost.com use cogent. Ask em ;)

Originally posted by HRBrendan
Does anyone use cogent that would be able to vouch for how good or bad the service is?

-Brendan

100% uptime so far, for coming up to 2 months. Throughput is excellent, ping response times are average.

Cogent is cheap bandwidth.

95%tile sucks. If you get a steady flow and a sudden rage of a lot just for like 2 hours, it can make your bandwidth payment high. It is a small sample of your usage and it sucks. ;)

-Kyle

Originally posted by Kylecool
Cogent is cheap bandwidth.

95%tile sucks. If you get a steady flow and a sudden rage of a lot just for like 2 hours, it can make your bandwidth payment high. It is a small sample of your usage and it sucks. ;)

-Kyle


95th percentile works on the basis that the top 5% of usage in the month is removed (in attempt to not charge outrageous prices for any spikes you may get), and you are charged for the remaining 95%. It can work out well if you have a continuous amount of transfer, but in other situations it can work against you.

Cogent use a different method of delivering the datatransfer, which we have found to be just as good, and in some cases quicker, meaning they can charge much more competitive prices than some other companies.

Regards
Matt

Yes,

Cogent these days seems pretty good. All in All, I hate 95%tile. LOL

-Kyle :)

My servers have been on Cogent. For general web surfing, I didn't notice any difference.

Speeds were excellent, and I didn't notice any latency.

Originally posted by driverdave
My servers have been on Cogent. For general web surfing, I didn't notice any difference.

Speeds were excellent, and I didn't notice any latency.

That's pretty good/cool! ;) It's just weird paying like a buck for a GB of bandwidth with Cogent, and like 2-4 bucks a GB at BurstNET.

-Kyle

i get it for $0.60 per GB from www.lightone.com

What is the max sustained transfer you can do out off of your cogent lines to another datacenter... like high end connection to high end conneciton kind of deal? This would kinda have to be answered by someone who physically has one of these connections. Do you have a file up that I could download off our ds3 as a test?

-Brendan

Cogent provides 100mbps access for $1000 / mo and 1000mbps for $10,000 / month. HOW can they do that? If they're so cheap and good as they mention on their website then how come everyone doesnt start a hosting company in their basement with a cogent connection? Can any one please explain?

Thanks,
Asher.

If you read the info on their site it kinda explains how it works, but im still suspicious... thats why I want to test things out :)

-Brendan

They 'claim' to be excellent ;) If they're so good or if i had proof of it, I would setup an NOC with 3 of these 100mbps connections. But i suppose the outcome wouldnt be so good as people dont seem to like cogent. Or am i wrong?

Btw how much does 100mbps actually translate into? (gb/month that is)

1mbps = ~320gb

I run a datacenter and pay a hell of a lot more for my bandwidth than $1000/100mbps... thats why Im asking around :) I wouldnt use them as a main connection but it might be an ok failover line.

-Brendan

Wow so 100mps would be 3200gb? thats a lot.

u sure about that? :)

-Brendan

Uh no im NOT sure thats why im asking ;) thanks for answering me uptil here, I appreciate the knowledge :D

I was referring to your math :)

-Brendan

Ooops made a tiny mistake and forgot the extra 0 ;)

32000 gb now that IS A LOT. :eek:

I run a datacenter and pay a hell of a lot more for my bandwidth than $1000/100mbps... thats why Im asking around I wouldnt use them as a main connection but it might be an ok failover line.

This whole discussion has been had here hundreds of times. Why don't you just do a search instead of ask the same questions. Headsurfer even did the download test already and has them posted on his thread.

Cogent isn't magic nor is it a silver bullet like everyone who first finds out about them thinks.

Originally posted by perweb
Hi friends,

Whatever costs cheap finally ends up quite expensive!!

Since 1993 I have tried many web hosting companies like:

superb.net (Canada)
hypermart.net (USA)
webstream.net (USA)
interland.com (USA)
webhosting.com (Canada)
webhostit.com (USA)

I am not saying they are bad companies or either not give a good web hosting service. I always wanted a fast upload, fast navigation, for my websites, none packets lost, nor servers down.

Finally I started following the monthly ranking reports of CNET and PC Magazine and tried HOSTWAY.COM and so far and since a year ago I have not had any problem and found this company very serious and reliable, with a fast upload and navigation time a promp support. By the way I am not a reseller or sales agent of Hostway. I am an antivirus developer.

If some downloads a Tracer sofware will find out that most of the web hosting company buys services from other bigger companies.

There are only a few companies that do not sell web hosting but bandwidth like:

UUNET
EXODUS
SPRINTLINK
ATT
IBM
Etc.

http://ratings.miq.net

That means you should make deals only with web hosting companies that work directly with some of the above real ISP wholesellers.

I suggest you to try some of my sites:

http://www.perantivirus.com
http://www.persystems.net
http://www.perweb.com
http://www.labibliaenlinea.com

I hope this suggestion must be useful for somebody.

Finally I wish all of you and your familiy A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2002.

Best regards from Peru

Jorge

Err... how exactly does your post relate to the current prices of bandwidth, or the quality of Cogent?

It doesn't. LOL. That's ok though Bud. Someone is just sharing their hosting experience here. ;)

-Kyle

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt



95th percentile works on the basis that the top 5% of usage in the month is removed (in attempt to not charge outrageous prices for any spikes you may get), and you are charged for the remaining 95%. It can work out well if you have a continuous amount of transfer, but in other situations it can work against you.

Cogent use a different method of delivering the datatransfer, which we have found to be just as good, and in some cases quicker, meaning they can charge much more competitive prices than some other companies.

Regards
Matt


Still don't understand this 95% issue. If I use 3GB per day, and I need to pay for 90GB. If sometimes I have 5GB per day, I need to pay more than the combined actual used transfer?