Hello,

I'm curious as to what the people here think are the most reliable rackmount servers. Eg Dell, Qsol, VA Linux, Sun etc.

the web host i have my dedicated server from uses www.racksaver.com nice uptime i have had :D

We've got 1U Dells and they seem to run baby run.

We have Dell 2450s, 2550, 1550s and 350 and they all run great!

What OS do you run on the them primarily? We've been pleased with Win2k Server.

Drew

99% of them are running on Windows 2000 Server.

So, Dell seem to be the way to go?
It needs to be very stable. I might do a little cluster to be sure.

Dell with a touch of redundancy and W2kAS is the way to go. The prices are reasonable and here in US you can have a tech from Dell on it in hours.

How hard is it to add a second cpu to a power edge PowerEdge 1550? They charge 2nd Processor Pentium III 1.13GHz w/512K Cache $799.

I have a dell PC and theres a vent that leads to the cpu lol not just a fan ontop of it. I hope the servers are not like that. And will Dell mount the servers for ya for cheap?

It *may* void the warranty, though I doubt it. The server design inside is nice and award winning. They'll supply any type of post you want. Mounting in the cabinet... I do not know. We do our own. :bawling: :D

Drew

I also recommend RackSaver. The produce some very high-quality servers.

Originally posted by drewnick
It *may* void the warranty, though I doubt it. The server design inside is nice and award winning. They'll supply any type of post you want. Mounting in the cabinet... I do not know. We do our own. :bawling: :D

Drew

Hmm, I might buy a few from dell just to see what you guys are all raiving out =) What kind of rails do I buy if I am coloing with Colo.com aka BJK Investments. I will try to get he cpu and ram some somewhere else to save some money. Will it be hard to install freebsd and plesk onto them remotely?

I have not had good luck with racksaver in the past, give qsol.com a try.

-Brendan

give qsol.com a try.

I agree. Great choice for inexpensive, IDE servers. Talk to Joe, he'll hook you up.

Nothing beats Dell. They are worth the extra $100 of so for top of the line servers.

I remember a while back when I contacted Qsol. Very quick replies, I think Joe was the one emailing me, he offered pretty cool discounts. $100+

Are they good servers though?

what i cant figure out is their raid config choices hehe, if i could figure that out maybe i would order a few servers from them :P (qsol.com)

What do ya mean by their choices?

Dont you customize it to what you want anyway?

or am I misunderstanding you ? :)
(I find myself doing that a lot)
:stickout

Call em up.

-Brendan

What's the difference between a PowerEdge 1550 and a PowerApp.web 120? I did the exact same settings and the Powerapp was 3 hundred more. Does it come with special software?

Too bad dell won't load Freebsd and plesk for you. Maybe they will change when demands for it become strong.

we use the poweredge 1150 and 2550, valinux's 1120, GW 6400's and some other homemade box.

:)

We have VA Linux, RackSaver, Penguin PC, and QSol boxes, Out of those 4 QSol is the best bang for the buck and we've never had a problem with a system from them.

-Brendan

Brendan,

Have you guys ever used Dell servers? Or are they mainly designed for the Windows platform?

Have VA been good?

Hi,

I have not used dell's myself. I hear they are good but they are very expensive. The VA linux servers we have had a few problems with, plus I dont think they are in the server selling business much anymore are they?

-Brendan

http://www.californiadigital.com/

They're still selling the VA servers, I wasn't sure, 'cause most people seemed to like them.

I'm after something very stable to use with server monitoring software.

Originally posted by NetXL
I remember a while back when I contacted Qsol. Very quick replies, I think Joe was the one emailing me, he offered pretty cool discounts. $100+

Are they good servers though? I've got half a dozen of their lower-end (sub $1,000) servers and they all have quality components inside. No problems. I also have to say that I don't think I've ever had better customer service than Qsol. They didn't have the right kind of mounting brackets in stock for my type of cabinet, so Joe (the head sales guy) had some custom made for me at a machine shop at no charge. I somehow lost the mounting screws for them, and he sent me a new batch via FedEx overnight, again at no cost to me. I also like dealing with Joe because he's not a "slick" sales person, he's just a regular fellow who loves computers and sincerely goes out of his way to make sure the customer is happy. And he was incredibly easy to get ahold of before and after the sale.

I like the Dell 1550s I bought (they have the coolest slide-out cases), but I had a *terrible* time with their sales and customer service department. That's another thread though.

Originally posted by Intelligent Hosting
I've got half a dozen of their lower-end (sub $1,000) servers and they all have quality components inside. No problems. I also have to say that I don't think I've ever had better customer service than Qsol. They didn't have the right kind of mounting brackets in stock for my type of cabinet, so Joe (the head sales guy) had some custom made for me at a machine shop at no charge. I somehow lost the mounting screws for them, and he sent me a new batch via FedEx overnight, again at no cost to me. I also like dealing with Joe because he's not a "slick" sales person, he's just a regular fellow who loves computers and sincerely goes out of his way to make sure the customer is happy. And he was incredibly easy to get ahold of before and after the sale.

I like the Dell 1550s I bought (they have the coolest slide-out cases), but I had a *terrible* time with their sales and customer service department. That's another thread though.

He's not your 'average Joe' *boom doom tish*
Okay, so i'm a sucky comedian :)

It looks like Qsol so far, or Dell. I think maybe a couple of clustered Qsol boxes should do the trick.

Originally posted by NetXL


He's not your 'average Joe' *boom doom tish*
Okay, so i'm a sucky comedian :)

It looks like Qsol so far, or Dell. I think maybe a couple of clustered Qsol boxes should do the trick.


How do you plan on clustering them? Like what kind of hardware and software? And will the cluster work like 1 single super server?

How hard is it to add a second cpu to a power edge PowerEdge 1550? They charge 2nd Processor Pentium III 1.13GHz w/512K Cache $799. Do yourself a favor and get the processor from Dell. They glue on this special added heat sink because of the form factor which if you install a regular processor, it will run too hot and set off the heat sensors. Just a tip!

Everything else you can get from a 3rd party.

He's not your 'average Joe' *boom doom tish*

Oh..that was painful. Warn me before you drop a dud like that. :)

If you buy over $50,000 per year from Dell (you can stretch the truth and say you will ;) ), they assign a dedicated account rep. I have had excellent support from Dell once you have someones you can always reach.

Originally posted by ClusterMania



How do you plan on clustering them? Like what kind of hardware and software? And will the cluster work like 1 single super server?

To be honest, I have no idea, i'll either read up on it or find someone that can :D

The idea i've had is to make it like a 'hot swappable' server :)
Or just load balancing, that should do the same kind of thing right? Except instead of kicking in when the other is down, it helps alll the time and also would kick in if the other one died?

Somethings that I will never understand.

Dell Is a hosting company also. therefore that makes then someone that can take revenue away.

So why buy there boxes. gee if you could get a box within 100 bucks that should be fine

Every server makes then more money than a regular box ( the margins are in the 12% -20% range for server boxes )

given that they might make a good box but there has to be others that are just as good.

just my .02 cents

-Sqposter / Michael

Because they make damn good boxes! :)

How does qsol's lease thing work? Is it like a car that you pay it for 48 months or whatever and then you have to buy out the server for more money? Or is it like a pay to own server where after the time is up, you keep it. If this is the case, can you pay more per month instead of stretching it for 48 months?

edit: I'm looking to get a new server in the late future but can't afford the whole thing :) I see dell has some financing options but if qsol has the same, then I may get it from qsol.

Originally posted by NetXL


To be honest, I have no idea, i'll either read up on it or find someone that can :D

The idea i've had is to make it like a 'hot swappable' server :)
Or just load balancing, that should do the same kind of thing right? Except instead of kicking in when the other is down, it helps alll the time and also would kick in if the other one died?


Cool, I am very fasinated by clustering. Hence my name =) Hotswappable server sounds cool. Yeah adding a server or two to help increase cpu speed is cool. Just still haven't found anyone who has it done sucessfully on a webserver.

Originally posted by ClusterMania
What's the difference between a PowerEdge 1550 and a PowerApp.web 120? I did the exact same settings and the Powerapp was 3 hundred more. Does it come with special software?

Too bad dell won't load Freebsd and plesk for you. Maybe they will change when demands for it become strong.

Poweredge = Tower Case
PowerApp = 1U Case

For the most part that is the only difference. The rest depends on what you choose for a configuration.

Take care,

Brian

Poweredge = Tower Case
PowerApp = 1U Case

For the most part that is the only difference. The rest depends on what you choose for a configuration.

This is wrong. Both are rackmounts. They are the same chassis. The difference is the PowerApp is configured for you. It also includes dell software for server management (kickstart, PowerApp Admin tool v2.0, etc...) and it also imbeds Windows Server 2000 if you get the windows solution.

PowerApp = software/hardware solution
PowerEdge = hardware solution

Originally posted by UmBillyCord


This is wrong. Both are rackmounts. They are the same chassis. The difference is the PowerApp is configured for you. It also includes dell software for server management (kickstart, PowerApp Admin tool v2.0, etc...) and it also imbeds Windows Server 2000 if you get the windows solution.

PowerApp = software/hardware solution
PowerEdge = hardware solution

Not completely. Most of the PowerEdges are Towers. (I thought they all were.) In the case that you choose a Poweredge with a Rack case then you are correct.

Take care,

Brian

For server I would reccomend IBM, those tualitan chips just own me ;)

But IBM tends to be expensive :(

Hey, their website has cool pics on it, though.

And their sales guys will take you out to lunch, unlike many other company's sales guys. :-)

Drew

Aloha
here is a link to a few pics of the inside of a dell app server model 100 they are nice boxes
http://www.hpsale.com/pics/
some of the CPU, the drive mount, overall, scsi card

Does anyone have experience with qsol and shipping the servers to europe. How much does it cost, can't find the price anywhere, and i don't think they do it for free.
And what about delivery time(including shipment)

Thanks