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Lightone Communications Inc
Special Dedicated Server Offering
Only for webhostingtalk.com members!

AMD Server Specs:
- 1.2 Ghz AMD Processor
- 1 Gigabyte Ram
- 40GB HDD
- 10/100 Integrated NIC
- IPs are Free (Based on ARIN Regulations)
- 100 GB MRTG Average Based
Or
- 300 GB 95th Percentile Bandwith transfer
- Your Choice of OS, FreeBSD or Redhat 7.2
- Webmin Control Panel

$125 per Month
$150 Setup

Intel Pentium Server Specs:
- 1 Ghz PIII
- 1 Gigabyte Ram
- 40GB HDD
- 10/100 Integrated NIC
- IPs are Free (Based on ARIN Regulations)
- 100 GB MRTG Average Based
Or
- 300 GB 95th Percentile Bandwith transfer
- Your Choice of OS, FreeBSD or Redhat 7.2
- Webmin Control Panel

$125 per Month
$200 Setup

Bandwith Information:
- All Bandwith is Cogent as primary and Yipes! as secondary
- The servers are in our Denver POP

Hardware Upgrades:
- Second 40GB HDD for $120.00 one time fee or $30/mo
- Additional 1GB Ram (Total of 2GB RAM) - $150 One time fees or $40/mo

Additional Bandwith:
- $15.00 per 10GB for MRTG or $10 per 30GB for 95th Percentile, discounts negotiable
- Additional 100GB MRTG/300GB 95th percentile for $100/mo

Important Information:
- Minimum One month required
- Customer Service available 24 hours a day
- Additional IPs available with justification
- Guaranteed Price Freeze
- Legal Adult Content Permitted
- IRCD, Shell, Illegal, Spam related services are strictly not allowed
- Reboots are free Monday-Friday, 9am to 5pm MST. 2 non-business hour reboots are free per month.

Ordering Information:
- Contact me via either PM or email.

Contact Information:
- ICQ: 131450962
- AIM: Bladened
- Email: chris@lightone.net
- Phone: (800) 789-9092
- Fax: (800) 789-9092

Other Information:
- Please expect a 1-3 day delay
- You can install your own control panels at no additional cost
- Onsite Technician available for $75/hour; 30 minute minimum

You can PING the following IP to test the speed:
- 66.28.54.20

Sorry, the server was down, not cogent. Should be fine now.

We don't have hardly any cogent problems, as other carriers do, because we are in the Cogent Denver POP. They are in a carrier-neutral facility, so it made it easy for us to get bandwidth through them and Yipes.

95th percentile questions:
Out of all your bandwidth usage in a one-month time, you take off the top %5 used and average the rest. This allows you to burst high at times and be lower at others.

Reboots:
Reboots are available 24hours a day. If you exceed 2 reboots a month of non-business hours, we will charge you $10 for the first 3 and $20 after that.

Support:
I saw a forum opened that has some complaints about us not answering emails or PMs. We have been answering them with in a few hours mostly, so many of them. Sorry if we missed yours. :)

Control panel:
To compete with some other providers, we have developed a control panel for colocation customers which should be complete by January 10th (delayed). I am interested in hearing some suggestions about what admins would like to see in it. Post or PM us.

If anyone wants h-sphere, $550.00 setup fee (100 accounts), but we can break that up over months for you. This will be YOURS if you leave us.

IRC Questions:
We just want our customers to be happy with the service we provide and not attracking DoS attacks is part of that. IRC attracks DoS no matter what anyone says. :)

Remote reboot:
If you want a account on our APC it will cost you $10/mo. You will be able to instantly reboot your machine at any time.

sounds nice, but could someone expain to me:
- 300 GB 95th Percentile Bandwith transfer

what does 95th Percentile Bandwith mean?

95th percentile bills on how high your burst so lets say during one day a month you have a lot of visitors at one time and your transfer hits 2mbps your going to be paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars in overage fees, even though you may have only used actually say 100gigs the whole month

How do I know, if it is hits 2 mbit?

if there is a 100 mbit line that means, that I do not have to hit 95 mbit/sec transfer at ne day?

Prices are highly competitive, but...

I can not ping your IP.
Seems that Cogentco still has some glitches.

well i was looking at Rack Shack until I saw this!I don't know if I can trust you guys though.Rack Shack has 2,000 people.Sounds like a good deal, but I need to talk to Acer.

Originally posted by cbaker17
95th percentile bills on how high your burst so lets say during one day a month you have a lot of visitors at one time and your transfer hits 2mbps your going to be paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars in overage fees, even though you may have only used actually say 100gigs the whole month


That's true if that "one time" doesn't fall into the top 5%. :D

Originally posted by dArT
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dArT, I highly recommend you read the rules of this forum. You are not allowed to flame perfectly valid posts such as this, and others that I have seen. Nor are you allowed to bitch in competitors threads, and offer to design templates for less.

It's people like you offering hosting for $2 per month that is "a bunch of crap".

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I cant see how it is crap in any way

Sounds like a sweet deal to me

Balaji

Originally posted by dArT
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What?
What is?

I think his offer is valid and good one.

Except...

- Reboots are free Monday-Friday, 9am to 5pm MST. 2 non-business hour reboots are free per month.
Servers don't go down on schedule.
You may end up paying more for tech support to reboot than
paying for hosting.

Hi.

ref reboots, can you install remote - reboot? if yes price to install and per month.

thank you

Originally posted by indaloman
Hi.

ref reboots, can you install remote - reboot? if yes price to install and per month.

thank you

Yeah, if host do not provide 24/7/365 onsite tech, having a
remote reboot is very good idea:D

hehe forget what i said cuz now we are gonna use him as our host.

im an idiot.

Originally posted by dArT
hehe forget what i said cuz now we are gonna use him as our host.

im an idiot.

Maybe an apology wouldn't be out of place?

yeah ok.

Sorry Lightone.i just thought it wasnt possible to offer that kind of service for so cheap.Now that we are gonna host with you, I hope you will forget this and we can be friends.:beer:

Seems like rackshack raised the monthly price on the same specs for ensim to $149/mo and for plesk to $169/mo, not to forget the hefty $499 setup fees.

I think I am gonna signup with lightone.net in 2-3 days, I will post my experiences and let you all know how it was.

Originally posted by VarunShoor
Seems like rackshack raised the monthly price on the same specs for ensim to $149/mo and for plesk to $169/mo, not to forget the hefty $499 setup fees.

I think I am gonna signup with lightone.net in 2-3 days, I will post my experiences and let you all know how it was.

VarunShoor, by all means, please do share your experience.

Thanks,

Peter

actually, i would like to know how it goes, as we are getting ready to host with Lightone

Yes, I'm also interested in getting one of these servers, please tell us if they are a good company.

We have already started the sign up process. So far its very good. They have two pipes, one as a back up. From what i am told they are connected right into the devner cogent pipe.

The service contract we got is very good, leaves plenty of room to be flexible, you aren't stuck to anything.

So far everything is good.

Thanks,

Please keep us updated.

Peter

any chance of a whm / cpanel combo?

Yeah, I'd also like to know the pricing for installing H-Sphere, Plesk, or WHM/CPanel.

I would also like pricing for this including cpanel/whm :)

Originally posted by TimPD
I have a look dedicated deal I will be offering soon. :). I will annouce it here!.
You know you are not supposed to advertise your stuff in other peoples threads.

anyhows, till now support has been ok, not very good not bad either, we opted in for a second hard drive and it still hasnt arrived and AFAIK the promised setup time for a server is over, but I guess the second HDD doesnt come under the deadline, So I cant really say anything else about the connectivity and other stuff. I will keep you updated on this.

IRCD, Shell, Illegal, Spam related services are strictly not allowed

I can agree with the Illegal and Spam stuff, but shouldn't we be allowed to run an ircd if we want to on our own server? I'm assuming we'd get full root access.

I have heard that ircd promotes hacking and DoS attacks. (Not sure on these though, maybe other experts can comment?)

Even so, I think it should still be allowed for dedicated clients.

PEter

IRC-related anything will almost inevitably bring about DoS attacks. Unless they're running a server full of nuns or something. :D

We have completed the signup process, and the server is up now.

One very sexy machine, backed by two very sexy pipes.

I appreciate the support at lightone. The support was excellent, never felt out of the loop.

nameserver and domains are transferring right now.. as soon as they are setup ill post the links.

Thank You

IRC servers most definatly attract DoS's and DDoS's. If you look at EFNet (Erris Free Network, without question the BEST irc network out there), the majority of the servers have suffered at least 5 major attacks (1gbps+) within the last year. The other problem with IRC servers is the fact that when a DoS occurs, people seem to keep the DoS going for hours, days, or weeks on end. EFNet requires dual multihomed t3 minimum (it might be oc3, i can't remember) with full access to uplink filters as a result of the "violent" nature of running IRC servers. Hope that clears some stuff up, obviously most small networks dont have this type/extent of a problem, but hey =)

BTW. I'm envious of lightone, all the fury over this thread must be fairly beneficial to his business see'ing as how it's had over 2200 views so far =)

Originally posted by Varun Shoor
Seems like rackshack raised the monthly price on the same specs for ensim to $149/mo and for plesk to $169/mo, not to forget the hefty $499 setup fees.

I think I am gonna signup with lightone.net in 2-3 days, I will post my experiences and let you all know how it was.
I don't know if you're signed up or not yet but your site seems to be timing out.

I am against going with these people, because they failed to answer any questions I had. Even though I emailed them numerous times and tried icq to no avail

stupid question...
what is h-sphere, and where can i find out more about it?

H-Sphere is a scalable multiserver webhosting control panel, which provides complete hosting automation for Linux, BSD & Win2000 platforms, is easy to use, and has extensive user interface, billing solution, and integrated trouble tickets system.
Cut from their website : http://psoft.net/

I was gonna say "its a control panel" .. but their quote sounded better.

There is also a number of threads in the other forums (Hosting Software and Control Panels & Dedicated Hosting) about it as well.

Originally posted by Myacen
I am against going with these people, because they failed to answer any questions I had. Even though I emailed them numerous times and tried icq to no avail

I dont know about you but my queries have been answered/solved in around 2 hours max.

My server is up and running and connectivity seems good, I am in the process of moving my sites over to it now, the only problem I have experienced till now is the delay in second hard disk, thats about it.

I would recommend these guys for your basic server needs as till now I have found them better than rackshack in terms of support, pricing (cant say anything about connectivity), but I can give a "true" & "complete" answer only after couple of weeks :)

UPDATE: I too was unable to contact him via ICQ but then he told me that he is always in invisible mode, so you should send him a message even when he shows in offline mode... use AIM :D

Varun Shoor,
Thanks for the report, please keep them coming :)

How is the connectivity? How high can it burst? Ping time?

Thanks,

Peter

I'm still confused about how bandwidth is measured?

"- 100 GB MRTG Average Based
Or
- 300 GB 95th Percentile Bandwith transfer"

...So, if I choose the lower transfer package "100 GB MRTG Average Based" then I will be sure to only be charged for "actual data transfer" even if there are some times where the transfer has high bursts? It seems to me that just by the huge difference in the numbers between the MRTG and 95th Percentile choice that you present, that the MRTG method must be a hell of a lot more favorable to the customer in the way it measures bandwidth. Could you please explain this some more. Thanks

...So, if I choose the lower transfer package "100 GB MRTG Average Based" then I will be sure to only be charged for "actual data transfer" even if there are some times where the transfer has high bursts? It seems to me that just by the huge difference in the numbers between the MRTG and 95th Percentile choice that you present, that the MRTG method must be a hell of a lot more favorable to the customer in the way it measures bandwidth. Could you please explain this some more. Thanks

Regardless of what anyone says:

MRTG Average Monthly = Actual bandwidth usage.

95th% = Max amount of bandwidth you need (mainly for ISPs) (in general, not always, double your average monthly to get your 95th% amount)

Did we ever get an answer on the cp / wht option?

What's up with the IP...Can't ping it...

Originally posted by porcupine
IRC servers most definatly attract DoS's and DDoS's. If you look at EFNet (Erris Free Network, without question the BEST irc network out there), the majority of the servers have suffered at least 5 major attacks (1gbps+) within the last year. The other problem with IRC servers is the fact that when a DoS occurs, people seem to keep the DoS going for hours, days, or weeks on end. EFNet requires dual multihomed t3 minimum (it might be oc3, i can't remember) with full access to uplink filters as a result of the "violent" nature of running IRC servers. Hope that clears some stuff up, obviously most small networks dont have this type/extent of a problem, but hey =)

BTW. I'm envious of lightone, all the fury over this thread must be fairly beneficial to his business see'ing as how it's had over 2200 views so far =)

You forget that some of us use IRC in a closed business environment to host meetings with access only for invited guests (using passwords). After hosting a year I never had a single problem.

I think they need to specify PUBLIC IRC or PRIVATE IRC. There is a big big difference.

madsere: yes, some people will use IRC for business related issues. But remember this:

1. A lot of companies will use a IRCD for their technical support, and if someone gets pissed off at the company, they will down the IRCD to kill the technical support (i see that often will shellhosting companies).

2. A lot of people will make a IRCD and not link it to anything, so in a way that could be interpereted as private...... except they will try to get users to their network, and how? By spam of course, mass msg's, floods, onjoin msg's, etc. And that will attract a LOT of DoS.

Personally i find most businesses that are not related to IRC will not use a IRC server as a medium, they typically seem to find another way, like message boards, ICQ, E-mail, AIM, etc.

Has anyone go their server yet?

yep, its doing good. I also got a second 40gb hard drive :D

Support has been very good, the only problem till now was the delay in the second hdd.

It's people like you offering hosting for $2 per month that is "a bunch of crap".

Excuse me!

I got the server up, thanks to Chris and the support at lightone. they are great people. Sorry for being slow, i was on a virtual host before all the coding changes took a while.

Ok well my first site on the server is
http://www.endya.com

hope this goes to show ya, lightone works.
I enjoy watching how much faster the site functions compared to a vhost.

hehe

Good Luck Guys.
if you have any questions u can PM me and i will reply.

thank You
catchthree

I have contacted Chris by PM and email, but after replying 1-2 messages, he no longer replied me back although I said I have interest to use his service, I just wonder he select which customer he'd like to serve. :rolleyes: :(

Good luck!


Kevin

Ok, i finally got an reply from Chris again, hopefully, I would setup 1 server with him later :)

... with LightOne Communications:
It is up since a week... have done some installations... thanx to Chris from support for fixing my screw-ups :D

Well, since now... lightning fast, 100% uptime and looking VERY good... I really do NOT miss RackShack at all :D :D

For the time beeing I can recommend LightOne fully. Will keep you updated.

My IP: 66.28.54.166

Sharefile:

Hehe, something funny i find when i read these boards. People like rackshack pricing, but not services, they bitch about reliability, etc. and the one thing that i notice about rackshack is, it's the most well known cogent carrier around here (from what i see). Now, you move to lightone, and you're loving it even though it's cogent (i see sooooo many people bitching about cogent as a carrier). I've been pinging cogent for about a week now (5 servers, randomly, i nmapped some of their ip space to find appropriate servers), and i've seen 0.000% downtime.....


This is an extreme relief as we are starting up a colocation facility based on cogent.... From what i can see, cogent is earning its reputation (around here) as unreliable, not because of its service, because of the carriers offering it.

Yes I agree. Cogent is not so bad as people make it look. They had some problems in the past and now most ppl. use it as an excuse for their own mistakes.

As to RS I am not unsatisfied by their up/downtime (although it's not the best either) but by their TOTAL unflexibility, their absolutely UNPERSONAL communication with the client and their totally insufficient technical support.

I have/had a RaQ with them for about a year, I had to issue >200 Trouble Tickets (!) and the RaQ was ReOSed 4 times (the ultimate and only REAL problem solving solution RS offers to be honest).

I want to point out though that I met VERY nice people in the RS tech support. A few of them do a VERY good job and the rest alt least TRIES to help. It was fun having that RaQ with them but unfortunately it was ONLY fun.
If I have had any SERIOUS site on that RaQ I would have had an even more serous problem :(

When you say total unflexibility, in what sense do you mean? These are all great tips BTW so I thank you (on how the smaller business can beat something as big and evil as rackshack). BTW if you don't mind my asking, why so many trouble tickets?

Originally posted by porcupine
i notice about rackshack is, it's the most well known cogent carrier around here (from what i see).


RS hasn't had Cogent turned on for some time now. They plan on turning the link back on soon but they've been non-cogent for awhile.

Actually rastoma, according to their network graphs it has been on. I was checking their page on friday or saturday (can't remember which) and from the network graph one of their oc3's dropped and the cogent pipe usage flew up, they must be using it as a backup. Apart from rackshack though, i can't think of who would be giving cogent a bad name.... can you?

Originally posted by porcupine
Actually rastoma, according to their network graphs it has been on. I was checking their page on friday or saturday (can't remember which) and from the network graph one of their oc3's dropped and the cogent pipe usage flew up, they must be using it as a backup. Apart from rackshack though, i can't think of who would be giving cogent a bad name.... can you?

Ahh.. ok.. I knew it was coming soon but can't remember when. According to this post it just came back online Friday (day before yesterday):

http://forum.rackshack.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2589

Ok well my first site on the server is
http://www.endya.com

hope this goes to show ya, lightone works.
I enjoy watching how much faster the site functions compared to a vhost.


Just tried to visit your site and check out the "speed" at which lightone serves up your site.

All I got was the "white screen of death". :confused:

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

Is this lightone, or you? Seems like you might need to revise your 100% uptime statistic.

I went to his site right now and I get white screen too but MY server is up. So it is HIM and NOT LightOne ;)

Sorry guys,

the white screen of death, heh. Making some last minute changes.

You know how it is. It should be up in a few hrs. Hope you get to see it then.

Later.

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