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MrLister
12-24-2001, 12:24 PM
If you need PHP work done I'd like you to consider me. I have been programming for about 7 or 8 years now and have been programming in PHP for about 4 or 5. I know quite a bit about PHP and can create almost anything you can think of. I have worked on many sites before as well as the latest one my own. http://www.echolima.com. In that site there is also a members section with hand coded ticket support that almost surpasses any other ticket support out there. My rates are very inexpensive so even if you have a small project don't hesitate to e-mail me.

If you're interested e-mail me at milun@echolima.com

Thank You

netsolutions
12-24-2001, 12:47 PM
He's good. He's really good. He programmed our whole members section.

ho247
12-24-2001, 01:31 PM
How inexpensive are your rates? :)

ScottD
12-24-2001, 03:03 PM
PHP hasn't existed for 7 or 8 years! :eek:

I mean no slander, I once interviewed a guy who said he had 15 years of web experience. I understand how it seems this stuff has been around that long!

creid
12-24-2001, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by DizixCom
PHP hasn't existed for 7 or 8 years! :eek:

I mean no slander, I once interviewed a guy who said he had 15 years of web experience. I understand how it seems this stuff has been around that long!

Ummm
DizixCom Try reading the PHP Manual:
PHP was conceived sometime in the fall of 1994 by Rasmus Lerdorf. Early non-released versions were used on his home page to keep track of who was looking at his online resume. The first version used by others was available sometime in early 1995 and was known as the Personal Home Page Tools.
Source=phpbuilder.com
1995+7=2002!

Chris

ScottD
12-24-2001, 04:24 PM
Look at todays date. Today != 2002, eh? Max could be 5 to 6 years.

cimshimy
12-24-2001, 05:43 PM
Any of you actually tried to use early versions of PHP? It's practically useless for anything PHP is used for today; more of an extension on SSI than a language comparable to Perl.

So if he says he's been using PHP for that long (which I agree is a stretch), look at what he was using for those first few years. Nothing to be overly proud of.


Andrew

mdrussell
12-24-2001, 06:23 PM
Can we see some examples of your work? Considering you have been 'programming in PHP for 7 or 8 years', surely you must have created some other scrips apart from the echolima members section - and besides, we can't see that anyway as it's password protected.

Nice copy of the Plesk login button btw.

creid
12-24-2001, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by DizixCom
Look at todays date. Today != 2002, eh? Max could be 5 to 6 years.

Its 2002 in a couple days come on DizixCom!:D

Chris

ScottD
12-24-2001, 08:54 PM
Yeah yeah, but in order for it to be 7 or 8 years that means the public release of PHP had to be at the very beginning of 1995, and that he was using it then. I guess my whole point is really that this stuff that is so new seems like it has been a part of our lives for a really really long time for some reason.

Sorry to have bugged anyone with my comparison, but it is impossible to have 7 to 8 years of experience in something that hasn't been around that long! :confused:

Scott

airtime166
12-24-2001, 09:05 PM
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Nice copy of the Plesk login button btw. [/B]



nice eyes :eek:



it is plesk log in button lol-----also have anyone look at his hosting plans wow--- makes it hard for the real hosting company , he wont be around for long

no punt intended :D

MrLister
12-24-2001, 09:13 PM
Before php i was very familiar with c++, perl and those. The languages are very similar so as soon as PHP came out I had a upper hand.

Originally posted by DizixCom
PHP hasn't existed for 7 or 8 years! :eek:

I mean no slander, I once interviewed a guy who said he had 15 years of web experience. I understand how it seems this stuff has been around that long!

MrLister
12-24-2001, 09:14 PM
.. You haven't been in hosting much have you? Most clients don't use up more then 2GB bandwidth so our plans have become more flexible. Also how is this relevant to the topic of the thread?
Originally posted by airtime166




nice eyes :eek:



it is plesk log in button lol-----also have anyone look at his hosting plans wow--- makes it hard for the real hosting company , he wont be around for long

no punt intended :D

MrLister
12-24-2001, 09:17 PM
This thread is not for arguing with me on how long I've been using PHP. How would you know for how long. Those are accusations and what gives you the right to tell me my PHP abilities when you have not seen any of my work.

Originally posted by cimshimy
Any of you actually tried to use early versions of PHP? It's practically useless for anything PHP is used for today; more of an extension on SSI than a language comparable to Perl.

So if he says he's been using PHP for that long (which I agree is a stretch), look at what he was using for those first few years. Nothing to be overly proud of.


Andrew

MrLister
12-24-2001, 09:19 PM
I show my work to people who are interested. I see no point why you and others have to come and argue about my abilities and make accusations. And since we are using Plesk as a control panel why not use it in the members section.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Can we see some examples of your work? Considering you have been 'programming in PHP for 7 or 8 years', surely you must have created some other scrips apart from the echolima members section - and besides, we can't see that anyway as it's password protected.

Nice copy of the Plesk login button btw.

Relyc
12-24-2001, 09:36 PM
How much would a support ticket system cost?


I jell pricas srpski?


-Aron

northernscum
12-24-2001, 10:07 PM
Don't want to stoke the mob, but ppl should realize that when they solicit employment and casually throw out suspect qualifications, they should be prepared to back themselves up.

The "point" is that 7-8 years PHP exp. comment (which incidentally places you neck and neck with Rasmus Lerdorf himself) makes you look like a liar, and I suspect there aren't too many employers who are interested in that particular skill.

Originally posted by MrLister
And since we are using Plesk as a control panel why not use it in the members section.
Oh my god. Anyone have a good link defining copyright infringement?

fusioncom
12-24-2001, 10:10 PM
I just realized he has posted the same thing at the sitepoint forums! LOL. http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43802 :D

northernscum
12-24-2001, 10:20 PM
I hope he hasn't posted it on phpbuilder. Talk about online crucifixion...

MrLister
12-25-2001, 01:09 AM
Are you always like this or are you just the grinch during christmas-eve :)

Originally posted by northernscum
I hope he hasn't posted it on phpbuilder. Talk about online crucifixion...

MrLister
12-25-2001, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by northernscum
Don't want to stoke the mob, but ppl should realize that when they solicit employment and casually throw out suspect qualifications, they should be prepared to back themselves up.

The "point" is that 7-8 years PHP exp. comment (which incidentally places you neck and neck with Rasmus Lerdorf himself) makes you look like a liar, and I suspect there aren't too many employers who are interested in that particular skill.


Oh my god. Anyone have a good link defining copyright infringement?
I already asked Plesk about the buttons.... I don't see how your nose exactly fits into our business.

sayap
12-25-2001, 03:39 AM
guys.. what's wrong with all of you...


I have been programming for about 7 or 8 years now and have been programming in PHP for about 4 or 5.

cimshimy
12-25-2001, 04:14 AM
This thread is not for arguing with me on how long I've been using PHP. How would you know for how long. Those are accusations and what gives you the right to tell me my PHP abilities when you have not seen any of my work.Exactly where did I tell you your PHP abilities?

guys.. what's wrong with all of you...He edited the post...


Andrew

JustinK
12-25-2001, 04:24 AM
<edited> erg. My eyes are dead... n/m

mdrussell
12-25-2001, 09:02 AM
People may be interested if you post examples of your work.

The fact that you use Plesk doesn't mean you can infringe the copyright.

Expect to be flamed if you make false statements regarding your abilities / experience.

ckpeter
12-25-2001, 01:44 PM
People, give this guy a break!

OK, maybe he didn't do the math right(maybe he was counting in binary :')

Valid concern can be raised, but don't be excessive. Put yourself in his place, would you like your job request be filled with negative posts?

Peter

cimshimy
12-25-2001, 02:20 PM
Valid concern can be raised, but don't be excessive. Put yourself in his place, would you like your job request be filled with negative posts?I'd feel like I deserved it if I blatantly lied.


Andrew

ckpeter
12-25-2001, 02:50 PM
You are missing my point.

I am merely suggest that we should all hold a friendily and open attitude. I am not defending him. Besides, I have yet to see evidence that he intentionally lied.

Peter

mdrussell
12-25-2001, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by ckpeter
You are missing my point.

I am merely suggest that we should all hold a friendily and open attitude. I am not defending him. Besides, I have yet to see evidence that he intentionally lied.

Peter

If you haven't seen any evidence that he intentionally lied, then read this whole thread again.

My skepticism builds up as he seemingly refuses to post examples of his working, barring work we cannot see. Obviously this will bias my attitude towards him.

I merely pointed out the fact that they had infringed Plesk's copyright by using their login button, which does not, obviously, look good when trying to promote your own services.

ckpeter
12-25-2001, 08:29 PM
Didn't he made the member section of someone's website?

Anyway, it wasn't not my intention to defend him or argue with anyone.

Gone I am,

Peter

DigitalXWeb
12-25-2001, 09:03 PM
I have contacted MrLister in regards to the plesk script he is selling. He replied to me stating he would be putting up a demo for it due to the requests to do so. I wont make judgement on someone until I see all the facts, nor will I take sides.

Perhaps he maybe stretched the truth a little or did not clarify himself correctly. If he indeed can provide a working demo of the script he has either done one of the following. Is selling a script someone else created for him, or he coded it himself.

Due to the nature of the script in question, I can understand why it might not be possible to give out specific URL's of anyone using this currently (besides his Co.) However if anyone has already bought this script and is using it, I would see no harm in contacting them through e-mail to verify this fact.

One thing I can vouche for is that cimshimy is a valid coder at reasonable prices. He has already done a small job for me in the past that worked 100% for a very reasonable price. If MrLister can provide me a working demo or an email addy of someone using this currently, I would give him the thumbs up also.

I think a working demo would put an end to alot of questions appearing in this thread, so I will await patiently until one is provided.

Just my 2 cents in the matter.:)

northernscum
12-26-2001, 12:08 AM
Personally, I have no problems believing MrLister knows some PHP or that he wrote echolima's member section. What I find objectionable, is the way he handled the criticism.

When one solicits for work on a forum, essentially anyone who looks upon the thread becomes a potential employer. If an interviewer were to catch you in a lie, hopefully, you'd admit your mistake and demonstrate some semblance of dignity.

How did MrLister respond? With incredibly lame statements like "I don't see the point in making accusations" or "I don't see where your nose fits into our business" (paraphrasing), and surreptitiously editing his original post, without any explanation, and thus throwing off the clarity of the entire thread.

I'm inclined to think his experience is measured in 4-5 months rather than years, only because of his obvious amendments, the vagueness in the timeframes and the lack of working examples he's offered us. I've been working with PHP since the fall of '98 and have written approx. 35 separate apps. Surely he, as a self-proclaimed PHP expert, should offer some more examples of his work and let his code do the talking.

MrLister
12-26-2001, 12:46 PM
He edited the post...
Did you leave me any other choice? I had to edit it to prevent people like you from posting all these assumptions all day long.

MrLister
12-26-2001, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by northernscum
Personally, I have no problems believing MrLister knows some PHP or that he wrote echolima's member section. What I find objectionable, is the way he handled the criticism.

When one solicits for work on a forum, essentially anyone who looks upon the thread becomes a potential employer. If an interviewer were to catch you in a lie, hopefully, you'd admit your mistake and demonstrate some semblance of dignity.

How did MrLister respond? With incredibly lame statements like "I don't see the point in making accusations" or "I don't see where your nose fits into our business" (paraphrasing), and surreptitiously editing his original post, without any explanation, and thus throwing off the clarity of the entire thread.

I'm inclined to think his experience is measured in 4-5 months rather than years, only because of his obvious amendments, the vagueness in the timeframes and the lack of working examples he's offered us. I've been working with PHP since the fall of '98 and have written approx. 35 separate apps. Surely he, as a self-proclaimed PHP expert, should offer some more examples of his work and let his code do the talking.

Well I was trying to make a thread to advertise my skills and have people who want PHP done contact me but how do I do that when there's 50 people who have nothing better to do but post negative things in the thread. Do you really think I'll be getting anybody contacting me now?

And my portfolio is quite thick. I have made many smaller scripts in the past and am currently working on big ones. Including a gaming website with clan management and another major script that I want to keep secret until it's done. The gaming site I have been working on for almost over a year. It's features match gamespot and more. (full system membership, points gaining and reedoming, clan leaders can sign up for their own page plus easy management (support 35 different games). Each game has different features such as Utopia will convert the CB results into a easy readable document and store it in the database where later they can find targets by just putting in specifications.) This script is over 35 files each well over 1000 lines. I don't personally care if you guys think I don't know any PHP or know some or lots but if you're accusing me of lying and don't want me to post that i've been programming for that long wouldn't a PM be easier to tell me to change it or at least let me prove myself somehow rather then ruining this thread?

Chicken
12-26-2001, 01:22 PM
While people certainly could have been a bit more polite about asking questions (about things they thought didn't make sense, or wereen't right), simply answering the questions would have been better. Anywhoooo... thread closed.