Hi Guys

We are lookig to purchase one of these great Cisco routers, but there seem to be 3 models, NPE-300, NPE-400 and NSE-1.

Anyody have any comments regarding all or any of the 3 .. or the advantages of each one over the others .. :)

thank you

Im prob. wrong here carlos, as im in no way technical with routers :) but i blieve the 3 different models core difference is their processor/engine... ill check with one of my techs to verify and im you

The NPE-300 is at it's end of sale and Cisco will no longer sell it. The recommended upgrade path for the NPE-300 is the NPE-400. This network processing engine has a higher sustained throughput rate, offering higher performance for the same price. The NPE-400 uses a high-performance 350 MHz RM7000A RISC processor, compared with the 263-MHz R7000 RISC processor of the NPE-300—a 33 percent increase in processing power. In addition, the NPE-400 supports additional SDRAM memory capacity.

You can read more at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/ifaa/prossor/index.shtml

Are you buying used? If not, then 1) ask your Cisco sales rep for information, that's their job :) and 2) consider buying a Juniper M5 instead. You'll get a much much more powerful router with all sorts of wire-speed capability, for about the same price.

Kevin

Originally posted by cbaker17
Im prob. wrong here carlos, as im in no way technical with routers :) but i blieve the 3 different models core difference is their processor/engine... ill check with one of my techs to verify and im you

Yes they are .. I am sorry, I should have been more specific .. :) (the 7206 is nothing more than a box of tin .. hehe)

Originally posted by sigma
Are you buying used? If not, then 1) ask your Cisco sales rep for information, that's their job :) and 2) consider buying a Juniper M5 instead. You'll get a much much more powerful router with all sorts of wire-speed capability, for about the same price.

Kevin

Do you have any experience with Juniper M5 ? .. my problem with going away from cisco on a router is support and availability in case somethign goes wrong ..

Originally posted by CRego3D

Do you have any experience with Juniper M5 ? .. my problem with going away from cisco on a router is support and availability in case somethign goes wrong ..

We use the M20's, but all of the Juniper routers run the same software and use similar parts. Support is excellent, and Juniper has a significant percentage of the high-end router market, although it's leveled off recently.

Assuming you just need point-to-point circuits and Ethernet, you'll get wire-speed performance from the Juniper, with a straightforward, logical command language. It even runs FreeBSD as its underlying OS.

A 7206VXR might comfortably run one OC-3c. The M5 can run a dozen of them at wire-speed (although this would potentially exceed the 1000Mbps Gigabit for the fourth slot). The M20 gives more flexibility and redundancy features, though.

http://www.juniper.net/
http://www.juniper.net/products/m5-m10-l2.html

Kevin

I second Juniper stuff, their equipment is top notch and so are their techs.

Originally posted by RackMy.com
I second Juniper stuff, their equipment is top notch and so are their techs.

Plus their OS is built on a modified BSD kernel :), what more could you want out of life.

I still prefer Cisco to Juniper, but that probably has more to do with the fact that I have more experience with them, than with Junipers.

Wonderfull

I am not 100% sure about the cisco guear yet, I was plannign in getting a 4006 Switch, but might go with a extreme networks Alpine instead (they look sweet, and all good reviews so far) .. as for Juniper .. be able to run at wire speed, that is impressive (the things I didn't know) .. but I am unable to find a pricesheet wor the M5 or M10 anywhere :)

Originally posted by CRego3D
.. as for Juniper .. be able to run at wire speed, that is impressive (the things I didn't know) .. but I am unable to find a pricesheet wor the M5 or M10 anywhere :)

Go to http://www.solunet.com/ and ask them for a quote. They'll be very forthcoming, and willing to give you as many quotes as you need, really.

The M5 probably starts around $25K before modules, but they usually have bundles for typical usage (DS-3 plus FastEth or GigEth). Ask a sales rep for current pricing and promotions info.

Kevin

Originally posted by sigma

The M5 probably starts around $25K before modules, but they usually have bundles for typical usage (DS-3 plus FastEth or GigEth). Ask a sales rep for current pricing and promotions info.

Kevin

25K .. darn .. that's nowhere near the price of the 7206 :) .. but I will enquire .. if it's worth we will see if the budgter can cover it :)

Originally posted by CRego3D


25K .. darn .. that's nowhere near the price of the 7206 :) .. but I will enquire .. if it's worth we will see if the budgter can cover it :)

Worse yet, there's lots of used Cisco gear out there, driving prices down. Used Juniper gear is nearly a nonexistent market - people tend to keep them once they get them :)

Kevin

Originally posted by sigma


Worse yet, there's lots of used Cisco gear out there, driving prices down. Used Juniper gear is nearly a nonexistent market - people tend to keep them once they get them :)

Kevin

hehe, I noticed that, I was checking ebay and the only Juniper I could find was in Hong Kong :stickout