I just got sign up for host account from http://www.technolojik.net
with unlimited SPACE
unlimited email acount .........
seem like everything unlimited !!!!!
guest what
I just upload 2 files .MP3 to server and my account gone!
all the money I pay for them one year is gone too
:angry: :angry:
this is the problem from my end that I did not read the agreement but they need to notify me first before they do that
this is cruded that I spent money for it but my site has not been up for 2 day!!!!!
be aware with them people
www.unlimeted.com is cruded
what it mean about unlimmit space but you can not upload music files! so what you giving unlimit space for??????????
:mad:

What can I say, this happens all the time. Eventually, most unlimited hosts will be put out of business, hopefully. Things like this give hosting a bad name, Im sorry for this, but like I said, What Can I say?

Help everyone out by going against unlimited hosts, and educate anyone with your story.

Jim

edit

Issue a chargeback...? The guy just admitted that he did not read the agreement, which states that music downloads must not breach copyright, so I assume the MP3's he uploaded were in breach of someones copyright, and your suggestion is that he issue a chargeback? That's ridiculous.

There should be laws in place to protect hosts from people breaching terms and conditions being able to just "issue a chargeback".

I say this on the day of our first ever chargeback in 3 years. Some clown decided to mailbomb a particular domain with 23,000+ emails so I figured we were justified in closing that account. But the card holder decided to just "issue a chargeback".

Incredible.

Gary

Gary,

I feel your pain. We get very few chargebacks...but they always seem to be from those who either broke our rules, couldn't figure out that cancelling their hosting account did NOT entitle them to keep their free domain registration (we make them pay the $20 reg. fee if the cancel) or simply never asked for a refund.

You know what REALLY sucks??? Try disputing the chargeback and see how far you get with it. Unless you have an original, signed authorization...you are more than likely not going to win this.

The credit card companies are totally on the side of the consumer. :(

--Tina

Sorry, must have skipped over that line. If you did indeed break the TOS, they have every right to can your account. BUT, they should still refund your money for the unused months. It's not right to hold a customers money hostage. If you used tons of bandwidth, the I'm guess your payment will be used to cover those surcharges.

Originally posted by Editor
Issue a chargeback...? The guy just admitted that he did not read the agreement, which states that music downloads must not breach copyright, so I assume the MP3's he uploaded were in breach of someones copyright, and your suggestion is that he issue a chargeback? That's ridiculous.

There should be laws in place to protect hosts from people breaching terms and conditions being able to just "issue a chargeback".

I say this on the day of our first ever chargeback in 3 years. Some clown decided to mailbomb a particular domain with 23,000+ emails so I figured we were justified in closing that account. But the card holder decided to just "issue a chargeback".

Incredible.

Gary
Like I said I did not read the TOS it's not mean that I am try to break their rule
the music files is the author email it to me; he authorized me to public his work and I am not going to let people download from it; they Just view it if they like they can contact the author; but the way unlimited.com terminated people account without noticed that is cruded! and I am sure that if people know this and there are nobody going to do bussiness with them
they not even try to money back to me either!
:angry:

Originally posted by GSM

Like I said I did not read the TOS it's not mean that I am try to break their rule

Ignorance is no excuse. We hear that line from spammers all the time. "I didn't know it was against your TOS, please don't terminate my account."

If you broke their TOS - they were within their right to terminate your account...and they really don't owe you an explanation or warning. Your warning was the TOS - which you did not read or follow.

--Tina

Originally posted by jimb
What can I say, this happens all the time. Eventually, most unlimited hosts will be put out of business, hopefully. Things like this give hosting a bad name, Im sorry for this, but like I said, What Can I say?

Help everyone out by going against unlimited hosts, and educate anyone with your story.

Jim
if the host comapny worry about going out the bussiness then DO NOT OFFER THE UNLIMMITED SPACE
there are ton of company out there did not offer unlimmited space and are they going out bussiness yet?????????

I just re-read my post...sorry if I sounded short Teck but the news earlier of our own chargeback was a bit of a shock...and you *did* overlook the important part... :-)

Level 3 wanted to go gunning for this guy with their own legal team, but because we responded so quickly to the complainant and shut down the offending account so promptly, he withdrew his complaint and wrote to tell Level 3 how happy he was with our response instead. :rolleyes: So now some clown in Pakistan has had a free month of hosting *and* we cop a chargeback fee as well.

You're right Tina, it seems we have no hope of getting it back. That's fine, lesson learnt. But I doubt our "personal account manager" at Revecom will be calling us up all the way from Canada anymore "for a friendly chat", when they discover the loss in earnings as we move all our card processing services back to Australia. :)

Merry Christmas to you.

Gary

Originally posted by GSM

if the host comapny worry about going out the bussiness then DO NOT OFFER THE UNLIMMITED SPACE
there are ton of company out there did not offer unlimmited space and are they going out bussiness yet?????????


Sounds like you have two complaints with them. The one about the TOS is not justified. The second, I agree with - but I don't see how that effects you in the least.

--Tina

If the TOS mentioned copyrighted music and you uploaded the works of an author you know and you had his permission, then your account would have still been abiding by the TOS.

Originally posted by teck
If the TOS mentioned copyrighted music and you uploaded the works of an author you know and you had his permission, then your account would have still been abiding by the TOS.


Directly from their TOS:

"Audio and video downloads may only be hosted if you are the creator and copyright owner of the work."

Originally posted by AffordableHost


Ignorance is no excuse. We hear that line from spammers all the time. "I didn't know it was against your TOS, please don't terminate my account."

If you broke their TOS - they were within their right to terminate your account...and they really don't owe you an explanation or warning. Your warning was the TOS - which you did not read or follow.

--Tina
I understand what you try to say but I am not Ignorance the TOS
after they terminated my account and I am go back and read the TOS it's said that if upload the mp3 files without authorized is illegal

Originally posted by AffordableHost



Sounds like you have two complaints with them. The one about the TOS is not justified. The second, I agree with - but I don't see how that effects you in the least.

--Tina
Tina
I am not trying to complain any thing!
I am post here to share my problem /experiences with other
I tink it's just my lesson for me and hope that nobody step on it as I were
that's all about my though

Originally posted by GSM

I understand what you try to say but I am not Ignorance the TOS
after they terminated my account and I am go back and read the TOS it's said that if upload the mp3 files without authorized is illegal


Can you show me that? The only thing I read, in their TOS, is that you can't post them unless you are the copyright holder and author.

--Tina

Teck, no it wasn't.

"Software downloads may only be hosted if you are the writer and copyright owner of the software, all other software including freeware, shareware and trial software is forbidden. Audio and video downloads may only be hosted if you are the creator and copyright owner of the work."

That's a very clearly worded term of hosting they have.

They obviously don't want to offer up their servers as a public repository of shareware or other coryright material that is allowed to be distributed. This is quite aside from straight copyright infringement and illegal reproduction/distribution.

It doesn't matter that a software house may allow their applications to be distributed in an unmodified manner...some hosts still wont allow those files to be hosted. If you write to Winzip and seek permission to do so, as one of our own clients recently did, they state that they would prefer people link to their own site where the latest version plus any updates can be attained. Why would a site owner want to then bomb up their own webspace with an archive of downloads, when they can provide just as effective a resource to their site visitors by linking to the file itself.

Gary

Originally posted by AffordableHost



Directly from their TOS:

"Audio and video downloads may only be hosted if you are the creator and copyright owner of the work."

Tina!
It's sound like you are working for them!?
In this case let me tell you this:
I am Just upload the files to the server and my pages has not been public yet how can they know that I am allowed people to download???
they has not view the content page yet so how the hell they know I am against the TOS? and terminated my account, is that ruded?
they has me 2 account the main one and the sub one; the main one they terminated that day and the next day the sub domain terminated and the sub one only the forums!
-------
the author authorized me to public his work and is that not enough????

Originally posted by GSM


Tina!
It's sound like you are working for them!?
In this case let me tell you this:
I am Just upload the files to the server and my pages has not been public yet how can they know that I am allowed people to download???
they has not view the content page yet so how the hell they know I am against the TOS? and terminated my account, is that ruded?
they has me 2 account the main one and the sub one; the main one they terminated that day and the next day the sub domain terminated and the sub one only the forums!
-------
the author authorized me to public his work and is that not enough????



You broke their TOS and they terminated your account because of it. Stop whining and learn something from the experience.


--Tina

Originally posted by GSM
the author authorized me to public his work and is that not enough????

No, not in this case. As per their Terms. Had you read those first, you wouldn't have had any problems.

How would they know already if you hadn't published your site...? Possibly they run a daily script that returns a list of *.mp3/zip/exe files on their servers, and they check over them. Whilst their offers might get flamed for the "unlimited" bit, at least they are working on protecting their investments and enforcing their Terms where appropriate. This is a good thing for those who want to host their website alongside other sites that are also under the same set of terms.

This one isn't specifically about copyright mate. It's also them not wanting their servers to be used as a mini Tucows mirror. That is their right, since it is their equipment. They clearly state no shareware/freeware/etc, and no music/audio that is not your own work.

What is you were a Microsoft partner and had permission to distribute a library of their file viewers? On the host you chose to sign up with you could not do that. That has nothing to do with the copyright on the files nor the authorisation you might have to distribute them.

You've taken issue with a host, and gone public with it, but you are very much in the wrong on all accounts. You need to realise that and move on.

Gary

Originally posted by AffordableHost




You broke their TOS and they terminated your account because of it. Stop whining and learn something from the experience.


--Tina
Hey! you got that wrong
Like I said this post just for sharing my experiences I am not WHINING

Originally posted by Editor


No, not in this case. As per their Terms. Had you read those first, you wouldn't have had any problems.

How would they know already if you hadn't published your site...? Possibly they run a daily script that returns a list of *.mp3/zip/exe files on their servers, and they check over them. Whilst their offers might get flamed for the "unlimited" bit, at least they are working on protecting their investments and enforcing their Terms where appropriate. This is a good thing for those who want to host their website alongside other sites that are also under the same set of terms.

This one isn't specifically about copyright mate. It's also them not wanting their servers to be used as a mini Tucows mirror. That is their right, since it is their equipment. They clearly state no shareware/freeware/etc, and no music/audio that is not your own work.

What is you were a Microsoft partner and had permission to distribute a library of their file viewers? On the host you chose to sign up with you could not do that. That has nothing to do with the copyright on the files nor the authorisation you might have to distribute them.

You've taken issue with a host, and gone public with it, but you are very much in the wrong on all accounts. You need to realise that and move on.

Gary
Hi Gary
Thanks for telling me that
something I learn today
:)

Originally posted by AffordableHost




You broke their TOS and they terminated your account because of it. Stop whining and learn something from the experience.


--Tina
and no matter what if I fuond some public web site like this I will post about www.unlimeted.com is cruded
either their TOS or their company
:D
I have time to do that Tina

anytime you see Unlimited web space, You should click off that site and find another

And when you see Unlimited Space, unlimited this and that for 1.66 a month, You should ban that site from your browser :D

Whatever the TOS says, you have the right to get a refund on the "unused" time of your account. They can cancel your account but they have no right to keep your money. Request a charge back from your CC company, I am sure you will get it.

I think hosts should at least inform their clients before taking such action and refund the unused time.

Originally posted by GSM

and no matter what if I fuond some public web site like this I will post about www.unlimeted.com is cruded
either their TOS or their company
:D
I have time to do that Tina


That's your perogative. It's mine, however, to point out the facts and how they prove that you were in the wrong. :)

--Tina

Originally posted by dbnet
anytime you see Unlimited web space, You should click off that site and find another

And when you see Unlimited Space, unlimited this and that for 1.66 a month, You should ban that site from your browser :D
Yes
that the reason why I post this in here and Tina were taking it in the wrong way!:angry:
I mean that unllimit space is just rib you off there are nothing: you can not upload this....that so why the hell they offer unlimmited space for?

Originally posted by dbnet
anytime you see Unlimited web space, You should click off that site and find another

And when you see Unlimited Space, unlimited this and that for 1.66 a month, You should ban that site from your browser :D


Very good advice!!! :D

--Tina

Originally posted by AffordableHost



That's your perogative. It's mine, however, to point out the facts and how they prove that you were in the wrong. :)

--Tina
Tina!
again
from the beginning that did I say I am right???????????
what I say is the TOS they has is cruded and I post here to telling people that get away from them
They need to wish that this is the only site I knew otherwise I post about them all over the net and this is I am telling the truth about them

Originally posted by addaction
Whatever the TOS says, you have the right to get a refund on the "unused" time of your account. They can cancel your account but they have no right to keep your money. Request a charge back from your CC company, I am sure you will get it.

I think hosts should at least inform their clients before taking such action and refund the unused time.


Not always.

We setup accounts and provide support, on the assumption that our clients are going to abide by our TOS. If a client blatently breaks our TOS and gets terminated...we've invested time and effort (translate MONEY) into this client that we will not get paid for.

Often, when a client breaks the TOS - there is also much time spent investigating the issue and doing research BEFORE the account is terminated. This is also time spent that we will never get paid for.

For the record, out of the 1000s of customers we have - we've only ever terminated 3 accounts for TOS violation...and 2 of them we refunded. However, I can fully understand why some hosts refuse to refund in the case of TOS violation.

On the other hand, it is totally unfair that these types of customers often issue a chargeback anyway...so it really doesn't matter if a host refuses a refund or not. :angry:

--Tina

Originally posted by GSM

Tina!
again
from the beginning that did I say I am right???????????
what I say is the TOS they has is cruded and I post here to telling people that get away from them
They need to wish that this is the only site I knew otherwise I post about them all over the net and this is I am telling the truth about them


By "cruded", I'm assuming you mean unfair or unjust. That is TOTALLY irrelevant because you agreed to it when you signed up. Therefore, you are in the wrong by coming here and complaining because they cancelled your account for violation of said TOS.

I don't want to argue the point with you any further. I understand that you are upset...but you should be more upset with yourself for agreeing to something you did not read.

--Tina

good God, this has really been exploded into a big debate.

Jim

Originally posted by jimb
good God, this has really been exploded into a big debate.

Jim

Yeah, slow day - I'm bored. Thought I would take up "the cause". :)

--Tina

I'm still waitn' on a definition of "cruded" :eek2:

I 'am' an antique ya know. :D

Originally posted by AffordableHost


Yeah, slow day - I'm bored. Thought I would take up "the cause". :)

--Tina
Ohh my god Tina
seem like you are love to picking on me about this then fire it up because you got boring day! :D :D :D
I am just trying to sharing my stupid decission to change host company then ....you try to picking on...............
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Even if you didn't put the files for public downloads, you still violated their TOS. They said you can only upload music files if you own them. Even if you fax them a thousand pages of permission from the owner, you still can't upload music files because they're not yours.

BTW, unlimited space? Hmmmm.. I should get one of those hard drives that they use so I will never run out of disk space. :D

Originally posted by fragga
BTW, unlimited space? Hmmmm.. I should get one of those hard drives that they use so I will never run out of disk space. :D

I asked Santa for one for Christmas.

Then again, he doesn't exist either. :bawling:

--Tina

Look at this:

http://www.technolojik.net/terms.htm

http://fasthosts.co.uk/terms.html

Look familiar?



How do I transfer my domain to you so I can use it with an account?
The rest of the domain extensions (.COM, .NET etc) work in a slightly different way. With these, we are not going to change any of the billing info, or contact details, so at the end of your 2 (or however many years you paid for) you will still be billed by your CURRENT ISP/domain seller. All we ask is that you make DNS changes for us so we can host your domain, like before, you can either a) do this manually, or b) contact your current domain holders and request they do it, the changes need to be as follows:
DNS Server 1: ns1.livedns.co.uk - IP : 213.171.192.250
DNS Server 2: ns2.livedns.co.uk - IP : 213.171.193.250


Look familiar too?

Quacks like a duck, smells like a duck, walks like a duck, its a duck.

Another FastHosts reseller....
They can't bring you account back, unless you e-mail Fasthosts personally, http://community.fasthosts.co.uk/abuse.html

This should clarify everything....

I believe its not their fault, it is fasthosts fault look at just what they offer:


Overview of key features
Host unlimited virtual servers (domain names) with no extra fees to pay
Unlimited disk space for your domains
Create unlimited FTP accounts, each with their own username and password.
Create unlimited e-mail accounts on your domain names.


The term "unlimited" everywhere...