I just got an account at HostMatters.com and must say I am very impressed with their service.

If you're looking for a host, this is a great choice. The staff was also very nice and helpful to me.

WebHostingTalk is also hosted there I believe :)

I have to agree. They are an amazing host. The ppl there are extremely nice. :)

Matt (mkaufman) is quite correct :) WHT is currently hosted at HostMatters, and will be for a while until Matt (SysAdmin) moves it back to the dedicated server once he works everything out. Always highly recommended, and Annette + Stephanie deserve all the praise they get :)

(btw, nice to see you over here at WHT, Matt K. :))

Thanks for the warm welcome :)

Just an off topic suggestion: The Web Hosting "God" thing may offend some people, although I'm not offended others may be :)

hehe.. the more you help.. the higher you move up the ladder :)

Originally posted by mkaufman
Thanks for the warm welcome :)

Just an off topic suggestion: The Web Hosting "God" thing may offend some people, although I'm not offended others may be :)

Yep, there are those who fail to see the humor in just about everything and will take offense. Good news is that they'll probably be so offended that it won't ever affect them personally (not enough posts, heh).

wow, since I've heard so many good things about them, I will be likely to sign up with them very soon. I just checked out their vbulletin forum, very neat and nice way for the customers. But, they should allow guest to post question like this forum instead of forcing them to register in order to post cuz for somebody new, they just might need to ask a quick question. Very good pricing also, I like hostrocket but I couldn't find their term of services (may be they had, but hard to find). Good nite.

Yep, there are those who fail to see the humor in just about everything and will take offense.Since you opened the door Chicken, I would say that "mkaufman" was right on the mark. Those type of people would probably not see any humour in using profanity in posts either. Where to draw the line? Well most people know that you don't argue with fools... people may not know which one is the fool. heh heh

Heh heh, well if anyone wants to discuss the 'other' topic, we should start a thread in the general forum. I don't want to mar a thread about how good a host is. (I am, perhaps, the worst offender of tangents within topics).

Originally posted by Nam
wow, since I've heard so many good things about them, I will be likely to sign up with them very soon. I just checked out their vbulletin forum, very neat and nice way for the customers. But, they should allow guest to post question like this forum instead of forcing them to register in order to post cuz for somebody new, they just might need to ask a quick question. Very good pricing also, I like hostrocket but I couldn't find their term of services (may be they had, but hard to find). Good nite.

Sorry about that, Nam. We were doing some behind the scenes stuff and had turned off those functions for non-registered users. However, we've turned it back on so that guests can also post to the forum.

Don't get me wrong here, but is this not breaking the rules. Maybe i don't understand, but i always have the idea if one rule is broken, soon another is. I really have only heard good things about hostingmatters, and praise Annette and Stephanie for the great work, but could a moderator please clear this up for me and i am sure the other blonde person?

What exactly are you confused about Chris? You are allowed to lavish praise or dole out criticism on hosts however you like, as long as you have something to back yourself up ;)

As for 'tangents within threads', well, if it does go way off the original topic then we can just move it to the General Conversations forum and let it continue there (though it usually dies down). We're not gonna clamp down hard if something goes astray ;)

That said, Annette/Stephanie deserve all the praise they can get.

Originally posted by TheComputerGuy
Don't get me wrong here, but is this not breaking the rules.

I'm a bit confused as well :confused:

It may very well be my post to which he's referring, but for what reason, I'm not quite sure...unless he somehow thinks that is tech support provided via this forum? Or something.

But thanks for the kind words, y'all. :)

Just remember, confusion is as confusion does.

-and that "life is like a box of chickens..." DOH tangent!

I have no objection to tangents, nor have I any idea why anyone would. Tangents are amongst my favorite citrus fruits, and quite tasty in a good spinach salad. In that spinach salads are healthy and nutritious, so therefore must be tangents. With that in mind, I do hope people will discontinue their abusive attitudes concerning them.

[Edited by etLux on 11-05-2000 at 11:52 PM]

I wasn't confused at all until I noticed that Annette was not confused, then it looked like she was confused. Then I see that Chicken was confused, he's never confused, but Kunal, who's always confused, hasn't said he's confused, but maybe he is confused and just hasn't said he's confused. BC appears to be confused, too, and that confuses me, but apparently Chris is not confused and understands perfectly, but will he understand that everybody else is confused, except Annette, which really confuses me, because I would think that if anybody should be confused at this point it would be Annette since the initial confusing post was posted in confusion about her.

Now I am really confused. I am not even sure who wrote this.

[Edited by Marty on 11-06-2000 at 12:29 AM]

I agree completely, Marty.

Oi! You're gonna make m'brain explode!

May I suggest some of that spinach and tangent salad, Annette. The citrus in the the tangents enhances mental acuity.

vroooooooom.......Did somesay say confused? Well im here, now who called me?

Originally posted by BC
Always highly recommended, and Annette + Stephanie deserve all the praise they get :)



This is just ONE of those skewed moderator recomendations. Always Hostmatters or Hostrocket. Geez. (This will be deleted, no doubt.) I can show a whole range of these, but I will be spinning my wheels.

Oh, I finally am not confused. I see now that mkaufmann is simply an agent hired by the combined forces of the might Hostmatters crew and the Moderators of this board to post a positive comment about Hostmatters. (Side Note: Expect another post by an agent hired by Hostrocket and the mods) It is so obvious now that this is a conspiracy that has been going on for eons.

Then again maybe I am still confused.

Just for the record, I would recommend Hostmatters.

I know nothing about Hostrocket.

I am not a moderator.

I do not know a moderator.

I have never met Stephanie or Annette.

I swear to tell the truth....uhoh I am confused agian.

Is anyone else confused, because I am really confused, not to mention kunal who is confused whether he says he is confused or not, and apparently now etlux is confused....Oh I better quit before Just Curious becomes Just Confused....or is that me. I am confused again.

Heeeelllllllllllllppppp!!!

I'm confused too....

well there ya go, you successfully confused me. Although that isn't hard to do on the right topics

A lot of changes since I was last here, hmmm, better catch up :)

Allyn

Originally posted by Just Curious

This is just ONE of those skewed moderator recomendations. Always Hostmatters or Hostrocket. Geez. (This will be deleted, no doubt.) I can show a whole range of these, but I will be spinning my wheels.

I doubt that you will see your post deleted... A post is rarely deleted and a thread is rarely locked because people do BEHAVE when they come here.

I am not recommended, I am not on alabanza and I've been around for quite some time. Our company keeps growing even if we don't get that pub here...

So WHO cares if 2 hosts happens to be good at the good time? We are good :), not at the good time... and still we are not going bankrupt or anything.

Just get over it?

Originally posted by Marty

Just for the record, I would recommend Hostmatters.


This is my argument. You people recommend this skewed host for reasons I don't understand.

WHY do you recommend them, and WHY did you host with them? It is because they were recommended to you by someone. The mods, who are only out to line their pockets with kickbacks.

now i'm confused! :bawling:

Why exactly do you say we are a "skewed" host? Why are you accusing us of giving kickbacks? Are you prepared to back up anything you say with facts or do you just go around knowingly posting false information about companies?

This is just ONE of those skewed moderator recomendations. Always Hostmatters or Hostrocket. Geez. (This will be deleted, no doubt.) I can show a whole range of these, but I will be spinning my wheels.

You've been asked several times by Annette to post all those threads where hostmatters is recommended so frequently. Now you say you can. Why don't you? Could it be because once again you'll be wrong, because there aren't any there? I know, I looked through a bunch. Here are some of the hosts I saw recommended by various people including moderators:

tera-byte hostrocket webexpose windowswebhost catalog gsp futurequest hostcaters odenet webauthorities your-site ultraspeed site5 liquidweb hostmatters below10host jaguarpc westhost jumpline thinkhost (even though his attitude seems a lot like yours) pair and so on

Nobody has any monopoly on this forum. I think the moderators do a great job.

This is my argument. You people recommend this skewed host for reasons I don't understand.

WHY do you recommend them, and WHY did you host with them? It is because they were recommended to you by someone. The mods, who are only out to line their pockets with kickbacks.

If you think the only way hosts get business is by the recommendation of a moderator on a forum, you are the one who's skewed (and foolish). This forum is not the be all end all of the hosting world and your mindset is pretty limited if you think that.

You might want to keep in mind that you're teetering onthe edge of libel too, with your constant accusations, because you are trying (desparately) to damage their reputations.

It's obvious to the rest of us that you just have some axe to grind. I wish you would list whatever company you're associated with, because it would definitely be off my list of hosts that I consider. You are making claims about kickbacks and (to borrow Annette's phrase) insulting everyone here. I think Annette and Brendan have show themselves to be better than you will ever be.

strange!

i guess there are a few peoples who just come in here, see that WHT is hosted by hostmatters, put two and whatever other number gets in their head together and goes with it...

well luckily, i am one of those people! i've been looking over this forum for the last two weeks and wow, i've never seen such nice people in an industry that is really not known for any of that...

i wish i had found this forum earlier, but then again, i lucked out and am with a great web host... although i have to say, i think i would be with hostmatters if i didn't have a host... why?

no, not because i work for them
no, not because they paid me to say this (BTW, Annette, i check my account twice daily, and my usual fee is $25 / nice post :) )

but mainly because i did some RESEARCH after seeing all these nice posts, and found them they were basically true...!

so ya, the moderators are a bit crazy... they have their own election campaign going unknown to the rest of the world, and occasionally they say nice things about their own host only when someone else says somthing nice, but you know, i forgive all that...!

if i was american

i'd vote chicken

Originally posted by Just Curious
Originally posted by Marty

WHY do you recommend them, and WHY did you host with them? It is because they were recommended to you by someone. The mods, who are only out to line their pockets with kickbacks. [/B]

Hmm. I have a feeling this will only encite this rubbish further, but it's the first clear question this guy has had, and something I can answer directly.

I host with Annette and the answer to why this is, is simple. First off I got a 30 day money back thing so if they were crap I could run and get my money back.

Why would I recommend them?

My previous two hosts had a support turn-around of 24 hours to 3 days, to never. Since I've been bugging Annette and Steph my support inquires have generally been answered within a few minutes to a few hours at worst (even they need sleep). I'm the first to admit I've thrown some curly ones at them in regards to extra this and that. I have HUGE plans for some of my domains which require some excessive work on their part to get things set up. All of which has been accomplished to my satisfaction (and beyond), in a timeframe I could only dream of with other hosts.

Why do I host with them?

The above response covers most of it, plus the fact both are here often so my general support needs are not only met through the usual channels but I get to engage in an open discussion online with them and others through this forum. As an overall package I host under people I respect for their efficency, as well as the human quality they display here.

As a side note, a LOT of the hostmatters.com noise is due to people like yourself who continue to pick them out of the list. I'm not particularly interested in holding the torch that shines from hostmatters backside, but simply put, without their services everyone under them suffers. If I didn't feel using their services was worth my money I wouldn't be there. As they are it's in my best interest to protect their business as it protects mine. (at least till I go dedicated one day).

Should Annette decide to slip me a check everytime I was to mention what I thought of her service I'd take it!! Sadly however she doesn't need to pay for good reviews so I have to do this stuff out of the goodness of my heart. Should I finally outgrow their services one day (which I find hard to fathom), I'll continue to refer and mention them as my most favourable host encounter so far in half a decade online.

You seem go be going out of your way to personally attack the real people of that company which I find the saddest part of it all, considering that same human element is what makes them a worthwhile consideration. Should you find a problem with the service levels, uptime, or what-not then I could understand what you are trying to do.

Over the past few months I've seen a few people take a shot at Annette et.al. and nothing has stuck. The hostmatters staff have taken it all on the chin (no doubt thanks to their experience as tech support people). Were I in their shoes I can't say I would have taken all this so gracefully.

Are they the best hosts in the world?

Probably not. There's a vast collection of great hosts who post here regularly (from word of mouth) who may offer better, larger, shinier deals and plans. There's no doubt better hosts that don't ever post here (maybe even you!). All I can say is I've been treated well by them and will support their continued success. If I get anything out of it, it's the knowledge that my upstream can deal with their business even better than they do now without having to worry about damage control from a small collection of tossers with nothing better to do....

Greg Moore
http://www.akashik.net


[Edited by akashik on 11-06-2000 at 04:09 AM]

Yeesh, I didn't mean to start a flame war here :)

But anyway, I don't see why you care "Just Curious"

I wasn't paid by them or even told to recommend them. But I was so impressed with the speed of their service, tech support and even the staff that I felt it would be the right thing to do by posting this topic.

There are also many other hosts that are and still recommended other then HostRocket and HostMatters. A few weeks ago, just about EVERYONE recommended ThinkHost!

I've also NEVER seen anyone actually complain about other people recommend other Web hosts trying to HELP other people.

Just don't worry about it..companies do get recommended.

The alternative to piling praise on those who deserve it is knocking the crap out of those who don't. Now THAT will ruin this forum.

Originally posted by Just Curious

WHY do you recommend them, and WHY did you host with them? It is because they were recommended to you by someone. The mods, who are only out to line their pockets with kickbacks.

Here you are wrong? You may not believe me, but that is okay. They were not recommended to me by a moderator. When I started hosting with them, there were no mods here except for the sysadmin (Matt). So before you make such accusations about me, I would suggest you get your facts straight. But since you asked some coherent questions, I will answer them.

Why did I choose them. Because after narrowing my choices down based on plans and pricing, I began to email hosts with a list of presale questions, and test support questions. Annette and Stephanie always answered my questions within 5 hours, and most of the time with 20 minutes. They had the features that I needed along with many that I wanted, but were not essential, at a price that I liked. Not to mention the fact I only live 60 miles from their location. I don't know why that made a difference, but for some reason there was comfort in knowing that they were that close.

Since signing up, I have not been disappointed. Let me give you an example. I was trying to set up a MySQL database, and for some reason the control panel automation was not working. I shot off an email to Stephanie at Hostmatters describing the problem. I got and went to answer the call of nature and returned to my computer about 3 minutes later. Upon my return I had a return email from Stephanie, appologizing for the inconvenience and telling me that she had set up the database manually from the command line. I log in and sure enough it is set up.

I could cite many other examples of the courteous and prompt way in which they conduct business.

Why would I recommend them? Because of the experience that I have had. I certainly would not recommend those with whom I have no experience. I will recommend those that I have seen positive comments about, and let you know that the recommendation is based on the comments of others. I have experiece with another host that I would recommend and that is http://www.atlantawebhost.com. I have a site with them and their service is excellent. Based on other comments, I would easily recommend webexpose, intrahost, dynastyhost, catalog, etc. This is not an exhaustive list, just those I could think of right away.

I think the reason you see mods recommending hosts, is because above everybody else here they read more comments and have more information concerning the positive and negative comments about hosts.

One final note, Please do not accuse me of things that I did not do (choosing a host based on WHT mod recommendations, when there were no mods when I chose my host) when you have no idea who I am or why I have done the things I have done. Also, understand that there are many of us out here that are intelligent enough to make decisions for ourselves based on our own independent research as consumers and then choose the host that best suits us. I find it insulting that you would suggest that I would be so easily swayed by the opinions of BC, Chicken, Mike, et. al.

I guess I'll shut up now. All I can tell you is that the reason Hostmatters gets the praise and recommendations that they get is because:

1. They deliver on service and quality

2. They have prices that are as good as any out there

3. They have shown themselves, here and in other places, to be genuinely willing to help rather than to cut people down.

You may want to disregard all of this, because I have been known to be confused.


[Edited by Marty on 11-06-2000 at 09:32 AM]

I'm all for open discussion about any topic, but 'Just Curious' continues to badger memebers of this forum and the moderators with false accusations.

Reasonable discussion is not taking place and I'm just going to ask all of you to completely ignore the comments made by this jealous coward. There will be no further comments by me about this subject and anyone who wishes to discuss it is urged to email me or any of the other moderators.

Again, please just ignore the posts as this person is ignoring many of the questions we have asked. He/She is only picking the few words or phrases out of everyone's posts that give him fuel to carry this on.

Thank you.

I thought it would be appropriate at this time to release the current standings in my Fall 2000 WHT Moderator Recommendation Program. As you all know, the grand prize is a 2001 Porsche Boxster for the first Mod to hit the 500-post mark for recommending my company. Kunal already won the summer "Mods Are Gods" promotion, a two-week golf vacation extravaganza at Pebble Beach. (Excludes air fare, buddy!)

Here are the current standings:

Chicken 325 recs (This could be his year!)
BC 297 recs (Smells blood. Watch out!)
Kunal 255 recs (Golf dreams?)
Dana 210 recs (You go, girl!)
MikeA 182 recs (Cold calling: Nice touch!)

It's been an exciting race. The Mods have been ruthlessly posting recommendations, driving up bandwidth and making Annette fabulously wealthy from overusage fees collected from Matt. You think those were router problems that caused the Alabanza outages? Nahh! That was all the high traffic from Mods recommending me! ME!! Bwaah Hah Hah!

I wish that people who posted about there excellent dealings with webhosting companies would at least refrain from opinion until they have been with their new host for awhile.

Please see the post over at Sitepoint:
http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=11266

It seems like he is trying to find every board and recommend Annette. I personally don't have a problem with this, however, I can see other people having a problem going around and giving what would seem like premature recommendations.

Originally posted by Marty
Oh, I finally am not confused. I see now that mkaufmann is simply an agent hired by the combined forces of the might Hostmatters crew and the Moderators of this board to post a positive comment about Hostmatters. (Side Note: Expect another post by an agent hired by Hostrocket and the mods) It is so obvious now that this is a conspiracy that has been going on for eons.

Then again maybe I am still confused.

Just for the record, I would recommend Hostmatters.

I know nothing about Hostrocket.

I am not a moderator.

I do not know a moderator.

I have never met Stephanie or Annette.

I swear to tell the truth....uhoh I am confused agian.

Is anyone else confused, because I am really confused, not to mention kunal who is confused whether he says he is confused or not, and apparently now etlux is confused....Oh I better quit before Just Curious becomes Just Confused....or is that me. I am confused again.

Heeeelllllllllllllppppp!!!

Any comments Ive made about Host Matters were made *before* I was a moderator :) and also for the Record Im not hosted with them any longer and I *Challenge* you to find a post pro or con about my current host...nuff said

[Edited by Dana on 11-06-2000 at 05:41 PM]

Hi, I posted that topic over there at SitePointForums.

I must agree, posting at two forums is way out of line...right? ;)

I had no intention of starting any trouble here or anywhere for that matter.

There isn't a set number of days that you have to be with a hosting company to recommend it. Many people have recommended HostingMatters. Unlike other hosting companies, they were actually willing to talk to me and they answered every single question I had for them quickly and simply.

Originally posted by BC

REUTERS, New York (Nov. 6th) - WHT moderators Chicken and Kunal today admitted in a Senate hearing in New Jersey that they had received unspecified kickbacks from Chinese committees and organisations to further their fighting funds and to simply line their own pockets.

While Kunal refused to comment, Chicken burbled, "Well I thought with my old diddly teaching job I needed some more mo to get by, ya know.... So when those organisations approached me I just couldn't refuse.... Waaaaaaaaa...." *breaks down*

Crown prosecutor Kenneth Starr also elaborated that checks for 5-digit sums had been sighted as being addressed to Chicken and Kunal from secret bank accounts in the Cayman Islands. These accounts were in the name of a certain individual who cannot be identified, it is believed that this individual is a high-ranking official within the Democrat Party. It is also understood the same official also constructed the Vote for Chicken 2000 site with the permission of Al Gore.....

As a result, Matt F. and BC were forced to immediately give both moderators lashings from a dominatrix for accepting such paybacks, and were both suspended from further moderating until they have been given brain-washing treatments from Tibetan monks and returned to society.

Both Dana and Matt made no comment today, while BC was last seen in the throngs of the Melbourne Cup carnival and could not be tracked down for comment......

The conspiracy continues......

Plainly, the moderators are all in league together for nefarious purposes -- by their very own admissions.

Even worse -- *gasp* -- Chicken actually burbled!

[Edited by etLux on 11-06-2000 at 06:45 PM]

OMG, you guys are too funny! Especially Ed and his "summer Mod are Gods" promotions! Good to see I am out ahead of the rest :)

I cannot help but mention that I find burbling an offensive characteristic in chickens testifying before congressional committees.

In future, kindly refrain from this; and merely grovel and squirm as one is supposed to do.

I keep that in mind and keep the blubling to a bare minimum. :)

Chicken, if you want that Porsche you better step on it! Kunal talked me up over at Verio and they want to sign up as a reseller. Now they're mine! MINE!! Bwahh Hah Hah!!


All seriousness aside, I need someone who's good at Photoshop to doctor this picture I have of the CitiCorp building in Manhattan. You know, someone who can get the perspective right so it kinda makes my logo look like it's a sign on the building. Then I can post the graphic on the "About Us" page of my Web site and dupe people into thinking I'm more than I really am.

[Edited by alchiba on 11-06-2000 at 07:24 PM]

I can ;)

ok, sorry for posting a confusing quesion to lead to this. This is like being the principals daughter and be announced Valore Victorian. Just kidding, As long as anything stated can be backed up is allowed right moderators?

Originally posted by alchiba
Chicken, if you want that Porsche you better step on it!

I actually already have one, and it is for sale. Anyone want one? :)

Porsches suck. I like my Plymouth Duster. Anyone want to make me an offer (1983 - MINT!)

[Edited by WeinBar on 11-08-2000 at 06:39 PM]

Couldn't agree more! I'm VERY happy with Hosting Matters and they've been so very helpful to me in getting started reselling. I've asked numerous questions since signing on with them and I've always gotten very rapid replies that were thorough, polite and in no way condescending or unprofessional. These girls, Annette and Stephanie, really know their stuff and they will be successful because they understand the importance of customer service! I could go on and on, but I won't. If you need a good, solid, reliable host you can't go wrong here!

Tess

I haven't had the pleasure of conversing with Stephanie. However, as you know, Annette is a Goddess. And aside from that, she's intelligent, knows her stuff, answers her support e-mail promptly and literately, and dances an innuendo-filled samba.

Originally posted by WeinBar
Porsches suck. I like my Plymouth Duster. Anyone want to make me an offer (1983 - MINT!)

[Edited by WeinBar on 11-08-2000 at 06:39 PM]

Man, I was gonna offer to trade, but since you don't like Porsches...

Shameless Plug: http://woobster.com/4sale

If I don't sell it this weekend (which seems not all that likely), then I am just going to register it again and drive it.

I would like to make a correction, for the record:



















I do not dance. :)

Btw, Annette, did ya hear that Chicken wanted to......

























Uhm, I better not say anything more in case Chicken tries to poke me to death here..... :D

Tahm to rotate that .sig old boy, Ah say, son, it's tahm to rotate that ol' .sig of yours. (Courtesy of Foghorn Leghorn - a distant relative of Chicken's, perhaps?).

I regret my error in posting that Annette "dances an innuendo-filled samba."

I lost my head. Such misstatement is inexculpable.

May I hope that my error will be forgiven.

Another Hostingmatters puff piece.....

I'm not sure on this, but I suspect that Annette does not puff.

No, I leave that to the pufferfish who show up in every thread where we're mentioned. All air, no substance...

Has anyone ever gotten their hosting company in a major newspaper? My buddy just got his optometry business in the local paper, but he's wondering how to get into the bigger paper for the area. He'd like it be to promote his grand opening.

look who's talking. while you accuse others of favoring hostingmatters and 'tracking people', you yourself are tracking these threads and wasting your life criticising this forum.

in other words you're just an ******* hypocrite.

get over it. this ain't the only forum in the world - you go over to sitepoint forums and insult those people over there for recommending hostingmatters and hostrocket (they do it even more over there) and see what kind of reaction you get there. as for myself, i use internet design 2000 and there ace.

and yeah, i'm using anonymizer just so people don't know i is.

peace out

"look who's talking. while you accuse others of favoring hostingmatters and 'tracking people', you yourself are tracking these threads and wasting your life criticising this forum."

Pleaselook and see how many times I have posted, barely at all, if I was that interested I would have posted alot more don't u think? I am just going on what little I have seen, that's it.



[Edited by Chicken on 11-13-2000 at 09:09 AM]

Again, I'll just ask everyone to ignore these pointless comments. 99.99% of you come here to help others and discuss things, but there's always the .01% that has nothing to add.

Thank you.

Hey CHicken,
Those comments weren't mine, I was quoting the previous comment, I am surprised you haven't locked me out yet. Can't deal with the truth?

Originally posted by Chicken
Again, I'll just ask everyone to ignore these pointless comments. 99.99% of you come here to help others and discuss things, but there's always the .01% that has nothing to add.

Thank you.

ALL this ignoring is really hurting, please stop think of what you would do if you were lonley with nothing else to do, I like talking to people, and now you ignore me, really I have a crush on certain people on this board.

*yawwwwwwn*