You will be supprised how much of your site it indexs... This is a test (beta) version....

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=internet+marketing&FORM=SMCRT

Like I predicted microsoft doesn't like staying below anyone and this tester seems something they are showing off with pride.. Check it out and let me know of your views..

Interesting. I looked up Web Design Canton Ohio, which I assumed would return me somewhere in the results. Within the frist two pages, it returned eight pages of sites I created (which had me in the credits). But my primary site wasn't in the first five pages.

I wonder how it figured out the relevancy there...

I know it's just one example, I'm just curious how it came up with its ranking. I'm indexed, as I'm the first listing if you simply search for PLH.

Hmm...

Originally posted by the_pm
Interesting. I looked up Web Design Canton Ohio, which I assumed would return me somewhere in the results. Within the frist two pages, it returned eight pages of sites I created (which had me in the credits). But my primary site wasn't in the first five pages.

I wonder how it figured out the relevancy there...

how do they figure out relevancy? well i'll tell you one thing, the text on the site is HUGE in any search engine. You searched for "Web Design Canton Ohio." That phrase is not anywhere on your site! I could only find "canton ohio" once on your site and it wasn't even on the index page. you shouldn't be surprised that msn doesn't rank you for a phrase that doesn't even show up on your site.

I didn't search the phrase in quotes, I searched on those four keywords separately, which are peppered on a few pages. But on second review, I guess you're right - they're not prominent keyword on my site. It's just that searching on those words has brought me good listings in quite a few SEs in recent past, which is why I tried them now. Just figuring it all out... :)

Originally posted by blackdog
how do they figure out relevancy? well i'll tell you one thing, the text on the site is HUGE in any search engine. And seemingly more so here than currently in other major search engines -- that is, they're giving on-page factors much more weight than off-page.

That's why, as I mentioned in another thread, I can't see the current algorithm surviving past the beta phase. It's pretty much like other search engines were three or four years ago. SEOs aren't bothering to optimize for it yet, since significant numbers of people aren't using it for "real" searches, but once that starts to happen it'll be just like the old days: a return to keyword stuffing and cloaking -- and those sites that are now ranking well for competitive keywords without really trying will probably find themselves buried. That is, if you're happy with your ranking results now, don't count on being as happy if this algorithm goes live. It'll be spam heaven! :evilb:
Originally posted by Postmaster
You will be supprised how much of your site it indexs... Maybe, but remember this: they've been spidering for months to build this index. It isn't a fair indicator of what their scope will be when they start updating it regularly, or of what their ability to keep the index fresh will be.
Like I predicted microsoft doesn't like staying below anyone In my opinion, they're quite far below the competition as the beta version stands now, but they have improved the results over what they were a couple of weeks ago when this debuted. They're able to combine results from the same site more effectively now, and have less duplicate content. Still not stemming queries, though. It looks more like a year-2001 version of AltaVista or Inktomi right now from a technology standpoint than a year-2004 Google or Yahoo.

I expect they'll continue to improve it before going live, of course... but right now: not ready for prime time.

In other news a Microsoft employee that who works on the new MSN search engine has been accused of hacking into AltaVista/OverTure/Yahoo(he worked for AltaVista on their search engine before he quit).