Hey,

I have heard stories that the FBI does have the power to do this but check out what happened to this host.

http://www.sexhost4free.com/gone.html

OUR SERVERS TAKEN
As you might have heard the FBI have been doing a big crackdown on Warez software
and for some unknown reason they took our servers and although we have no such
illegal material on our servers they are not giving them back.

We have relocated and starting from scratch again.
we are sorry for any inconveniences this would have caused but it was out of our hands


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I was reading one magazine and it was talking about a somewhat large hosting company having all of their servers taken AND having their tape backups taken. What the hell do you do then?

Aren't there some terrorists they should be looking for? :eek:

Originally posted by Rewdog
Aren't there some terrorists they should be looking for? :eek:

Maybe thats what they are doing, and covering it up by saying that their is WAREZ on the server.

I can tell you one thing, I would rather have the FBI trying to find terrorists and put them away, before they go over the web and look for stupid WAREZ stuff.

Jim

Not all membres of FBI are supposed to be in charge of locating those terrorists.

Originally posted by jimb


Maybe thats what they are doing, and covering it up by saying that their is WAREZ on the server.

I can tell you one thing, I would rather have the FBI trying to find terrorists and put them away, before they go over the web and look for stupid WAREZ stuff.

Jim

Well, I guess that's one way to get your daily dose of porno when you can't use your own office computer. :D

well of course I had to take a look....
how do they do it? They claim unlimted space/bandwidth that which should be an immediate warning sign....
they also say go make lots of money with sponsers.....
I dont get it .... must not be for real?

Maybe it's a crackdown on the unlimited bandwidth. :D :D

Well, I know there was just a crackdown on warez. Huge groups named DOD and PWA were taken down by inside people in the FBI and they also took down all of the FTP sites.

But they offer unlimited bandwidth to people who want to run adult sites as long as they can put headers and footers on the pages. They generally pay $150 / MBit/s so its really worth it to them. I run a site off a free host like that just because it would not be worth the amount of money I would pay at the prices I get to host it myself. I use 5-6 GB a day and they dont charge me a dime :)

here is full story from cnet for those of you who want to read

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8233279.html

:cool:

In my opinion the FBI are the REAL terrorists. The people that hold the strings use the NewYork and other incidents and the phrase "terrorist" as an excuse to contol all of us and to achieve world domination.

I am an active "Anti-Carnivore" activist and I have realized the threat those madmen pose to all of our freedom! :angry:

www.stopcarnivore.org

Maybe they think Bin Ladin is running these warez/porn sites and getting thost millions of it. :D

Originally posted by MrLister
Maybe they think Bin Ladin is running these warez/porn sites and getting thost millions of it. :D

Oh yeah, Bin Laden must have a LOT of free time on his hands to run a porn biz :D I thought he was a bit preoccupied with blownin' up stuff. Well you never know ;)

Originally posted by mahinder
here is full story from cnet for those of you who want to read

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8233279.html



In his posting, "ttol" describes RogueWarriorz as a group of about 70 members with access to more than 40 sites belonging to other groups.

fyi: i think, the guy's name ttol means The Tree Of Life aka ttol.


:)

Those in government that crack down on warez are ignorant, and a pawn of corporate corruption and ignorance.

The people that use warez would not be buying the software in the first place. Plus, most of your computer geeks and gurus got their knowledge and skills from the warez community and that freedom.

So duuuuu...... Why they cutting off the hands that feed them, especially when most are young people trying to learn computers.

The people they should go after are the ones that actually profit from selling warez, like esspecially in some asian countries.
They are the real place where corporations loose their "so called" billions in profits.

I mean people have been copying and sharing music for years and it hasn't bankrupted the music industry.

I hate "false logic" and "ignorance"....... At least when it starts infringing on peoples rights...... :(

Originally posted by leeuniverse
Those in government that crack down on warez are ignorant, and a pawn of corporate corruption and ignorance.

I think that it's the FBI's responsibility to enforce the law. Currently software piracy is illegal. If you don't like it, lobby.

But IMHO, software piracy is wrong and is not a victimless crime. Software pirates are violating someone's rights.

Originally posted by leeuniverse
Those in government that crack down on warez are ignorant, and a pawn of corporate corruption and ignorance.

Maybe you have not written any code that was sold. But if you have, these wares sites would be the most annoying thing to you.


The people that use warez would not be buying the software in the first place. Plus, most of your computer geeks and gurus got their knowledge and skills from the warez community and that freedom.


Please don't insult the coding community. Most of the better software coders that I know also write shareware and freeware software, join discussion list and activly look to assist. Yes they are willing to give there knowledge away ( look at sourceforge and /. )

Most of the great coders have always paid for the software, then they go out and reverse engineer it. Just for the shear joy of it. Best example of this is the guy whom wrote Oasis and the guy's whom wrote PhpAdsNew. Both of these programs are reverse engineers of adserving software that is in the pay market. Each was made due for the shear joy of making a better product. ( read the history of the coders )



The people they should go after are the ones that actually profit from selling warez, like esspecially in some asian countries.
They are the real place where corporations loose their "so called" billions in profits.

Good example is Microsoft. they have huge deep pockets so the losses they have are minimal in the scope of sales. But then look at Vbulletin. every copy that is stolen affects them hard in the pocket book. Why do you think that so many people seemed to get upset when they started to answer the questions from known paid members (subscribers) first and placed second the others. Paid clients deserve the services.



I mean people have been copying and sharing music for years and it hasn't bankrupted the music industry.
I hate "false logic" and "ignorance"....... At least when it starts infringing on peoples rights...... :(

I've seen this agruement before.
Without knowing your age look at a time line of the speed of copying, back in the 70's and early 80's you would have recorded off the radio station, or if your pal had the album, you would have played the entire thing to a cassette. still the amount of copying was very little of sales.

then it got easier, making your own tape of the music was fun and you might have made an extra for your pal. the only time you lost was about 1 hours total because you had dual decks ( 1985 was the first time I saw them). still low amount of copying to the amount of sales

Now all you have to do is insert the CD, upload to sever, tell the right parties and poof you've been able to give the music to 5 people or even more. Max time to do this is about 15 minutes to half hour and the amount of people that can get it alot. At this point there is a loss of revenue to everyone.

I won't get into the revenue model of the music industry. that is a seperate debate from theft of music.

-Sqposter / Michael

It is disturbing to say the least that in a time when the world is in the grips of fear - a result of horrific terrorist acts both in America and abroad - the Federal Bureau of Investigation and like-minded agencies across the globe have seen fit to serve as the errand boy of the BSA and the software industry in general. In carrying out "Operation Buccaneer" and its relations (also given cute pet names), the American Federal government and all agencies involved have wasted millions of dollars at the tax payer's expense to combat the equivalent of electronic jaywalking. The victims in this case are not the industry giants like Microsoft and Sega who pushed for this action, they are the software users who are continually subjected to monopolistic corporations and unfair market practices. They are users in foreign markets who cannot afford the whimsical pricing of software that all too often does not function as claimed by its makers. They are college students, technology experts, software designers - and most often, the average computer user. They are the best and brightest of the present and future.

The numbers oft quoted in the press - that piracy accounts for the loss of X billions of dollars to the software industry each year - are first and foremost a lie. There is no standard set of calculations with which to prove these claims. And any losses are certainly not the result of groups such as Drink or Die. Yet the Department of Justice and other sources pay lip service to the cause of self-interest and greed promoted by the BSA in quoting these figures. All the while, the true criminal element in regard to piracy is ignored - those who reproduce mass numbers of software programs for profit, undercutting the prices (even if unfair) of real developers and distributors. Instead, authorities target those who make no profit, see no returns, and carry out their hobby only because they believe software should do as it claims, and that consumers should not fall victim to ridiculously inflated prices without at the very least having a chance to examine the product in its entirety.

On December 11th, the FBI, the DOJ, et al did nothing to prevent the real dangers of piracy. They simply increased the oppurtunity for unscrupulous, profit-oriented individuals to cash in, as they did in past operations such as Cyberstrike and Cyberhook. They arrested and/or detained college students, teenagers, and working individuals. They bit the hands that feed them. Nothing else was accomplished.

And everyone ought to be outraged.

<a href="http://officialdod.********/">This site</a> has some more detais of the extent of the raids.