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JBIZ718
12-17-2001, 05:24 PM
I am trying to find out more info on backup solutions out there and what people are using

DHWWnet
12-17-2001, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
I am trying to find out more info on backup solutions out there and what people are using

currently , we use a backup drive and set it to backup all files once every 24 hours. we also, use the RAID system not for backups but on our HA machines.

not sure with the Tape backup but are considering it, once we open up our co-lo facility soon.

cbaker17
12-17-2001, 06:26 PM
nm

nm really nm no really jbiz NM

JBIZ718
12-17-2001, 06:31 PM
Can we try to keep this post on target, I am trying to get more info on backup solutions

But where is your colo facility j/k

RackMy.com
12-17-2001, 06:47 PM
We use NAS/SAN backup systems to do daily backups, then we use DLT tape units to weekly backup the backup units. (whew, that was a mouthful :) )

Palm
12-17-2001, 06:48 PM
You can mount the filesystem (NFS) to server #2 and run backups from it. Server #1 has no server load increased so the server can run smoother.

cbaker17
12-17-2001, 06:52 PM
hmm rackmy you use a propriatary server for nas such as snap servers or a white box solution?

Rewdog
12-17-2001, 07:15 PM
Too bad we can't click more than one :(

netsolutions
12-17-2001, 08:10 PM
Ya that would be good.

Pilgrim
12-17-2001, 08:25 PM
Outsourced. Paying a third party company to take care of it at the moment.

DHWWnet
12-17-2001, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718


...But where is your colo facility ..


southern california :)

UmBillyCord
12-17-2001, 09:06 PM
RAID 1 tarring up restore files and storing them locally. Then every few days/weeks, copying files over to a NAS (like Maxtor Attach).

Quick restore for customers who delete things by using local files. If a drive fails, I am safe. If the RAID copies a virus and we need to restore from scratch, we pull it from the NAS.

Walter
12-18-2001, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
I am trying to find out more info on backup solutions out there and what people are using

Two comments:
1. What exactly is your question? What backup system we use? What is the optimal backup solution? Or....
2. RAID is no backup, in no way.

allan
12-18-2001, 06:49 PM
Damned...you took my post :). I agree with Walter, RAID is a mirroring system, or a way to extend your disks, but I have never seen it used as a backup.

Originally posted by Walter

2. RAID is no backup, in no way.

Webdude
12-18-2001, 07:58 PM
cp -Rf /path/to/ /backup/dir

then set it up on a cron for the times you want it to happen (ie: weekly, monthly - time of day, etc)

for example, you could have
/backup/bkmonthly
and
/backup/bkweekly

and simply use cron to copy whatever you want over into them. It works well, easily implmented, and creates very little load. This is about the simplest way to create backups, but is also very reliable. If you need a restore from backups, there are no files to decompress or tapes to go thru....you simply copy from backups back to where you need the files, set permissions or whatever, and your done. This is one of the methods I use simply because it makes it so easy to restore things from.. I mean, who really cares if any method of backup is easy if restoring is too much of a pain (tapes are a pain, and decompressing files are a pain).

You can also put a burner on the server, put software that allows remote access, keep a CDRW in the drive, and keep critical system files backed up that way as well. There are modules in Webmin that can do this..

allan
12-18-2001, 08:25 PM
You can automate this process using REOBack (http://reoback.penguinsoup.org/). REOBack also allows you to do incremental backups, etc. It is not as simple as Webdude's solution...but it will work.


Originally posted by Webdude
cp -Rf /path/to/ /backup/dir

then set it up on a cron for the times you want it to happen (ie: weekly, monthly - time of day, etc)

Webdude
12-18-2001, 08:31 PM
Actually cron does it. I have backups running at 2AM on the first day of each month for the monthly backups, and then at 4AM each sunday. It used to have to be done completely by hadn, which meant you had to know it all. However, if you use some sort of control panel, I think most now have some sort of cron setup functions in them..

driverdave
12-18-2001, 08:39 PM
I rsync to a hot backup server nightly, and completely tar up all data/configurations to my home computer weekly, and save 2 incremental copies of the weekly.