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Vortech 12-17-2001, 01:35 PM Is there any chaeper GUI's for FreeVSD then ProVSD out there.
http://www.idaya.com/products/provsd/offers.phtml?
Maybe like free ones or some thing. Just want to chack before we spend $4,000 bucks on som thing like that.
I know you don't need one but it should make things easier for new users to FreeVSD, Thanks
palmtree 12-17-2001, 10:06 PM If your going to drop that kind of money, I would go with Ensim's platform.. allows you to do everything FreeVSD does, plus more..
http://www.ensim.com
Just a thought..
laterz,
raqworld
Vortech 12-17-2001, 10:07 PM Yea but that is a one time fee. Ensim is one big time fee plus that $2500 a month..
palmtree 12-17-2001, 10:11 PM They got rid of the $2500/mo thing.. Now its just a monthly fee per VPS..
According to the website above, the same (a monthly fee) goes with FreeVSD.. unless you sign up with their december special.. ?
raqworld
palmtree 12-17-2001, 10:12 PM Also, the one time fee I was quoted was around $4500 to $5000.. not much more than what you are going to pay..
Anyways, just a thought..
raqworld
ckpeter 12-17-2001, 11:06 PM I think there are some free php scripts on freevsd's website.
Peter
Originally posted by Raqworld
They got rid of the $2500/mo thing.. Now its just a monthly fee per VPS..
According to the website above, the same (a monthly fee) goes with FreeVSD.. unless you sign up with their december special.. ?
raqworld
Isn't freevsd free? Or you mean ProVSD?
Vortech 12-18-2001, 01:36 AM I know FreeVSD is free.. :) Kind of got that from the name Free.. hehe
But wanted some kind of user side tools to make things easy. I am not sure if or how hard it would be to install Plesk/Cpanel/ensim or one of them but then it kind of kills the hole idea i geuss..
Maybe i will just make it for ADV user NO CP..
Does any one know if webmin is fine on there. We will start plying with it after the first of the year but trying to get some ideas on it first.. ;)
JeremyL 12-18-2001, 02:52 AM Originally posted by Raqworld
They got rid of the $2500/mo thing.. Now its just a monthly fee per VPS..
According to the website above, the same (a monthly fee) goes with FreeVSD.. unless you sign up with their december special.. ?
raqworld
Where did you hear that at? I was tld by them it was still around.
Vortech, please let me know if you found out any good control panel which can be used in FreeVSD, I am interested to know :)
poeta 12-18-2001, 05:32 AM :mad:
Idaya (the Co. behind freevsd) is backpedaling in re freevsd. It's sitll open source.. but the latest release is difficult to get, and the gui frontend even more! Even though I understand that Idaya needs to make money, I feel that the way they're handling alll this will backfire in such a way that there is a very real chance that freevsd will disapear :(
a group of user/developers are trying to develop a "real free", "real open" virtual enviroment, I think by the begining of January you will be able to see something.
In the meanwhile you coul browse their mailing list... the url is:
http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/openvds/
Cheers!
Marcos
Yup, there's a bad news. They are charging very expensively for FreeVSD. I would really glad if someone out there, or just here at WHT, will continue the project.
palmtree 12-18-2001, 12:31 PM Originally posted by JeremyL
Where did you hear that at? I was tld by them it was still around.
I apologize for the confusion. A sales rep I talked to was mistaken on what she told me. I checked with another associate of mine (a current Ensim provider) and he corrected what she said. I emailed her back and brought this up and it appears she was thinking about something else, or ?? Didn't really say what she was thinking..
Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.. and I guess I should doublecheck what Sales people say ;)
laterz,
raqworld
UmBillyCord 12-18-2001, 01:17 PM I apologize for the confusion. A sales rep I talked to was mistaken on what she told me. I checked with another associate of mine (a current Ensim provider) and he corrected what she said. I emailed her back and brought this up and it appears she was thinking about something else, or ?? Didn't really say what she was thinking..
I highly doubt 'she' was misquoted. Ensim has the most trained/professional sales and support people I have seen in the CP business. If anyone has worked with them, they understand what I mean.
I don't want people reading this to think they were trying to "Bait and switch" or they are idiots who do not know their own product. The miscommunication could have been on the buyers side.
davidb 12-18-2001, 01:22 PM You talking about a control panel for it, for users? If that is the case, you can try the Webadminscripts. I have still been unable to get them working 100%
palmtree 12-18-2001, 01:26 PM I agree there was a miscommunication. However I disagree that Ensim is perfect and doesn't make mistakes. I also work with the Ensim product and have delt with numerous people at Ensim to get as much info about it as I can and yes, sometimes I get different answers- especially with pricing. When they start at retail and work down, you're going to get different answers.
The miscommunication could have been on my side, however I was posting this information out of an email. I would suggest that you don't assume everyone is an idiot and that large companies don't make mistakes.
UmBillyCord 12-18-2001, 01:55 PM I would suggest that you don't assume everyone is an idiot and that large companies don't make mistakes.
Give me a break. Don't go trying to paint someone with "everyones" and stupid remarks like I said "large companies don't make mistakes". I never said that, so quit adding to my post.
You flat out said an Ensim rep told you the main part of their billing model has been removed. One that numerous host are paying. You then come here and say -
I emailed her back and brought this up and it appears she was thinking about something else, or ?? Didn't really say what she was thinking..
which someone could read as a bait and switch or that she was an idiot. You added the "??" to invoke this. My point was to say *from experience as a year long user of SX*, I think the miscommunication could have came from somwehere else other then Ensim.
You have done a lot of posting on Ensim, yet you do not use them. You incorrctly posted something regarding their pricing, then tried to pass it off on Ensim as their mistake. Bottom line.
Most of us end up posting something that is wrong or can be proven incorrect, I do it sometimes too. Just live with it.
palmtree 12-18-2001, 02:08 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
I never said that, so quit adding to my post.
You have done a lot of posting on Ensim, yet you do not use them. You incorrctly posted something regarding their pricing, then tried to pass it off on Ensim as their mistake. Bottom line.
Most of us end up posting something that is wrong or can be proven incorrect, I do it sometimes too. Just live with it.
I apologize for giving the impression of adding to your post. However, you do the same by saying I thought that the Ensim rep was an idiot. She was not. Nor did I say she was. I beleive the problem was both of our mistakes, hers for not making the email clearer, and mine for going and posting something I didn't have the full story on. And you are incorrect, I DO use the Ensim Webppliance platform- just upgraded to v3. Another assumption on your part.
It amazes me people have nothing better to do during the day to start trouble about such small things. I've already apologized once for the post- and I think that should be good enough.
Why make more out of it than neccessary? To use your verbage, Just Live with it.
This will be my final post on this thread.
Laterz,
raqworld
SoftWareRevue 12-18-2001, 02:11 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
. . . . . . .Most of us end up posting something that is wrong or can be proven incorrect . . . . .Guilty. :D
UmBillyCord 12-18-2001, 03:08 PM I DO use the Ensim Webppliance platform- just upgraded to v3. Another assumption on your part.
SX and WP LS are two seperate offerings. You have been talking about SX. Eitherway, Ensim is a good company and if you inquire about the *flagship* software, you are not going to get misquoted by a sales person who "Didn't really say what she was thinking". You will have to haggle with price, but you will get an honest retail price. ;)
Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.. and I guess I should doublecheck what Sales people say
Or what you hear. :)
Laterz
allera 12-27-2001, 10:13 AM Did anyone ever end up finding a set of CPs for FreeVSD? I care not for ProVSD so don't even mention that. I have heard about PHP scripts floating around somewhere for it, but I cannot find them. Do they come with the distro?
I'm mainly looking for Server Admin, VDS Admin, and User Admin CPs, but I'll take any of the above :) Maybe I'll just make ones of my own...
ckpeter 12-27-2001, 12:42 PM The php script should be under the download section.
Goto the download section, click the header that says the php admin script, and a page will load which tells you the ftp site as well as the login info.
Peter
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