Signed up more than 24 hours ago, but we still haven't gotten a confirmation. They said in their website that they will set up the account within an hour. Me and my friends (who run our site) contacted their sales and support departments since yesterday (twice!) but we still didn't get a response.

Now, I just found out that it seems my friend who was the one who signed up for our site did not see that the order form was not secure. So now we're worrying that these crooks have gotten hold of her credit card numbers and might use these.

Can anybody help us? We don't know under what name Champion host will be charging the card with so we couldn't confirm with the bank.

Anybody hosted by Champion Host? I really need to know what company name they use when they charge your credit card so that we can get a chargeback if ever.


For future Champion host clients... watch out! If they can't even answer a simple question for a new account, then this company is a thief!

What does it matter what name they use. You put your credit card number on an insecure form. Report the card lost or stolen NOW! That'll get the number shut off and you a new one so they can't charge anything on the card.

Not to stick up for the host in this matter, but things don't always go smoothly. It happens. Regardless if you used a secure form, or a non-secure form, the bums still would have your information.

Here is what I would do. I would wait another day. If I did not get any contact, I would go elsewhere. Wait until my creditcard bill came in or checked the info out on line. If I saw a charge from them, I would send them a pleasant email, and ask them nicely to credit my account, that there was a mistake and explain it. Don't call them bums or robbers in the email. Be civil. Explain to them that you wouldn't like to dispute the charge and possibly avoid a chargeback.

Speeking of the word chargeback. If you ever go into biz for yourself, you will fully understand the meaning of this word. I cannot stand people who barf up the word chargeback as their first means of setlement.

Just wanted to comment: this was the worst order form handling I ever seen.

1. No https
2. They are using a simple form mailer to get the entered info emailed to them
3. it is not even their own formmailer - they are using the free service at bravenet


Brrrr

http://www.championhost.com/hosting.htm

take a look at this page , unlimited everything ... we all know what that ,means :D

And the order form doesnt even have any sort of verification, you can keep clicking submit and processing orders.

The even have the courage to put 'SECURE ORDER FORM' as their page title!!

Kind of suckie on their part. It does make you wonder how they are handling transactions.

Isnt this the host who stole countless number of designs and after like the 9th one finally said o man our designer did it not us.

He he, I thought they looked familar

Lmao and it looks like they stole again on this design
look at the 4 block images in the upper right table

now go here
http://www.savantnetworks.com


Man these guyz jsut wont give it up

They are like everyones hosting company at one website.

lol

Geez - some people don't have any brains do they!!

Atleast they are not hotlinking the images to save bandwidth.......LOL

lmao actually when i entered the site ( i have cookies set to prompt ) That other site tried to set a cookie so i was like wtf and looked at source and it appears he again forgot to take out a few javascripts i wonder if he gets shut off from rackspace again if they will turn him back on ?

Originally posted by antisocial
For future Champion host clients... watch out! If they can't even answer a simple question for a new account, then this company is a thief!

It really would pay to do your homework before signing up with a host. Champion host has been discussed to death here, quite recently in fact.

First, cancel your card, and then search the forums for "champion host" to find out who you just signed up with.

-Bob

Originally posted by craftywolf
Regardless if you used a secure form, or a non-secure form, the bums still would have your information.

With an insecure form, everyone else along the way will have that credit card information as well. Therein lies the problem.

FYI, champion host is a thief. It's common knowledge, although, sadly not common enough.

-Bob

The image with the clouds on the main page was stolen from hostway.com's dedicated server page awhile ago. Only theirs probably wasn't pixelated. Actually I could be wrong, but I think that most of the images are from an old hostway design.

From: http://www.championhost.com/hosting.htm


<FORM action=http://savantnetworks.com/ method=get>
<TR bgColor=#CCCCCC>
<TD width=4 height=19>
<p align="center">
...

and

<script language='javascript'
src='http://hc2.humanclick.com/hc/79398543/x.js?
cmd=file&file=chatScript3&site=79398543
&imageUrl=http://www.savantnetworks.com/images/'>
</script>
<!-- END HumanTag Monitor. -->
Sad, just pathetic and sad as always...

Go to their http://www.championhost.com , who can be first to find out where those 3 images on the front page have been stolen from?

The ones that say

"Web hosting plans from..."

"Ecommerce solutions"

"Resellers"

I like their 'what are customers are saying' .. LMAO

Ooo! Ooo! I know! http://www.centrisweb.net/. And it's not just the images. He copied the plan info page (badly - font sizes do not match). On the ecommerce page, at the bottom he removed the PayNet image but kept it in the text. On the resellers page, he tried to remove "CW.200" from the Getting Started section. But he left the extra space. Oops!

Isn't it interesting how his features change with his site design :D :D :D

(Hopefully somebody has notified centris)

its weird I see this guy publicized alot! He has 2 hostsearch banners press releases a static link and an article about him in Webhosting Magazine. He can afford all this but not a design of his own and SSL? something seems wrong.

this is my real exp!!! (2 weeks ago)
1. after i sign up with them (i expect 1 hours for start my acc) 2 days later nothing happen
2. i cancel to payment immediate to my credit card company i have to sign in a form..
credit card company told me that the money that they charge me is not the same with that i pay
and i notice that the company in the bill is not champion host but another one else (i forgot it)
real bad exp
zhai

Originally posted by TechnoHosts
its weird I see this guy publicized alot! He has 2 hostsearch banners press releases a static link and an article about him in Webhosting Magazine. He can afford all this but not a design of his own and SSL? something seems wrong. That's one of the saddest parts of the whole CH circus. With all the publicity this guy gets, if he would just put up a legitimate site and try to run the service correctly he could be turning a good business.

I have come to the conclusion that this guy doesn't copy websites because he's lazy, or doesn't know how to design, or anything else. I believe he copies websites because he wants attention. Like the school boy who likes the girl sitting next to him and pulls her hair to get her attention.

Champion Host, currently gets 30 new accounts a day. Its hard to set them up on time. We do our best to set-up all accounts on time. The customers who started this threat did not specify his domain name, so i can not see if its a real customer. The image from savant networks, we have a right to use their image. The images from centrisweb.net is owned by one of my friends, he tolled me I can use them. If the customers has a problem he should contact me directly. We have a large compaign with hostsearch.com, and we are extremely busy. I apologize if we cant return customers e-mail in a timley manner. We are under staffed, we are hiring new employees, we should have new staff hired by the end of the year,

Thank You
Igor Amburg

I'll be the first to apologize if what you say is true . But, if what you say is true, how hard is it to get your own images and give a good impression, why do you promise 1 hour delivery if you cannot keep to it, and at least use a secured form for orders (on the web site it says you offer SSL, but you dont use it yourself?).

And is the bandwith for the platinum package really Unlimited?? .... i cant find a TOS anywhere.

Whoops, my mistake! How foolish of me to think that you had a license to copy basically the entire CentrisWeb website. Silly me!

And if you really do get, as you say, thirty new accounts per day, why the shiz can't you afford a secure server? Why are you using an unencrypted, third-party plain text email system over an unsecure server to take order information, which includes credit cards? What a great idea.

Oh, allending, I found the policies at http://www.championhost.com/policy.htm

By the way, nice security certificate over here (https://www.championhost.com:8443/). Your expired certificate makes me confident in your security.

:D :D :D :D :D

Ooo! Ooo! And your meta tags say "Packages starting as low as $19.95/mo." But Mr. Champion host! I thought your plans (http://www.championhost.com/hosting.htm) started at $7.95!

And on your domain names page, why do I get the error: "Warning, your ID is invalid. Contact technical support." when I try to register? Bet you're raking in the cash with that feature.

And finally, this section of HTML code on your Domain Names page was just plain confusing:


<A
href="http://www.ibm.com/index.htm#main"><font color="#FFFFFF"><IMG height=1
alt="Skip to main content" src="template_files/c.gif" width=1
border=0></font></A>


A link to IBM using a non-existant image? I'm sure there is an obvious explanation for that one

This is fun, although not necessarily nice.;)

Over transfer (traffic) may be charged at up to $.15 per megabyte, to be determined on a case by case basis with Champion Host as the sole arbiter.

15 cents a megabyte?!? Isnt that $150 per gigabyte?? Holy s!

If you get 30 new accounts a day, then you should beable to get a designer to make you a great design for $1000's instead of "Barrowing" images from other sites. :pimp:

Originally posted by championhost
Champion Host, currently gets 30 new accounts a day. Its hard to set them up on time. We do our best to set-up all accounts on time. The customers who started this threat did not specify his domain name, so i can not see if its a real customer. The image from savant networks, we have a right to use their image. The images from centrisweb.net is owned by one of my friends, he tolled me I can use them. If the customers has a problem he should contact me directly. We have a large compaign with hostsearch.com, and we are extremely busy. I apologize if we cant return customers e-mail in a timley manner. We are under staffed, we are hiring new employees, we should have new staff hired by the end of the year,

Thank You
Igor Amburg '

Champion host you are a thief and i have no respect for you i have to battle daily with websites stealing my images and hotlinking to files, and you are just the same as those.
You steal from people
and i cant wait till the day that you get shut down

btw i sent emails to all the people you stole images from and another one to rackshack
i believe you have been shut off once before for stealing designs maybe this will be the last one and we can kiss you goodbye

also ever heard of a ssl ?

Originally posted by MarcD
'

Champion host you are a thief and i have no respect for you i have to battle daily with websites stealing my images and hotlinking to files, and you are just the same as those.
You steal from people
and i cant wait till the day that you get shut down

btw i sent emails to all the people you stole images from and another one to rackshack
i believe you have been shut off once before for stealing designs maybe this will be the last one and we can kiss you goodbye

also ever heard of a ssl ?

Yes, i heard of ssl, you might want to look again on championhost.com.

Originally posted by allending


15 cents a megabyte?!? Isnt that $150 per gigabyte?? Holy s!

Where did you get this from, it says 5 dollars per gig

Few hours ago:

"Over transfer (traffic) may be charged at up to $.15 per megabyte, to be determined on a case by case basis with Champion Host as the sole arbiter."

Now:

"Over transfer (traffic) may be charged at up to $5 dollars per gigabyte, to be determined on a case by case basis with Champion Host as the sole arbiter."

Are you accusing me of making all this up? FYI, I just cut and paste what I saw.... I guess my computer changed it for me . I feel so terrible... :(

Championhost , heres a tip:

Changing things on your website because of this thread and then trying to pass that off as the original site is totally unprofessional, and will convince VERY FEW people here. Most of us actually have some semblence of intelligence.

Originally posted by championhost
Champion Host, currently gets 30 new accounts a day. Its hard to set them up on time. We do our best to set-up all accounts on time. The customers who started this threat did not specify his domain name, so i can not see if its a real customer. The image from savant networks, we have a right to use their image. The images from centrisweb.net is owned by one of my friends, he tolled me I can use them. If the customers has a problem he should contact me directly. We have a large compaign with hostsearch.com, and we are extremely busy. I apologize if we cant return customers e-mail in a timley manner. We are under staffed, we are hiring new employees, we should have new staff hired by the end of the year,

Thank You
Igor Amburg


That was my friend who wrote there, Championhost. We found your site through hostsearch, and silly me didn't tell her and my other friend all about SSL. They thought your service would be very very good because it looked impressive.

And yes, we wrote you twice. One was my email (skysenshi@yahoo.com) and the other was antisocial's (noodlechan00@yahoo.com). Our third friend is supposed to contact you again, but I told her to wait. We contacted you directly but to no avail, hence I told her to go to webhostingtalk.com Now, I'm seeing that I was right in leading her here because we finally got a reaction from you.

We're still waiting for that account to be setup. But at least give us the benefit of an answer if you couldn't setup immediately. That "account will be set up within an hour" tag on your website certainly had her fooled.

Originally posted by skysenshi



That was my friend who wrote there, Championhost. We found your site through hostsearch, and silly me didn't tell her and my other friend all about SSL. They thought your service would be very very good because it looked impressive.

And yes, we wrote you twice. One was my email (skysenshi@yahoo.com) and the other was antisocial's (noodlechan00@yahoo.com). Our third friend is supposed to contact you again, but I told her to wait. We contacted you directly but to no avail, hence I told her to go to webhostingtalk.com Now, I'm seeing that I was right in leading her here because we finally got a reaction from you.

We're still waiting for that account to be setup. But at least give us the benefit of an answer if you couldn't setup immediately. That "account will be set up within an hour" tag on your website certainly had her fooled.
What domain name was it for,

Originally posted by championhost

What domain name was it for,


Thanks for replying. I just sent you a private message regarding the details. Um... actually she's a little paranoid in giving out the domain in case spam arise... so it's in a private message.

Thanks again.

Originally posted by skysenshi



Thanks for replying. I just sent you a private message regarding the details. Um... actually she's a little paranoid in giving out the domain in case spam arise... so it's in a private message.

Thanks again.

I have located your order. I am verry sorry for the wait. You should get an e-mail from me in 5 minutes with your accont information. I have given you a free month of hosting.

Again, Sorry
Igor Amburg

Thanks... She's already uploaded... However, we're testing the IP address to see if the site's working and we're getting this message:

"This is the Plesk Server Administrator™ default page.
If you see this page it means:

1) hosting for this domain is not configured
or
2) there's no such domain registered in Plesk.

For more information please contact igor@championhost.com"


Oh, and it says on the control panel that the limit is 10MB and traffic is 1000MB, but on your site it says that the webspace should be 300MB and 15GB bandwidth... Are we missing something?

Originally posted by championhost


Yes, i heard of ssl, you might want to look again on championhost.com.

Glad to see you have a secure now
howerver i dont know if sending the contents of there personal info and credit card number away from your server to a non sercure 3rd party is the answer you are still jepordizing your customers credit card #'s

<form action="http://pub25.bravenet.com/emailfwd/senddata.php" method="post" encType="multipart/form-data">

OK
Why do people sign up with this sort of host when there are 1001 respectable, properly run hosts out there?

I had a look at Championhost.com and their only USP's seem to be:

Low Price (but not that low)
Unlimited on some things (but not bandwidth)
High bandwidth allowances (relatively)

Given that most sites don't use a lot of bandwidth or disk space, people might be better looking for a host who provides a bit less for a similar amount of money.

People have been getting sucked in by these sorts of operations for a while now.
How many of them have we seen disappear?

There must be more to it than price.
We run a very cheap hosting brand alongside our main ones and sell about 1 plan a week from it.

What is their secret.....

Gordon

Good for you, Champion Host. You put your order form page on a secure server. Too bad that doesn't help much, if at all. Now I guess I have to change my comment to this:

"Why are you using an unencrypted, third-party plain text email system over an unsecure server to take order information, which includes credit cards?"

Gee, no change. I wonder why.

Originally posted by skysenshi
Thanks... She's already uploaded... However, we're testing the IP address to see if the site's working and we're getting this message:

"This is the Plesk Server Administrator™ default page.
If you see this page it means:

1) hosting for this domain is not configured
or
2) there's no such domain registered in Plesk.

For more information please contact igor@championhost.com"


Oh, and it says on the control panel that the limit is 10MB and traffic is 1000MB, but on your site it says that the webspace should be 300MB and 15GB bandwidth... Are we missing something?
I have replied to your e-mail explaining the problem.

I suggest you contact YOUR clients using e-mail, not this forum! ;)

Originally posted by 311
I suggest you contact YOUR clients using e-mail, not this forum! ;)

Agreed, From what I have seen championhost has ripped SO much sites till now and I dont really think every webmaster is his friend as he claims they are.

Originally posted by championhost

I have replied to your e-mail explaining the problem.


Unfortunately, the email did not address the second problem -- why does the control panel indicate that her allocation is only 10 MB (when it should be 300MB) and her bandwidth limit is only 1000MB (when it should be 15GB)?

I sent you another email regarding this problem. I have already pointed her domain to your nameservers, but I only need the 411 about the control panel stats.

Thanks.

WoW :rolleyes:

Originally posted by skysenshi



Unfortunately, the email did not address the second problem -- why does the control panel indicate that her allocation is only 10 MB (when it should be 300MB) and her bandwidth limit is only 1000MB (when it should be 15GB)?

I sent you another email regarding this problem. I have already pointed her domain to your nameservers, but I only need the 411 about the control panel stats.

Thanks.

wow! :D

Because he plays a little game..."no way is s/he going to use 300 mg so I'll just allot this much". I was with them last year and a year ago, around this time, I ran out of disk space three times in a month. I had 300 mg but was using less then 50. Also, I wasn't the only one.

Champion Hosts's website is now blocked by Websense, LOL

Wow, how many times this year has his website been changed? I guess that blows his permission theory on using other peoples graphics.

Originally posted by rayhne
Because he plays a little game..."no way is s/he going to use 300 mg so I'll just allot this much". I was with them last year and a year ago, around this time, I ran out of disk space three times in a month. I had 300 mg but was using less then 50. Also, I wasn't the only one.


Ah... so the logs are included in the space allocation...

Jeez! And the site my friend is running may not occupy 300MB (in fact, it's only about 2+MB large) but it's definitely going to eat up more than 10GB bandwidth!

And now nobody answers the emails regarding the control panel allocation mistake...

Where did you transfer, btw?

lol give him a break...

Originally posted by sasjamal
lol give him a break...

Why? He doesn't deserve it.

Well, I think everyone here deserves a break, don't we? :) At least I am if I was in his shoes. Plus, I believe that Champion Host has already gotten the point.

Merry Christmas to you all!

Originally posted by sasjamal
lol give him a break...


if we count on both hands all the times he has been caught stealing designs does each each one of those count as a break ?

Originally posted by skysenshi

Where did you transfer, btw?

I transfered to a community-oriented web host that specializes in slash fan fiction sites.

Old Igor refused to give me a refund (I had paid for a year) so I set up with another host (more community-oriented). I had intended to use the space on CH for a mirror site (I had about 5 months left) but once I transfered the domain name, he deleted everything and then claimed that because there wasn't a domain name, I couldn't use the site at all. (I had planned to work it through the IP number.) I tried to get ahold of him so I could get another temp domain name set up but he never replied. (He had also never replied to emails before I transferred the domain name warning him I planned to move it and would there be any problems with using the IP number?)

This was during the infamous time the **** hit the fan (run out of disk space), right before the holidays last year. CH took all support phone numbers off their site (and when you could get ahold of them, you only got the answering machine) and would not respond to emails. (BTW, there is only one person working CH and that's Igor. Don't be fooled by his claims of 60+ employees and hiring new staff)

By then I was so sick of him I just wrote off the remainder of my payment and am now residing with a wonderful web host that meets all my needs.

lol oh well he might jus be a kid? so if he is then he deserves moe breakz?

He didn't sound like a kid.

Champion Host is under construction. Our new site will be ready in 24-48 hours.


People come on lets help him find the next design he can "use".:stickout

Originally posted by one_web


People come on lets help him find the next design he can "use".:stickout I say we give him http://www.meemsites.com , since sasjamal is so anxious to "give him a break."

I think he will like Intelligent Hosting better :stickout

Originally posted by rayhne


I transfered to a community-oriented web host that specializes in slash fan fiction sites.

Old Igor refused to give me a refund (I had paid for a year) so I set up with another host (more community-oriented). I had intended to use the space on CH for a mirror site (I had about 5 months left) but once I transfered the domain name, he deleted everything and then claimed that because there wasn't a domain name, I couldn't use the site at all. (I had planned to work it through the IP number.) I tried to get ahold of him so I could get another temp domain name set up but he never replied. (He had also never replied to emails before I transferred the domain name warning him I planned to move it and would there be any problems with using the IP number?)

This was during the infamous time the **** hit the fan (run out of disk space), right before the holidays last year. CH took all support phone numbers off their site (and when you could get ahold of them, you only got the answering machine) and would not respond to emails. (BTW, there is only one person working CH and that's Igor. Don't be fooled by his claims of 60+ employees and hiring new staff)

By then I was so sick of him I just wrote off the remainder of my payment and am now residing with a wonderful web host that meets all my needs.


Hmmm... unfortunately my friend's site is also adult oriented. If she transfers to a new host successfully, I might also think of transferring my own site.

Goodness! The control panel just gave me a reminder that we now have 22MB usage (yesterday it was 2+MB only)... and we didn't upload a new thing! And the allocation shouldn't have been 10MB only....

So I was right, the CP does count the logs. And Igor is not answering my emails regarding the 10MB/1GB allocation that the control panel has. Do you get automatically charged?



I don't think it would be so easy to give the guy a break as sasjamal says, especially when your credit card information is on his database. I don't think me and my friends are that forgiving.

Check out the site in Netscape, lol...Is it standard for most hosting companies to have links to IBM's content?

<TD width=260 bgcolor="#000000"><A
href="http://www.ibm.com/index.htm#main"><font color="#FFFFFF"><IMG height=1
alt="Skip to main content" src="template_files/c.gif" width=1
border=0></font></A><b><font color="#FFFFFF" style="font-size: 20pt">CHAMPION
HOST</font></b></TD>

Where did he get those images from now?

I've seen that site before!!! I'm not sure where but I know I have seen it.