ok i can start apache using
[root@ignite bin]# ./apachectl start
fine everything runs ok etc
but when i try to start with startssl it doesnt start heres the log..

[Sat Jun 26 02:22:32 2004] [crit] (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 217.112.89.173 port 80

there isnt anything running on port 80! i recently installed grsecurity

Linux ignite 2.4.26-grsec #3 Wed Jun 23 19:57:16 BST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

if that helps i have not got gradm running so acl shouldnt be a problem.
help :D

fuser 80/tcp

[root@ignite bin]# fuser 80/tcp
[root@ignite bin]# ./apachectl startssl
Apache/1.3.31 mod_ssl/2.8.18 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
In order to read them you have to provide us with the pass phrases.

Server ignite.voidhosting.com:443 (RSA)
Enter pass phrase:

Ok: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.
./apachectl startssl: httpd started
[root@ignite bin]# ps aux | grep httpd
[root@ignite bin]#

again..

[Sat Jun 26 03:38:54 2004] [crit] (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 217.112.89.173 port 80

:(

Either there is a service already running on that port (well, there definitely is by the time you receive that error or you wouldn't receive it) or you probably have a couple different "Listen 80" lines in your configuration file perhaps.

yes..its true..if you have got such an error its means that some program or process is using the port 80...please execute this command

netstat -lpn|grep :80 and see if there is any process using port 80

if there is one ..then kill that process and restart apache once more :-D

nothing was running on that port.. he ran fuser 80/tcp that would have listed what was running. try it for port 443