I know this is probably not the right site, but I was just wondering.

Does anyone know the deal with dialup? Are people just moving to broadband or is there still a place for dialup (ya know 56K)?

Will there always be a dialup customer?

I remember the day of ISPs, now it's the day of Web Hosts :)

Your thoughts?

Dialup is "almost" dead!

I think there will always be a certain number of internet users who are ok with there 56k simply because they don't use the internet for other than reading news and sending email.

Thus, dialup will not die anytime soon...but dammm! I could never go back to a 56k. Never!

;)

Dialup will not be dead for 2-3 years. Maybe even longer. More than 80% of users still use dialup. A majority are AOL and freeisp users.

Its still very hard to get dsl or cable in some places.

And I pose the question to everyone not in the United States:

Whats your opinion? Is a majority of the connections across the world some form of dialup?

Whats the prediction for this sector?

Originally posted by ClusterMania
Its still very hard to get dsl or cable in some places.


Tell me about it. I live out in the middle-of-no-where, USA. We JUST got stable PHONE LINES about a year and a half ago...so now our dialup connections actually stay connected for more than 15 mins at a time. I doubt we'll see any type of DSL/cable internet soon. :(

On the other hand - I have a beautiful lake view out my front window...and can feed the deer and take a walk in the woods out my back door. We don't even have a lock on our front door.

I think it's a good trade. :D

--Tina

Originally posted by nexpoint
And I pose the question to everyone not in the United States:

Whats your opinion? Is a majority of the connections across the world some form of dialup?

Whats the prediction for this sector?

Dialup is still the go in Australia. Telstra's ADSL is just about the only offer on the table for high speed access, and it's just not particularly attractive - http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/adsl/pricing.asp. High pricing, low download. It's been discussed a few times before, but bandwidth prices in Australia are just too high. Not enough wires to go around.

Hi!
In india dialups are mostly used in homes.
Most offices have leased lines (we have a leased line). Others have cable or DSL.
Universities mostly have an direct earthlink.
But dialups are still a major factor here. Every city has atleast 10 dialup provider and say only 4 leased line providers... :(

Have a great day :)

regards
amar

Dial up is so alive and kicking you guys really have no idea. You see some poll or whatever on a site that shows 87% + of Americians are using high speed or whatever and you think that means, who uses dial up now. The fact is those polls are taken from people who actively use the web which are of course the people with high speed. The REAL numbers, according to CNN and other sources say that over 80% of people are still on dial up.

Also people say, why do you need dial up now that there is sat internet. Sat internet still requires a dial up account and they are working on this problem. Dial up is not dead people, wish it were but sorry.

Here in the UK, dialup is still alive - cable / dsl isn't available in the small villages, like the one I live in, and many are unwilling to pay the large fees for ISDN, when the speed increases aren't that great.

Dialup is still the go in Australia. Telstra's ADSL is just about the only offer on the table for high speed access, and it's just not particularly attractive - http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/adsl/pricing.asp. High pricing, low download. It's been discussed a few times before, but bandwidth prices in Australia are just too high. Not enough wires to go around.

Hehe, Bandwidth is really expensive in Australia... Last time I check, the wholesale price was something like AUD$160 per gb, which is about US$80 per gb.

I use dialup back here in Pakistan. I must admit from a slow worthles transfer rate of 0.05 k/s it has gone upto 5kb/s :)

Dialup is far from dead here, although cable is rapidly growing. I just got a cable connection for my home and wow is it a change from dialup :) Although its even 1/4 as fast as in USA nor will it be anytime soon.

Still most users will continue to use dialup as leased lines and cable connections are expensive.

- Asher...

Originally posted by AffordableHost



Tell me about it. I live out in the middle-of-no-where, USA. We JUST got stable PHONE LINES about a year and a half ago...so now our dialup connections actually stay connected for more than 15 mins at a time. I doubt we'll see any type of DSL/cable internet soon. :(

On the other hand - I have a beautiful lake view out my front window...and can feed the deer and take a walk in the woods out my back door. We don't even have a lock on our front door.

I think it's a good trade. :D

--Tina


Hey can we trade places? I'd love to spend a week by the lake. its a big change from the city life. If i open my office window, i still get that burning smell from ground zero and the view of city hall :)

As for dial up. Even in the city, alot of people still use dial up. Not alot of people want to shell out the extra cash for broadband. A majority of people use the internet for email and email only. Right now, most people can get dsl. Cable is still another year away, its mostly available in manhattan. I will admit, once you go broadband, you never want to go back :)

People will need dialup until all hotel rooms have internet access. :)

ADSL in Taiwan is for only30Us$ per month, unlimited bandwidth. The actual download speed is around 40~60kbps which isn't bad....

I am suprised to heard the high rates elsewhere espc in developed countries..

DailUp? NO.....with the phone and Isp charges......30us$ is a deal....

Hi!
In india dialups are mostly used in homes.
Most offices have leased lines (we have a leased line). Others have cable or DSL.
Universities mostly have an direct earthlink.
But dialups are still a major factor here. Every city has atleast 10 dialup provider and say only 4 leased line providers...

Have a great day

regards
amar


>MOST< offices do not use leased lines, they are a lot more expensive than in delhi or maharashtra in other areas. I have to agree cable and dsl's are getting popular but only in metros. Dialups still constitute about 70% of all the internet access in India (wild guess but I am sure it revolves around that)

Dialup connections are long from dead. I have been hearing people talking about this for almost six years now.

I live in the Republic of Ireland, and broadband isn't even available here yet -- we rank #27 out of 30 in the OECD regarding fast Internet access.

Basically you end up paying hundreds of dollars per month for a very slow, unstable 56k dialup line here.

Edit: Of course we've got our servers located in the NAC.net datacenter, so don't worry about them being in Ireland. ;)

What's weird is Canada is regarded as the most connected Country. It terms of the ratio of people to people with internet access, we rank the highest. We also have the highest ratio for users who have internet to users who have high speed. Just something I thought was weird. I would have thought the US would beat us but I guess not.

'Fraid you are wrong netsolutions, South Korea is officially the most connected country, with a large proportion of internet users having a broadband connection. Finland is second.

Regards
Matt

In South Korea there getting 1mb down, 500k up for 16us $ a month. God dam crazy. I pay £15 a month for BT connection that blows, disconnects every 2 hours. ADSL is a thing of dreams in this place :(

Originally posted by ash
In South Korea there getting 1mb down, 500k up for 16us $ a month. God dam crazy. I pay £15 a month for BT connection that blows, disconnects every 2 hours. ADSL is a thing of dreams in this place :(

In certain areas of Japan, you can get 2Mb SDSL connections for $25 / month

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
'Fraid you are wrong netsolutions, South Korea is officially the most connected country, with a large proportion of internet users having a broadband connection. Finland is second.

Regards
Matt
Not according to CNN

I can't see dialup going for a while. The level of service from broadband companies really has to increase in order for broadband to take over. I had a terrible time with AOL/Verizon getting a DSL company's signal off my line. They both pointed fingers at each other -- even when I had them on a conference call. I must admit, it's really a nightmare. I ended up adding DSL to my second number because they were unable to resolve my problem. Once it starts working it's OK, but the whole process of getting setup needs to be improved drastically. Plus, phone companies aren't going to put new lines in so other companies can sell DSL services on their line. There is no incentive to do it.

Originally posted by netsolutions

Not according to CNN Of course all CNN would do is report the result of somebody's survey. They, like any new source, aren't an authority on this or anything else. The important point would be whose survey, how do they define their terms, and what is their methodology. Usually in statistics there are from several to many answers to any question.

That said, I haven't seen and can't now find any numbers to back up the South Korea assertion. The Computer Industry Almanac, on the other hand, did claim that the answer was Canada:

http://www.c-i-a.com/200010iuc.htm

That was in 1999. You can see that two years before that Canada was 7th and Finland was number 1. They show the US as steady at 4th, and no mention of South Korea in the top 15.

But that was two years ago (a more recent report is available, if anyone wants to shell out $1000). We could expect that two years later, things have changed, and the current numbers from Nua Internet Surveys suggest that they have. While not appearing in as easy read a format as c-i-a's, Nua suggests that usage in Canada has flattened: 42.3% of the population in June 1999, and 45.7% in July 2001. Compare that to the US numbers: 39.37% in July 1999, and 59.4% in July 2001. According to Nua, then, the US is the "most connected" country. They show South Korea in July at 46.4% (so, now ahead of Canada), and Finland at 43.93% -- but the last month available is August 2000. Of course, these are numbers compiled from a bunch of different sources. And while the c-i-a numbers are for users 16 and over, Nua's are "adults and children." Aren't statistics fun?

Really for anyone interested in internet stats the Nua site is worth checking out. I'd recommend starting here:

http://www.nua.net/surveys/analysis/graphs_charts/comparisons/index.html

Another one that I like: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

"there are three types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. "
- Mark Twain

;)

As far as I know, South Korea is #1 in terms of broadband connectivity. They also have the world's lowest prices for broadband. That's backed by OECD statistics.

If my memory serves me right there was an article on Cnet a few months ago that put South Korea first and Canada a close second as well.

Interesting....

I got my figures from a couple of reports, as published in internet magazines, on on various websites, although it was that long ago, I don't remember specifically which ones...

HI Varun,
In Kerala atleast (where I stay) most of the offices have leased lines.
We too have a leased line from Wipro,
The major providers here for leased lines are Wipro, ipath, BPL and VSNL.
VSNL is cheaper in Cochin and Bombay than in other parts of India. When we worked out it is cheaper to have a leased line than a dailup if you are connected for more the 12 hours a day.
For us 24 hours connectivity is a must.....
So I guess we have to go for leased lines.
The only problem in India is that for leased lines from DOT after 64K one has to go for 2M. That's a huge jump. But bandwidth provider give 512/1024 etc... So its not very bad.

But yes many still use dialups... :)

Have a great day :)

regards
amar

Originally posted by KevlerS
I can't see dialup going for a while. The level of service from broadband companies really has to increase in order for broadband to take over. Exactly, and for a lot of customers the price would have to come down. In fact, referring back to that nua site, here's a report that says most dialup users are happy with it and don't plan to upgrade to broadband because dialup meets their needs:

http://www.nua.net/surveys/index.cgi?f=VS&art_id=905357414&rel=true

That refers to the US. But here's another report which speculates that most home and small business users in Europe will stick with dialup through at least 2005:

http://www.nua.net/surveys/index.cgi?f=VS&art_id=905356813&rel=true