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jeremiah23
12-10-2001, 11:27 AM
Hi all,

Just curious if rackshack is a reseller for cpanel, we are not sure of how well it would be to use plesk, all we hear are all the negatives plus we have never seen the user control panel. We have been using cpanel on our other servers we have with burst, and though we have no dislike for burst, but what they charge for bandwidth compared to rack is outrageous. Lets say i have 300 clients and they are all using 10 gig transfer that is 3000 gig with burst that is 9000 dollars with rack that 4500 dollars ( signifigant price decrease) in order to make a profit with burst with 300 customers at 9000 + 250 = 9250 so I must charge over 35 dollars while with rack shack it is 18 dollars per average client.
This is a high estimate but is a sound way to deduce what your maxmum cost will be if your customers use all of thier bandwidth.

Then this brings me to 2 dollar hosting which has been beat into the wall here. Who, what, where, when, why , and how????

Who would do this?
What on earth are you thinking?
Where do you get 10 gig for less than 2 dollars that you can even begin affording this?
When did you come up with this business plan?
Why, what you parents must have thought when you were born.
How many time did they drop you on your head?

Also has anyone noticed the little elves, beware of them.

sasjamal
12-10-2001, 01:58 PM
u oversell bandwith :)

i have clients thaat pay me 50 bucks a month for hosting on a 25gb plan or something i dont even konw.. and they use up lees then 100mb a month lol

jeremiah23
12-10-2001, 03:01 PM
you may be right and that may be what the average customers use, but you should never ever set up a business plan based on that assumption it is suicide. Always prepare for the worst, though average customer may never use beyond 100 MB, you don't know the kind of customers that may come to you server later and use everything you offer.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the past, and always watch out for the elves.

mdrussell
12-10-2001, 03:28 PM
Overselling brings the price down by a lot, and also the use of Cogent / Yipes or similar who charge much more competitive prices in terms of bandwidth.

Regards
Matt

smartbackups
12-10-2001, 03:34 PM
Every usage based business is premised on overselling.

Every ISP, ever dedicated connection provider and every hosting company does it. How you do it and to what ration depends on if you make money, lose money and what kind of reputation you have.

Most ISPs that are reputable short for a 7:1 to 10:1, some ISPs that just plain suck are around 30:1.

Most dedicated connection providers resells the same bandwidth 4 times. That is four T-1's for every T-1 of bandwidth they have.

Webhosting is somewhere in between there, I have found most customers, average customers, not the type that hang out here. ;) overestimate their usage by at least 10 times, both in disk space and transfer.

That is why so many of the unlimited transfer companies continue to prosper. The average web page is lucky to transfer 20MB of web traffic and 30 MB of mail a month.