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View Full Version : What is the deal with ENOM and TUCOW?


gemini_bwoy
06-10-2004, 07:54 PM
I realized that must companies with resellering their services throught them. So I went to check out thier sites for some info.

I found nothing. No Packages or Prices
All I saw was Pay $95(None refundable), and no storage or bandwidth??

Am I the only one missing something?
What really are this sites and what makes them so special?

-RorY

WorldInSite
06-10-2004, 08:31 PM
Resell DOMAINS, not webspace

DroveNet
06-11-2004, 05:18 AM
They resell domains and, in the case of OpenSRS from Tucows, also resell blogging software and SSL Certificates from GeoTrust.

Your payment of $95 on Tucows is the activation fee for your account. Tucows is slightly more complicated than Enom as your are required to sign and fax contracts for each service you wish to resell. Enom doesn't require this as far as we've experienced.

Tucows requires $95 initial payment plus some cash to fund your account.

Enom doesn't charge you for the account but requests $100 to initially fill the account.

pickles
06-11-2004, 07:56 AM
As of yesterday, Toucows started offering a web-site builder that runs on their servers. THe site when built is "FTP'd" to the clients web space.

Bob

aggidio
06-11-2004, 03:05 PM
Just call Tucows and they will get you all the pricing info you need, what makes them so special is there reliabilty as well as there experience. We use them and have no complaints although if your just looking for a cheap registrar they are not for you.

DroveNet
06-11-2004, 03:21 PM
Same here, we're glad we paid the fees and signed the contracts - they keep releasing new services at no extra cost and really do look after their clients and resellers.

gemini_bwoy
06-11-2004, 04:01 PM
Thankz, but
how do you know whether, to use them or not?

Drovenet, and aggidio why did you decide to use them??

DroveNet
06-11-2004, 04:48 PM
I used OpenSRS because I didn't find anyone else!

I then found Enom, and signed up because I was offered a free wholesale account (drawn into a sales ploy). But I don't regret the decision.

Enom is cheaper than Tucows but Tucows is very reliable and seems to be adding more and more services. However, you do have to sign contracts for Tucows and are therefore legally liable (or more so, it seems, that Enom). There's a disadvantage.

RoryErickson
06-11-2004, 05:44 PM
Personally, I prefer OpenSRS. I like their feature set and the domain management utilities that are given.

It's more a personal choice in my opinion. Both providers are great, it just depends what you're looking for and what suits your business best.

zoli
06-12-2004, 02:54 AM
Enom's prices are a lot better. And there are many advantages (not just the price) of using enom instead of OpenSRS. OpenSRS is one of the oldest player in the domain reseller market but they keep that $10+ cost for their resellers which makes many resellers to switch to enom.
You can signup for a free $8.95 enom account any time through one of their resellers.

webgusto
06-16-2004, 07:52 AM
eNom also has web hosting (Win2003 servers) you can resell, and it seems pretty straightforward. We have a few clients who need ASP there, since all of our own stuff is Linux. Their hosting is cheap enough (to the reseller) that I don't really care whether a new customer takes the eNom hosting or Linux hosting from my dedicated servers.

The only catch is that unless you have a direct contract with eNom (meaning you have shelled out a hefty deposit in advance), you are at the mercy of your parent reseller and their parent reseller etc all the way back to eNom for hosting pricing and domain pricing. The hosting pricing is a bit funny - every reseller back to eNom has to enable hosting pricing, and until they do, any hosting you sell will be at the parent's prices. When they notice this and raise the prices to make anything for themselves, it hits your customers the very next month. Ouch.

Basically, I am saying that you need a responsive provider. I got zero response when I needed the ETP (the company directly contracted with eNom) to set hosting prices and I was signed up through several layers of resellers. I was never able to determine for sure who the ETP even was. (I had bough a reseller account on eBay, so there was no business relationship between me and my provider.) So I ponied up the $6950 deposit to become an ETP.

For me, it was worth paying out the hefty deposit so I did not have to depend on a reseller. Your cash flow situation may dictate something else. But if you go with an eNom reseller, make sure the ETP will talk to you, and you aren't many levels removed and therefore unable to even determine who the ETP is.

There are several ETPs on this list besides myself. I am sure I can speak for the rest when I say that any of us will be glad to set you up as a reseller.

Bill

Choppy
06-17-2004, 07:28 PM
I was planning to become a OPENSRS reseller as i have been using there services for so long through other resellers but it seems now everyone is changing to ENOM.

I love the interface and everything that OPENSRS touches seems great to me..

Im confused though because i see the 95 dollars registration fee thats cool.. now how much do i have to fill up my account after that? How much is the min i can put in there? At the moment all i have is around 22 domains with them and most are my server domains. So i dont want to exactly over do it.

So if i but in around 100 dollars would i get the domain at 10$ dollars?

Im only interested in domains by the way ;)

Thanks for your help

StudioSever
07-09-2004, 05:52 PM
I have the same questions as Choppy.

"how much do i have to fill up my account after that? How much is the min i can put in there?"


regards,
Mitja

StudioSever
07-09-2004, 06:04 PM
hmm i found something in FAQ


Q:What is the minimum payment I can make to establish an account?



A: 144 There is no minimum payment. Tucows recommends prepaying one month of credit in advance. Canadian companies should deduct 7% GST when calculating account balances. For instance, if a Canadian Reseller remits US$250.00, we would need to deduct 7% for GST and the Reseller's account would reflect a US$232.50 payment.


guess this is it ....

regards,
Mitja

tandem
07-10-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by DroveNet
Same here, we're glad we paid the fees and signed the contracts - they keep releasing new services at no extra cost and really do look after their clients and resellers.
Which of their services are free?

shaokhee
07-10-2004, 01:39 PM
ENOM not accept Malaysia ip, is TUCOW accept? Anyone know? Thanks.

bigandy
07-10-2004, 03:38 PM
I use Tucows... personally I'd be hesitant to consider enom since they are the parent registrar of Domain Registry of America. I think that reflects badly on enom's ethics.

Tucows/OpenSRS are reliable but a bit expensive compared to some of the other options these days. I've tried a few different registrars and they have been less reliable than Tucows.

Regarding the extra services which Tucows provide, personally I've never found them very useful because they are the sort of things which conflict with your own product line. If your business is only domain registrations, then their extra services might be useful, but as a web host we have our own similar products to the ones they are offering and so have never used the Tucows extras.

Amdac
07-10-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by bigandy
I use Tucows... personally I'd be hesitant to consider enom since they are the parent registrar of Domain Registry of America. I think that reflects badly on enom's ethics.

Please explain.

frozen
07-10-2004, 05:02 PM
I was thinking the same thing, but maybe I am just high from the painkillers(kidney stones again).

We use Enom and are Directly under Enom(We are the ETP). I've never experienced any problems with Enom. Support is fast and friendly from what I have experienced(I have only delt with Jenifer). As stated above for us *nix hosts, it comes in handy for the few customers that need a real ASP environment. You do have to sign and fax an agreement if you are directly under Enom(The ETP) and want the "Premier"($6.95 .com), "Volume"($7.95 .com), or "Basic"($8.95 .com) accounts. The "Normal"($29.95 .com) and Reseller/Retail that are under other ETPs do not require Sign and Fax Agreements.

I can't speak for Tucows, as I have never used them for reselling domains.

Walter
07-10-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Amdac
Please explain.

Do a search on the forum, there are some old threads about this...

StudioSever
07-10-2004, 06:40 PM
... Tucows/OpenSRS are reliable but a bit expensive compared to some of the other options these days. ...


Can you explain this? Expensive in which way?

Their products or expensive to become a reseller (initial fees)?

fattee77
07-10-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by StudioSever
Can you explain this? Expensive in which way?

Their products or expensive to become a reseller (initial fees)?

I think he meant the reseller pricing for domains $10 is quite high.

StudioSever
07-11-2004, 04:44 AM
Oh I see.

I'm thinking become a reseller and I'm completing all the informations. About the initial fees, their offers, product prices and stuff.

However I didn't look anywhere else but at Tucows.


Any suggestions on a starting point of the whole "become a reseller" process? Are there any hidden fees, holes in contract, some facts that I must be careful at it before i sign anything?

regards,
Mitja

btw: I see that Enom is an option too. What are their prices per domain name (.com, net) appart from Tucows where costs 10$?