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monkeyhead
05-26-2004, 01:37 PM
Hi,
Is it better to buy reseller accounts in the uk or usa?Also im looking fo some hosts to take a look at

Kind Regards

Matt Seymour

joekushner
05-26-2004, 01:39 PM
depends on a few factors I would guess... price, network, etc. If your customers would be mainly US based, it would be good to have a box in the US. Likewise if more customers would be UK based, a server in the UK would be better.

Latency across the pond is relatively high if you have sites US targeted, but the traffic has to travel a few thousand miles

InSite
05-26-2004, 01:40 PM
Hi Matt - It depends on the end market you are looking to sell to. Where will most of your clients be based?

If you are in the UK, then you'll get slightly better response times from a UK server - but with a good US datacentre you'll not really spot the difference :)

Some like servers in their own country, or for search engine optimisation purposes - but to most end users it really doesnt make a lot of difference, as long as the connection is fast.

monkeyhead
05-26-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by InSite
Hi Matt - It depends on the end market you are looking to sell to. Where will most of your clients be based?

If you are in the UK, then you'll get slightly better response times from a UK server - but with a good US datacentre you'll not really spot the difference :)

Some like servers in their own country, or for search engine optimisation purposes - but to most end users it really doesnt make a lot of difference, as long as the connection is fast.
They will mostly be based uk but i might extend out to other places if i get going

InSite
05-26-2004, 01:48 PM
Knowing your audience is pretty key in this game, so if you plan to target a UK audience, being on a UK server will definitely be a positive selling point. :)

gilbert
05-26-2004, 01:49 PM
maybe start with one in the uk and then you could get another one in the us if needed really bad

monkeyhead
05-26-2004, 01:49 PM
ok thanks.
Have you any uk based hosts that allow reseller accounts you can recommend?
Regards
Matt Seymour

InSite
05-26-2004, 01:50 PM
Try putting in a host quote and specify what you are looking for - I'm sure you'll get some good offers. Here is the link:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/request.php

Good luck, and let us know how you get on!

MeToo
05-26-2004, 01:54 PM
Performance wise a good host in the DAC east datacenter may even give better service than a UK server. This DC has a direct pipeline to London and seems to proivde excellent connections to UK. Ultimately your service will hinge on the host you choose. Bluewho comes to mind when looking for a quality host in the DAC east center.

InSite
05-26-2004, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by MeToo
DAC east datacenter

You mean NAC - and yes, they are very good - we've been extremely happy with their performance in the UK. But there are valid reasons to go with a UK server if that is your market, from the slight performance jump, to marketing / SEO.

chaud
05-26-2004, 02:03 PM
Arent UK reseller accounts, or at least servers more expensive?

InSite
05-26-2004, 02:05 PM
I guess as with all things it depends where you go! Bandwidth is certainly more expensive.

The real question is though, don't many US reseller providers sell too cheaply? ;)

monkeyhead
05-26-2004, 02:21 PM
Try putting in a host quote and specify what you are looking for - I'm sure you'll get some good offers. Here is the link:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/request.php

Good luck, and let us know how you get on!
Done so thanks :)

MeToo
05-26-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by InSite
You mean NAC - and yes, they are very good - we've been extremely happy with their performance in the UK. But there are valid reasons to go with a UK server if that is your market, from the slight performance jump, to marketing / SEO. Yes, I got my acronyms (or brain) crosslinked. My real point was that the quality of the host is the key issue. If a quality host is chosen and the conx is as good as a more expensive UK host then go for it. As far us hosts selling too cheap I see two issues. One is whether the host provides triple AAA quality support for the money as in the case of Bluewho. And at a price that can be substantiated in the market.

Naturally a host that is underpriced and overselling is not a good choice.

InSite
05-26-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by MeToo
As far us hosts selling too cheap.... Bluewho

I wasnt talking about hosts such as Bluewho - I think their pricing and packages are extremely fair. It's the hosts that offer 5/200 gig packages for $10 that worry me ;)

Bandwidth IS more expensive in the UK, but that is probably due largely to do with the fact that there is generally less overselling here. With most US servers you get 1000GB bandwidth - but wouldnt you hate to be on a resellers server that was actually using that! With UK servers, you probably will only get around a quarter of the bandwidth, but that is a much more sensible figure for most hardware configurations.

MeToo
05-26-2004, 02:39 PM
I am not affiliated with Bluewho or any UK hosts. However, I feel your hacked up quote of my post is extremely unfair to Bluewho leaving the impression to casual viewers that I was making a synergy between cheap hosts and Bluewho. That is not the case. A fair and complete quote would clear that impression.

InSite
05-26-2004, 02:47 PM
Sorry - that's how I read your post, which is why I jumped to their defense.

No offense intended to anyone :o

MeToo
05-26-2004, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by InSite
that's how I read your post ... No offense

Yep, I understand sometimes the objective clouds the perception. Non taken.

vulkan
05-27-2004, 03:42 AM
My absolute worst reseller hosting experience was with a UK hosting company (ProWebSpace).
I should also point out that many UK hosting companies actually use servers located in US datacentres, then charge inflated UK prices...
Also UK Hosting companies generally don't offer the range of facilities you get from US hosts - unless you pay for each 'extra' facility, which gets even more expensive.

Chris Light

nex0r
05-27-2004, 09:10 AM
I'm a UK reseller using a US/UK based host with servers in the planet, the response times are faster then the UK host I was with before I moved to them. Cheaper bandwidth and the exchange rate make it a good deal for UK resellers as long as the host arn't offering stupid amounts of included bandwidth.

I get 20gb of bandwidth and 1gb HD space for just over 20 UKP per month, extra bandwidth is 70 pence per gig. And that's the 'starter' package, it's not oversold and I can make a decent profit. Compared to the previous UK host I have cut my overheads by 60%.

The only downside that I can see is some clients may not want a US based server because of the time difference (time stamping ect).

Hope that helps