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elenam
05-23-2004, 02:05 PM
Hi!

What's your opinion / eperience.

We are starting a 2nd business, and there is a domain name available that we really like, short and with keyword, and starts like our main business name. However, the .com name is already taken by a big competitor who just uses it as a forwarder to his main domain. We could get the .net name only. Would you take it??

Here a made-up SAMPLE.

Say your current business name is :

007-watch.com

and you now could get, for ANOTHER but related business

007-equipment.net

(and let's assume "equipment" would be a better keyword then in this sample)

but 007-equipment.COM is taken by the competition ...... would you take the .net name as the MAIN business name??

Thanks for your input!

Alex Xe
05-23-2004, 02:23 PM
.com much better of course.
Why you do not want ask owner of .com domain name about sale? I do not thing that price is will be very high.

elenam
05-23-2004, 02:36 PM
Alex Xe, the answer is in my posting -- .com name is taken by teh competition who uses it as a forwader to their main site. (That competitor happens to be one of the big ones in that business.)

Alex Xe
05-23-2004, 02:53 PM
it is not good if you have nearest domain with different company who have the same way of business. I think best way create something unique, because if you have .net domain name you may lost some your customers.

dotti
05-23-2004, 03:14 PM
I agree. If this is going to be your company's main domain name choosing the .net when the .com already points to a competitor would not be a good choice.

Bashar
05-23-2004, 06:21 PM
unique all the way, i wouldn't even go with .net for business of .com is running different business.

Gen-T
05-23-2004, 06:46 PM
Have to agree, especially if the .com owner is a direct competitor in the same business.

Try to find a different/unique name. Not what you want to hear, but just honest advice.

snoop
05-24-2004, 01:47 AM
big mistake to use the .net in this situation, he will end up with a good % of your traffic.

honestman
05-25-2004, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by snoop
big mistake to use the .net in this situation, he will end up with a good % of your traffic.
I think the .net will get some traffic from the .com too specially if the .com is a established web site

dawhb
05-25-2004, 08:04 AM
.net is fine. It is important if your domain is popular or not. Domain extension does not matter to much.

Regards
D.

snoop
05-25-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by honestman
I think the .net will get some traffic from the .com too specially if the .com is a established web site

I think it would be insignificant, maybe if you owned yahoo.net you might get some traffic.

Fatty
05-25-2004, 10:38 AM
A unique name is probably he best as others say. We had problems this year when Sierra launched War of the Ring the game. They had warofthering.com, which I was unable to get when I setup warofthering.net. Did nto matter at the time as we are not commercial.

But when they opened it I was a bit concerned. They do now out google us on war of the ring and we on warofthering. But we actually got a lot of traffic from it. Plus it co-incided with our busiest period.

Also agreed to post recipricol links with them. http://int.warofthering.com/uk/community.jsp etc. So I guess worked well. But if they had been a 'competitior' it could have been a nightmare.

Once they are done with it, they might sell me it ;-) though I doubt it...

So I would steer well clear or just endless problems in google and with typeins.

James

brianbloom
05-25-2004, 01:31 PM
The answer to the original question: NO

My personal view is that if people ignore that the top level domains are for, they completely make a sloppy mess of the system.

.com is for commercial (for-profit) ventures and entities
.net is for network providers
.org is only intended for non-profit and communtity organizations.

See a resource like:
http://www.support.psi.com/support/common/inet-serv/dns/hierarc.html
for more details.

Please let's not let ".net" just be a "second choice" when someone else got the .com you wanted. Use ".biz" if you need to. At least that one is designed for general businesses.

Thanks,
brian

snoop
05-25-2004, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by brianbloom

.com is for commercial (for-profit) ventures and entities
.net is for network providers
.org is only intended for non-profit and communtity organizations.

See a resource like:
http://www.support.psi.com/support/common/inet-serv/dns/hierarc.html
for more details.

Please let's not let ".net" just be a "second choice" when someone else got the .com you wanted. Use ".biz" if you need to. At least that one is designed for general businesses.


the only people who care about this kind of stuff is tech geeks, rather than consumers generally.

Bashar
05-25-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by brianbloom
The answer to the original question: NO

My personal view is that if people ignore that the top level domains are for, they completely make a sloppy mess of the system.

.com is for commercial (for-profit) ventures and entities
.net is for network providers
.org is only intended for non-profit and communtity organizations.

See a resource like:
http://www.support.psi.com/support/common/inet-serv/dns/hierarc.html
for more details.

Please let's not let ".net" just be a "second choice" when someone else got the .com you wanted. Use ".biz" if you need to. At least that one is designed for general businesses.

Thanks,
brian

i second that if .com taken and you want to run commercial i'd say goto .biz unless its network services or service provider :)

Junkie
05-25-2004, 05:27 PM
never a good idea to leach off of someone else's business .com.

snoop
05-26-2004, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Junkie
never a good idea to leach off of someone else's business .com.

how does the .net owner benefit?, if someone uses a .net with the same keyword as a .com domain the most likely benefactor is the .com owner. I wish people would develop names in .net that I have in .com.

Bashar
05-26-2004, 06:54 AM
some people does, i've been into some cases that i own .com names and they develop good websites on the .net which i gain some traffic by mistake.

some really doesn't know.

can you imagen i have some customers that come and register .NET domain and ignore the available .COM because .net sounds better than the .com (like .net is internet site etc..) :)

snoop
05-26-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Bashar


can you imagen i have some customers that come and register .NET domain and ignore the available .COM because .net sounds better than the .com (like .net is internet site etc..) :)

yes doesn't surprise me, some very silly people around. I once had someone tell me .net domains were superior to .com names because of all the microsoft .net stuff.

Fatty
05-26-2004, 11:31 AM
can you imagen i have some customers that come and register .NET domain and ignore the available .COM because .net sounds better than the .com (like .net is internet site etc..

Not wanting to be rude but I think this and the stuff about networks and providers just using .net's is a bit pie in the sky folks.

Lots of non-commercial sites will register as .net to project that to their users. Since regardless of how it was all setup to work, its de-facto that people read that into these extensions.

Certainly you are never going to see non-commercial but non-chartity sites register as .orgs. I would feel dishonest registering a .org and using it for sucha site. People think they are charities and foundations etc.

You have to be realistic about how the public view extensions, not how it was set up.

A bit off topic but I think the comments posted were a bit arrogant and unrealistic. No offence.

James

snoop
05-26-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Fatty


Certainly you are never going to see non-commercial but non-chartity sites register as .orgs.


lots of non charity sites use .org at the moment