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AHS_Wrestler
05-20-2004, 10:02 PM
I know this doesn't belong in WHT - but it's WHT Lounge, just thought maybe some of you would know:

On Nov. 1st, I was over at a friends house. A few of them were smashed and started crap. Well, I was really the only one sober there. I walked this girl up to her bedroom. People said I had sex with her up there. Which was a complete lie. All I did was walk her to her bedroom. Well, some dude called her boyfriend, who is 24. She's not supposed to be dating him. He lives out in a city.
He said he was going to kill me if he saw me, ever. Well, today, I was walking with my friends over to her house, my friend had to pick something up from her pool house. (She is almost my neighbor.) Well, we walked through a path, and got to her house. Her boyfriend was about to leave. Justin and Raffi (my friends) started to talk to him. Well, I didn't say a word, and had my fists clenched, ready for a fight. All was done, and he got into his car. All the sudden, he goes "You, Nick, get your *** over here." I turn around, thinking "ahh crap." Justin and Raffi were about ready to fight. He comes up to me, and about swings at me, and I moved out of the way, natural reaction. I go "Anthony, hold on a second." He goes "give me one good reason why I shouldn't just drop you right here." I go: "because, I didn't f*ck her, I don't even like her anymore, and everything they said was untrue." Justin and Raffi backed me up on that one. He goes "you're lucky all you rich little bitches have security guards and what-not, or you'd be dead." I go "If you're going to kill me, do it right here right now, I'm not going to back down from you." He goes "I've got to get to work, but next time I see you, you're dead."
Then Raffi goes, "Why are you going to fight someone younger than you?" Anthony goes: "because he f*cked my girl." I started swearing on my life I didn't screw her. I never would. He told me I just better start walking away.

I left, so did everyone else.

We went over to my friend T.J.'s house, and Raffi told him what happend. T.J. told his brother, and now his brother is going to "kill" him.
What does violence really solve?

See, I live in a gated community. Meaning you either need permission by an adult or you're family to get into our community, since my neighbors are the richest in Wisconsin. (I'm not trying to brag.) But, why does scum like him get to come in and start stiring up crap. It's all going to lead back to me, and I'm going to end up dead. I'm not weak, I'm on the Varsity football & hockey team...I mean, he knows I wouldn't go down easy, but why does crap like this need to happen?

Again, I'm not trying to brag, but I'm giving you all the information needed.

EDIT: Sorry for the cuss. I posted this in my blog, where I have no censoring enabled.

Acroplex
05-20-2004, 10:08 PM
Just stick by your "guns", most of the time violence can be avoided. At the very least, avoid those that don't want to avoid violence :D

AHS_Wrestler
05-20-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by timechange.com
Just stick by your "guns", most of the time violence can be avoided. At the very least, avoid those that don't want to avoid violence :D
My gunds, pshaw. :)
I don't like fights, at all. What do they solve? People getting arrested, people going after eachother, etc. I should've listened to my mom today, saying I should've stayed inside because it was too hot out...boy, moms are smart.

Trifolic
05-20-2004, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by cjhostingnet
My gunds, pshaw. :)
I don't like fights, at all. What do they solve? People getting arrested, people going after eachother, etc. I should've listened to my mom today, saying I should've stayed inside because it was too hot out...boy, moms are smart.

The dude was scared.. Plain and simple it was 3 on 1 If he is determined your best bet is to talk to the girl, get the WHOLE scoup, then if a confrontation MUST take place she should be there. Might give him a different prespective on what he thinks..

But than again it might just piss him off more..

AHS_Wrestler
05-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Anthony is one of those people who only belive what they want to hear. What is the girl going to remember? She was drunker than a, well, drunk.
It was people who thought it would be funny to see Anthony mad, but no one thought it would turn out to be like this.

Torith
05-20-2004, 10:20 PM
Well a few options

call police
Fight him
Get some friends to back you up

or

if you see him walk away. If he comes after you grab a huge stick and beat him. He seems the type who thinks he is all that, and think's he is always right. Don't let him push you around.

JTY
05-20-2004, 10:20 PM
The guy threaten to kill you, you could have him arrested.

Trifolic
05-20-2004, 10:25 PM
If he is the kind of guy that I am thinking of, and you want the LEAST amount of troubles get a group of friends together, Fight him and go down easy, let him beat you a bit, but your friends will be there to ensure that he doesn't seriously hurt you..

He will get his satisfaction and it will be over and done with. The only reason I say this, is because of how the world has evolved today.. People are sick and if he is a drinker, and tips the bottle often, you're better off just letting him get it out of his system, than have him arrested and catch you off guard and do some serious damage down the road..

EthicalEpi
05-20-2004, 11:48 PM
People said I had sex with her up there. Which was a complete lie. All I did was walk her to her bedroom. Well, some dude called her boyfriend, who is 24.

I would say 'look man, you can beat the sh*t out of me for trying to make sure your girlfriend got to her room safely when she was drunk, something you really should be thanking me for and for not taking advantage of that situation, then you can see me in court when I have you arrested and sued, because I'm not prepared to take a beating for something I haven't even done....or you can go looking for the a**holes who have been spreading terrible rumours about your girlfriend and making her and you look bad in the first place and take it out on them instead of me"

That might give him a different perspective on things.

He probably doesn't want to loose face, and if you've done nothing wrong I don't see why you should take a beating for nothing. Whoever thought it was funny to wind this guy up and try to get you into trouble, let them deal with it and see how funny they find it then.

If you think he was actually serious about it when he said he was going to kill you and it wasn't just a figure of speech, you should tell someone about it to make sure you're going to be looked after, particularly if he's a lot older than you (your parents perhaps who can help you to decide what to do).

Webdude
05-21-2004, 12:07 AM
Simple answer. Let someone much bigger and tougher walk her to her room next time (throw another party) like me, then when he decides to be all toughy, he'll get a good old Texas *** whooping. :D

You should have told him to "do it now, or not all all, dont pass off onto backout excuses". I like to tell people "I can put my right foot right across the right side of your head, and there's not a $@#&*%! thing you can do about it"

Toughen up kid. You either stand up to your problems, or they will always beat you down. Calling the cops may be the legal thing to do, but wont solve much other than get him angrier at you, plus get you labeled as a wimp. He sounds a bit like a wuss to me. If he really intended on getting you, your friends wouldnt have been much help.. and he sure wouldnt have been worried about getting to work on time. The fact that getting to work on time was more important than getting into it with you actually says a lot. I think if you stodd up to him, he would find some words to get out of it like "Hey, you stood up to me, I think I like you" or some other bull. Bullies are all the same. I used to pick on the bullies in school :D

interactive
05-21-2004, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Webdude
Simple answer. Let someone much bigger and tougher walk her to her room next time (throw another party) like me, then when he decides to be all toughy, he'll get a good old Texas *** whooping. :D


The Texas *** beating includes 2 steps: 1) Setting the person straight (by physical force) 2) Branding his *** with a Ford logo :D.

Originally posted by Webdude
[B]You should have told him to "do it now, or not all all, dont pass off onto backout excuses". I like to tell people "I can put my right foot right across the right side of your head, and there's not a $@#&*%! thing you can do about it"

Toughen up kid. You either stand up to your problems, or they will always beat you down. Calling the cops may be the legal thing to do, but wont solve much other than get him angrier at you, plus get you labeled as a wimp. He sounds a bit like a wuss to me. If he really intended on getting you, your friends wouldnt have been much help.. and he sure wouldnt have been worried about getting to work on time. The fact that getting to work on time was more important than getting into it with you actually says a lot. I think if you stodd up to him, he would find some words to get out of it like "Hey, you stood up to me, I think I like you" or some other bull. Bullies are all the same. I used to pick on the bullies in school :D

The guy seems to be pullling a bluff, I'd just try to diplomatically resolve the situation. I'm all for setting people straight, but only when needed. Go watch the movie "O" or read Shakespeare's Othello (God aweful)..

EthicalEpi
05-21-2004, 12:25 AM
webdude: Wouldn't that be playing right into the hands of the real culprits here who are the ones who were trying to get him into trouble in the first place.

Sometimes it's better to use your brains than you fists. Kill two birds with one stone. Walk away from this problem because you've done nothing wrong in the first place, and turn it around so that the people who thought it was funny to get you into trouble in the first place are now the ones facing this guys wrath (then they'll know not to mess with you again for fun).

Whoever thought it would be funny to tell this guy that you've slept with his girlfriend to make him angry and cause a problem for you is the real culprit in all of this. That in itself is a form of bullying and people who pull stunts like that really aren't your friends. Friends help to get you out of trouble, not into it.

Remember, that if you were this guy and someone had told you that somoene had slept with your girlfriend you might feel the same way he does. It's understandable that he want's to kick your *ss under the circumstances.

If you really haven't done anything wrong, you shouldn't have to fight him. If he still doesn't believe you ask him what his girfriend said, and when he says she claims it never happened ask him if he's going to make a liar out of her and believe rumor mongers.

Webdude
05-21-2004, 12:55 AM
First off, it wouldnt be his butt I would be kicking, it would be hers. She's the one doing the cheating, or accused of it, she's the one I would confront about it. If it happen to be a good friend of mine she slept with, in that case he knew better. He would be needing surgery to remove the branding iron.

Yep, and I have my ford brander right here too :D

Oh yeah, and the people saying it happened might really believe it did. It would have if he was me :stickout:

EthicalEpi
05-21-2004, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Webdude

Oh yeah, and the people saying it happened might really believe it did. It would have if he was me :stickout:

LOL! I don't doubt it.

EthicalEpi
05-21-2004, 01:04 AM
Seriously though, he claims he hasn't done it. If you were in the same situation and someone had done that to you just to try to get some guy jealous and cause grief for you because they thought it would be fun, who's *** would you be kicking then webdude? The guy who's just angry with you because he thinks that you've slept with his girlfriend when you haven't, or the people who lead him to believe that in the first place?

Wouldn't you want to at least let whoever called him and tried to get you into trouble know not to mess with you again?

Artashes
05-21-2004, 01:18 AM
I wouldn't mind fighting him just for the sport function of it, so stop tellling him you didn't do it. Just don't answer to him - why should you? Its his girlfriend that should tell him, not you. Have some guts, he is not going to touch you.

Next time he is going to approach you just tell him to shut his yapper and move along like you don't care. You'll be allright. ;)

Best,

Umbongo
05-21-2004, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by EthicalEpi
I would say 'look man, you can beat the sh*t out of me for trying to make sure your girlfriend got to her room safely when she was drunk, something you really should be thanking me for and for not taking advantage of that situation, then you can see me in court when I have you arrested and sued, because I'm not prepared to take a beating for something I haven't even done....or you can go looking for the a**holes who have been spreading terrible rumours about your girlfriend and making her and you look bad in the first place and take it out on them instead of me"

That might give him a different perspective on things.

That is the best advice in this thread and is something that would often come up as hindsight. Take heed of it now.

Webdude
05-21-2004, 02:20 AM
I forgot to ask, is this girl hot? If she is, and she was dog drunk....then I dont believe that nothing happened. You'd have to be gay to walk away. Now, if she looks like my first wife did after 7 years of marriage, then I hope you ran away as fast as you could.

I hate explaining how I was so respectable and didnt do anything with a sexy drunk young half naked babe. "I swear on my soul people! Those sheets were spotted BEFORE we went into the room! No, you got it all wrong. I was closing the curtains, and the dust made me sneeze all over the wall, I swear!"

Trifolic
05-21-2004, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by Webdude
I hate explaining how I was so respectable and didnt do anything with a sexy drunk young half naked babe. "I swear on my soul people! Those sheets were spotted BEFORE we went into the room! No, you got it all wrong. I was closing the curtains, and the dust made me sneeze all over the wall, I swear!"

Hey Webdude, you didn't happen to feed Clinton any lines in his hearing did you? :rofl:

AHS_Wrestler
05-21-2004, 10:56 AM
She wasn't hot. Atleast when I was there.
I swear to god, all I did was walk her to her room, that's all. I could tell the police that she's sleeping with a 24 year old man, and she's only 15...

THW-Dave
05-21-2004, 11:15 AM
You can call him scum or whatever, hes just being protective.. Even if someone told him a lie, hes better off finding the facts, and obviously thats his way.

THW-Dave
05-21-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by cjhostingnet
She wasn't hot. Atleast when I was there.
I swear to god, all I did was walk her to her room, that's all. I could tell the police that she's sleeping with a 24 year old man, and she's only 15...

From the sounds of that, thats not the person I wouldnt want to be remotely friends with. "sleeping" with someone at the age of 15 is bad enough, but with a 24 year old suggests a head problem, perhaps her father left her while she was young etc etc.


The 24 yo has issues aswell. Maybe im just old fashioned, but normally at that age, anything more than a 5 year age difference should be considered morally wrong / sick.

JWise
05-21-2004, 11:30 AM
So what if you did do something with her or you didn't... You still have to deal with this weak boyfriend. Yep, hes weak if hes driving around talking about he wants to fight you and all this crap because of his girlfriend getting drunk at a party, when hes not there and getting walked up to bedrooms by some dudes.


Its like this... From what i've read, the guy seems like a bully, and think he can bully you because he is older. So, your going to have to beat him up. Sometimes thats the only way to get rid of a bully. Sure, you can go to the police, but they can only hold him for a certain amount of time, and then you'll have the reputation as a wimp... A rep that you don't want. So, you must not fear any, but God.


He wants you to fear him, and apologize so many times, and I ask you, please don't do this.. If you did do it, or you didn't do it.. What you did do, or didnt do, had nothing to do with him...

Webdude
05-21-2004, 11:33 AM
All joking aside, 15 is a bit young for a 24 year old anyway. 16, maybe. I have the lowest age in my mind at 16 because that's what the average age thru-out history has been for marriage age, even in our own American history. Even then, at a younger age like that, there shouldnt be anymore than 4 years difference. As you get older, the year difference doesnt matter as much (a 30 year old woman has the mental adult maturity of a 40 year old man). So it's about maturity. If a 24 year old guy is sleeping with a 15 year old, he's only taking advantage of her. I am 34 and wouldnt sleep with a woman thats 20. Not that I wouldnt want to, I just dont feel it would be right.

But 15? Hell I wouldnt sleep with a 15 even when I was 18. Although I was 10 and slept with a 20 :D Ok, that's a long story. I wanted to know about sex, and she was teaching me, but that's a story for another time... she was hot too :stickout: It's suffice to say I started getting in trouble in school shortly after that... Hell I was the one who started all the teen pregnancy problems you see nowdays. I started this whole modern epidemic :D Damned 20 year old chick.... blame her, it's her fault I did what I did..

Webdude
05-21-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by cjhostingnet
She wasn't hot. Atleast when I was there.
I swear to god, all I did was walk her to her room, that's all. I could tell the police that she's sleeping with a 24 year old man, and she's only 15...

If he causes you too much grief and you really dont want to go head to head with him, secretly providing the police with that info will get rid of him for quite a while..

JWise
05-21-2004, 11:37 AM
You was 10 and slept with a 20 year old!!!!????!!!


Whats your secret... Im 19 and looking to meet a 35 Year old Mature woman similar to Halle Barry for one night lol

2Grumpy
05-21-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by JTY
The guy threaten to kill you, you could have him arrested.

Absolutely, and in front of 2 witnesses no less, time for a TRO and perhaps a little chat with the cops for him. There is a system, use it to your advantage I say. There's ways to solve conflicts without stooping into the mud with the pigs yourself.

TRO + chat with the cops, affidavits from your friends saying he threatened you. Play your cards right (you said you live close to the girl) you can make it a crime for him to even visit her since it'll bring him too close to you :D See him over there again and get his *** arrested.

Then you have a whole OTHER can of worms 24 on 15 is probably against the law (I believe 16 is the age of consent in most states and 18 is really the safe age period to avoid statutory), play those cards right and you could have this idiot being required to register as a SEX OFFENDER for the rest of his life, happened to a friend of a friend of a co worker, he was 19, she was almost 16, her parents were hella pissed off, he's now a registered sex offender...