Dear Forum,

My name is Igor Amburg, i am the CEO of Champion Host.com. There has been a concern of copyright on our site. I am not a webdesigner, one of my friends does our web design. He have stol the sites and sold it to us, with out my knowledge. Please be advised to I have put up our old site back on. There is no copyright on the site. If you feel there is anything that should concern the compyright please let me know.

Thank You
Igor Amburg
President

I suggest you keep an eye out here since there are a lot of webdesigners that are selling good templates very cheap.

hi Igor

if rackspace contacted you about this, well maybe it was me, although i'm certain many others here also contacted them. :D
i emailed them, and got a reply today saying they had taken care of it. i saw that your site was down for a bit, and then back up with a new design. i assume rackspace reviewed the new design and let you back on. i asked in another thread if your new site is ligit, and i truelly hope that it is.

also, i'd like to add that even though some of the users here might not think very highly of you, you shouldn't feel like you can't post in the requests forum asking for someone to design your site. most likely if you get a designer from these forums, they will be ligit and not try to sell you a fake/stolen website. the users on this forum might even change their opinion on you if they see you are really taking steps to not abuse other webmasters hard work by stealing it.

straighten up, and good luck, you'll be needing it!

Igor, once... twice even... maybe, but the number of stolen sites and site changes (within a two month period) puts this fully on you. At some point, you have to take responsibility and hire a designer. There seem to be many here that are willing to charge a very low rate ($100 or less) to build up their portfolio. You really can't go wrong at that price and I know you guys have enough clients to justify a $100 web site.

Igor,

For once, please please do us all a favor and quite lying. You been running champion host on your own for quite a while now.

There is no one else but you stealing all these sites and posting them by yourself.

Do I have sympathy for you? hell no.

Did your so-called webmaster also steal the 10+ websites you have posed as your own? I would think like anyone it would become APPARENT if it was in fact someone else "selling these sites" to you, that you would find someone else.

You make a good story, but the facts just don't add up. So please, tell the true to everyone how you are trying to run a sham hosting company, stealing content from any hosting company's website you can get your mouse on.

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Igor,

For once, please please do us all a favor and quite lying. You been running champion host on your own for quite a while now.

There is no one else but you stealing all these sites and posting them by yourself.

Do I have sympathy for you? hell no.

Did your so-called webmaster also steal the 10+ websites you have posed as your own? I would think like anyone it would become APPARENT if it was in fact someone else "selling these sites" to you, that you would find someone else.

You make a good story, but the facts just don't add up. So please, tell the true to everyone how you are trying to run a sham hosting company, stealing content from any hosting company's website you can get your mouse on.

How do you assume that I work alone. You have no prove to back it up. I am a small -medium company, during the pest several month i have changed the way, i do buisness. Your really can say anything about me or my company, with out knowing how we are right now. Take a trip to our office and take a look.

Thank You
Igor Amburg

Hey Mr CEO....

Are you affiliated with this company?

http://www.infinitehost.com/company.asp
http://www.championhost.com/aboutus.htm

Or, do we need to give rackspace another phone call?

(Attached just in case)

It has all been removed!

Originally posted by championhost
It has all been removed!
Aww, I'm sorry, did I burst your bubble? :laugh:

It's a crack up that he would actually think we would buy that his designer had the sudden urge to change the chapionhost.com design 10 times in the last 3-4 weeks. Obviously each time "Igor" changed his design he was hoping we would not notice that another company had this design. Come on Igor who are you kidding just tell us the truth and move on!

Originally posted by championhost
My name is Igor Amburg, i am the CEO of Champion Host.com.
As a CEO, you are responsible for what information about your company is being posted on your website. If you don't know what is being written (erm, copied from other websites) on your company's about page ...then :rolleyes:

Championhost,

I found some more..

The text block on championhost. (main page)

"Our experts stay up to date on the most recent developments in the web arena. We are able to create sites as simple or as complex as needed. As new technologies emerge, we will have the capabilities to utilize them for your benefit, placing your site on the cutting edge."

Text block from surfs up design (http://www.surfsupdesign.com/)

"Our experts are up to date on the most recent developments on the net. We are able to create sites as simple or complex as needed. As new technologies emerge, we have the capabilities to utilize them for your benefit, placing your site on the cutting edge of web design. "

It is a little bit different.. maybe a word or two, but you can tell it's copied.
:)

At least he learned in school that little leason they teach you "Put it in your own words" but you only change like 2 words and hand it in and get an A. Igor is not the same in real life...

Isn'tlike his signature a rip off of somethingas well ;) :stickout

http://www.championhost.com/aboutus.htm

http://www.elzawawy.com/htm/about_us/about_us.htm
http://www.mavcorp.com/aboutus/main.htm

Is there some sort of boiler-plate rip-off site where you can fabricate your own b.s. info about your corporation? Everyone's ripping off everyone.

Maybe stealing Dictionary.com's website would give Igor some incentive to proofread for spelling errors before he posts.

Wow, he changed the abut us page, but only to copy someone elses site... Any explanation for that?

CH's version:
http://www.championhost.com/index.html -- look under Web Design Services

The original (and yes, I trust that addr.com would be the original):
http://www.addr.com/design.htm

Multiple choice time!

All of the following are pretty darn clear about ChampionHost EXCEPT:

A) He doesn't have the slightest clue what "copyright" means or entails.
B) He thinks he can fool the webhosting community by passing the blame to someone whom he claims stole the material from other sites.
C) He doesn't cover his tracks very well.
D) He is actually the victim of a conspiracy to defame his character.
E) He is entirely responsible for the pathological illegal copyright infringement and rampant plagiarism on his site.

Any guesses? Maybe I oughtta post a poll.

Isn't it often the case that hosts who are caught out like this will pass the buck? I believe Turbohost did the same thing some time ago. It's a poor excuse even in the best of situations, but in this case it's insulting.

These people that steal websites are an insult to any legitimate Designer out there.

Igor is real popular here.....
:eek:

I hope he starts with a simple design and concentrates more on hosting and customers rather than the design. Hosting customers just want quality and reliability. It does not matter how good looking your site is. Be truthful and I'm sure you'd well..... :)

Have a great day :)

Regards
Amar

Originally posted by bobcares
Hosting customers just want quality and reliability. It does not matter how good looking your site is. Be truthful and I'm sure you'd well..... :)

Have a great day :)

Regards
Amar

First impression always counts, i'd say it matters quite a bit.
If I visit a business site and see a rush job i'm likely to assume they're a fly by night operation or a clueless reseller and continue on my way. On the other hand, this same clueless person or fly by nighter could have a decent layout (legal or stolen) that'll give the impression of a solid company, which often happens in these cases. It's usually fairly easy to tell though, when you've got nice graphics all around and then this hacked in looking logo or pricing plans.

Put simply, any moron can look attractive to customers with a decent website where having a rush job will either make you appear as the moron or hide the fact that your not a complete moron and know what you're doing!
Just reflect on ***** for a moment.

hi Igor,
if you really have no time for a personal design try here:
http://www.freesitetemplates.com/
you can finde more than 200 free Wesite Templates for free!


Bye
:cartman:

Originally posted by bobcares


Hosting customers just want quality and reliability. It does not matter how good looking your site is.

True. If you saw my host's site, you'd either laugh or recoil in horror. However, of all the hosts I've been with - and I've been with the big names - they have proven to be consistently reliable over the seven or so months that I've been with them.

Eye candy is nice, but a host will sink or swim based on the quality of service they provide.

Unless, of course, they get sued out of existance for copyright infringement...


-Bob

Originally posted by Peeps
Isn't it often the case that hosts who are caught out like this will pass the buck? I believe Turbohost did the same thing some time ago. It's a poor excuse even in the best of situations, but in this case it's insulting. It's always the case.

"It... it... it wasn't me... ummm... it was my designer! He ripped me off! Have pitty on me. :bawling: "

rolf

Originally posted by Intelligent Hosting
It's always the case.

"It... it... it wasn't me... ummm... it was my designer! He ripped me off! Have pitty on me. :bawling: "

wow. What a cover up story. Give it up and say you did it cause you know you did!. I think you should also make the person you copied be ware of this and tell them sorry and take your COPIED **** down.If the designer has a right mind they will not copy someone else design or steal it. Think A minute DUH!. Unless they're stupid LOL. Also this is totally uncalled for. Also your toll free number don't work!. The 1877.

This is my word. Chicken you can edit if you have to.

Originally posted by klisis
rolf



Rolling on Laughing Floor:confused:

Originally posted by one_web
Rolling on Laughing Floor:confused:

Maybe he meant Rolf (like in a Swedish dude)..

Originally posted by one_web

Rolling on Laughing Floor:confused: I wish I had a laughing floor. I'd replace that old killing floor.

I know I've seen this text elsewhere before.

http://www.championhost.com/aboutus.htm

I also love the meta description on each page.

"Champion Host -- When you want reliability, great service, and some of the fastest download speeds found on the internet today. Packages starting as low as $19.95/mo."

But his plans start at 7.95. Go figure. Still not a very intelligent thief here. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by TMX
Eye candy is nice, but a host will sink or swim based on the quality of service they provide.

***** has quite a nice looking site, which is probably what lures in all of the clients they treat so poorly...

Lmao @ championhost

The site that u have up now i have seen before
i know because i remembe thinking that mouse only has one button. im looking for it

and you have a webhostonline top 10 for november 2001 on your site
but if i go there i dont see you on the top 10 ???
There you go lying again btw i sent a email to webhostonline
so im sure they will contact you.



i find you to be a joke a fake and a fraud and i cant wait till the bbb or ftc shuts your arse down.

btw you also call http://secure.championhost.com a secure server ??

Hmmmmmm
seems like you need to close your doors and go put out some applications in your area and just move on to a different job

When I seen the TOP 10 button I went to **************.com and checked if it was true and it was i seen them there. I guess they already have their list for December up.

hey ppl dont get on champion hoss case

i have copied some things too on my site....

i shall have to change it i guess as well, but i am not sure what i copied :-(

Originally posted by one_web


Rolling on Laughing Floor:confused:

LOL!!! :laugh:

So what all parts is he using now? I keep losing where he copied everything from. I know that some of the stuff on the domain registration page is from siteturn, since for some reason he forgot to take out:
<form name="Step1" action="https://secure.siteturn.net/cgi-bin/step1.pl" method="post"></form>

Originally posted by sasjamal
hey ppl dont get on champion hoss case

i have copied some things too on my site....

i shall have to change it i guess as well, but i am not sure what i copied :-( Awww.... That's hilarious.

It ain't that hard to whip up some original graphics -- or, better yet! -- Post a request here on wht, and get a designer to come up with something.

I always build from scratch after finding out what a customer
is looking for, and what their needs are.

Like, why go for the cookie cutter look?

Rockrz

<<REMOVED>>

Well, had an emergency page and server went down due to / being 100%, so now i am sitting here surfing the net and WHT, and after seeing this thread again, thought i would stop by archive.org.....seems they cant even keep up with Igor these days!!

He had a very steady site from Sep 17th 2000 (when they first started archiving it) to Oct 31st 2000

Then the madness

Nov 1 2000 simple nice design....http://web.archive.org/web/20001101122233/http://championhost.com/

Dec 3 200 (must of got caught again)
http://web.archive.org/web/20010201063300/http://www.championhost.com/

Back at it....Feb 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20010201063300/http://www.championhost.com/

March 2001, same as above...

April...uhh ohh..
http://web.archive.org/web/20010410010644/http://www.championhost.com/

Nov 16 2001...dang this is tiring
http://web.archive.org/web/20011116185337/http://www.championhost.com/index.html

Nov 31 2001...all that work of stealing other peoples sites...what a waste of time Igor just commited
http://www.championhost.com

This one is the best: http://web.archive.org/web/20010416235433/www.championhost.com/aboutus.html

Champion Host has been providing web hosting services since 1994.

A whois lookup shows: Record created on 01-May-2000

:D :stickout :D

To championhosts statement about your webdesigner doing it bs.

I will admit i had that happen to me once we had a guy make a template for us and about 2 montsh into the site someone posted on our forums about the stolen site.
However we had the site down in 10 minutes
and a new one back up that night
and i am the only one that does the site now

How does this manage to happen over 5 times ?
and each time you get caught?

Also if you started in 1994

your member profile lists your birthdate as

Birthday July 27th, 1979



Wooooow 15 years old when you started you must be some kind of guru

I don't see the point of a host making fake reviews, it seems the only real reviews on that are the ones that voted 1.

RAJ --> razj235onlinemedia.com ... onlinemedia.com doesn't even match championhosts nameservers .... tsk tsk ...

If a 'designer' was paid for a site and that site turns out to be a rip off of someone else's site, then the designer in question should have been sacked on the spot, not given a half dozen chances to do it right. That's the most paper thin excuse I've ever heard in my life. You should be ashamed for ever logging onto the internet, and I trully hope that hell comes to pay you a visit. :) The world will be a nicer place without bottom feeders such as these guys.

Greg Moore

:o

akashik :o
:blush:

Hi all,
I'm Greg, CEO of Surfs Global, Inc. (Surfs Up Design) I have been reading along with this thread. He went to my site and copied it too. This message is for Champion Host.com - Ceo. We went online back in 1998 after almost two years of prior development. Sure we went around and looked at other hosting companies. But we were looking at them to see how we could be DIFFERENT and unique! If you would just take your time and develope a site that is yours, which portrays what YOUR company is all about, you might be able to get thru this. If you needed a web designer you should have contacted us NOT copied us! Every hosting firm is different, but we all have one thing the same. To sell hosting. GET A GRIP!!

Greg