Anyone have 1u server for sale? :cool:

check ebay.com

I did.

:cool:

Would you be willing to go to $725 for a new one?

Well, it depends.

What are the spec?

Intel Pentium III 866mhz
512MB RAM
40GB Hard Drive
1U Config

How much is 1u with dual Pentium III 1000mhz and 1GB RAM?

Also, which motherboard?

I'm not sure on the mother board but about $1200

I believe I can build a 1u with dual Pentium III 1000mhz w/ 1 GB RAM for around $800-$900. Of course I have to use used parts.

I'm talking new everything

I don't know why some people want to buy new if used ones work just as good. :eek:

When you do web hosting you need quality and realiability that is why for me I actually spend the extra dollars and buy Dell

I like tell products too, but they are too expensive. :cool:

Your in hosting now. If your not willing to pay the bucks you need to really get into it then I don't suggest getting into it. You could end up in a lot of trouble.

I don't think the problems come from hardware.
What is the chance of hardware failure?



:cool:

What is the chance of hardware failure?
Oh just you wait :)

Originally posted by Asia
I don't think the problems come from hardware.
What is the chance of hardware failure?



:cool:

The chance of hardware failure is much higher with lower quality hardware. And it can wear out more quickly.

Originally posted by M@tt


The chance of hardware failure is much higher with lower quality hardware. And it can wear out more quickly.

Lower quality hardware?

Are you saying if you custom build your pc/server, you are using low quality hardwares?

If you custom build your own server, instead of buying it from name brand company like Dell, you can build it with high quality hardwares.

For instance, my hp computer.
They are expensive because it is made by HP, but the parts inside are cheap. I think it is expensive, because it has HP's logo on it.

You don't understand. Dell uses proper server parts in their servers which I am counting you won't because you said $700 - $800 and a good server motherboard just starts at about $400

I was thinking of a motherboard that would serve the purpose.
Like motherboard with built-in NIC, video, and etc.

I have an Intel STL2 ServerBoard, which I bought on eBay for about $300.

If you are serious about doing web hosting then I would not build the server yourself. Listen to us, we know. What happens if you have a hard ware failure and your whole server crashes. If you had a dell it could be setup on RAID 1 mirroring system and the server would keep running and Dell would go there and replace the HD.

Dell uses high quality, expensive parts in their servers. Of course you can in a custom built, but it can be harder to obtain these parts, and if you see a cheaper product, you feel inclined to go for it, over the higher quality, more expensive one...

Aloha

have a brand new Dell app server 100
has 750 pIII 256 megs (this model max's at 512)
9gig ultra 160 scsi
rails included in box
( I have pulled it out to play a bit with it at my house that is it was going to use it now I am not
would be like $800 incl shipping to mainland US via fedX or UPS
if you have any ques let me know
http://www.hpsale.com/pics/

Honu,

How about $500? :cool:

Originally posted by netsolutions
If you are serious about doing web hosting then I would not build the server yourself. Listen to us, we know. What happens if you have a hard ware failure and your whole server crashes. If you had a dell it could be setup on RAID 1 mirroring system and the server would keep running and Dell would go there and replace the HD.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that - if you have the experience building servers, then there is no reason to not build it yourself...

Aloha
dont want to go to much lower ;(
would do $750 shipped ;)
hhehehehehe
bad arent I ;)

I wouldn't go as far as saying that - if you have the experience building servers, then there is no reason to not build it yourself...
Ya but by the sounds of it I don't think Asia has the experience building servers

Originally posted by netsolutions

Ya but by the sounds of it I don't think Asia has the experience building servers


Who say I don't.

I built my own pc and server.

Whatever you said above can be done on a custom built server.

I don't depend on Dell or other pc manufactors to come and fix my problem when something goes wrong.

:cool:

I do agree on using one of the larger pc/server makers for your high end server which cannot go down. That is what Compaq and Dell are there for.

However for something like colo, etc., I would go with a "white box" solution you build yourself. That way you can have extra parts onsite in case something breaks and can replace it with minimal downtime.

Sure, Compaq or Dell will come out at 3am on Sunday to replace something, but you would have to have their 24x7 support contract, and the fastest one of those they sell is 2 hr response or 4 hr response.. and those are some serious $$$.

I'd rather have an extra harddrive, motherboard, etc. onsite and I can do it myself.

BTW- I used to work for Compaq Services and would face this all the time..

laterz all,
raqworld

I can offer you the following:

AMD 1.2Ghz CPU
Firmotek 1U copper based cooling fan
512MB PC133 RAM
40GB 7200 Quantum ATA-100
Onboard video and Lan
1U Rackmount Case
This is Brand new!

$899 plus shipping

I believe I can build a 1u with dual Pentium III 1000mhz w/ 1 GB RAM for around $800-$900. Of course I have to use used parts.


Brand New:

1U server case with 5 fans: $150
Asus Motherboard w/Lan & Video $125
1 GB Crucial RAM $125
PIII 1 GHz: $150
40 GB IBM HD 7200 RPM: $125
CD-ROM 48x+ $25
Total: $700.00

Originally posted by archangel777



Brand New:

1U server case with 5 fans: $150
Asus Motherboard w/Lan & Video $125
1 GB Crucial RAM $125
PIII 1 GHz: $150
40 GB IBM HD 7200 RPM: $125
CD-ROM 48x+ $25
Total: $700.00

What is the model of Asus MotherBoard?

archangel777


Can you tell me where to buy that server?

Originally posted by archangel777

Brand New:

1U server case with 5 fans: $150
Asus Motherboard w/Lan & Video $125
1 GB Crucial RAM $125
PIII 1 GHz: $150
40 GB IBM HD 7200 RPM: $125
CD-ROM 48x+ $25
Total: $700.00
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I think archangel is talking about the price to build the server yourself. Also, He wants a Dual PIII so you would need the motherboard that supports it.

I think those price does not include shipping, so you may want to add extra $$$ if you want to build yourself ...

Also, is this 1GB memory in one module? I doubt it is, because I am pretty sure there will be no $125 priced ASUS m/b that can take 1GB of memory module. The 1U case seems to be cheap (again, does it include shipping and even power supply? Without PS, I can get 1U case as low as $110 + S/H)

cheers,
:beer:

I'm not sure which models of Asus have built-in LAN (NIC)?

Does anyone know? :cool:

Asus has a lot of models that have build in lan, that's no doubt a about it.

CUSI-FX, TUEG-VM, CUR-DLS, CU4VX-DLS, CUV266-DLS, etc ... etc ...
Those are just S370 boards (Which is more relevant for this thread), and there are more others for Slot1/SlotA/SocketA/Socket473/Socket423 boards that will have this build in NIC ...

BTW: you can just easily go to www.asus.com (or www.asus.com.tw) to answer your own questions? ;)

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by Asia
Who say I don't.

I built my own pc and server.


I think you still need to get much more experience (well at least I think I am more experienced than you are :D). Hm ... you don't know which Asus m/b has build in NIC, you are not sure about the cost of building 1U server, etc ...etc ... so, I would say yes you have some experience, but that experience still has a lot of room to grow ;) I build around 15 PCs (For friends) when I was in High School. On top of that I have build 6 PCs for myself and 7 rackmount servers (6 of them 1U). Well ... I still think I am not experienced at all, but hey ... I know which Asus m/b (and Tyan, Supermicro, Gigabyte) that has build in Lan and/or VGA :D

best of luck ...

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by netsolutions
good server motherboard just starts at about $400

if what you mean by "server motherboard" is a motherboard with ServerWorks LE chipset, then yes ... the cheapest is around $350. But otherwise, you can get a descent dual Proc motherboard (with VIA chipset) for around $200.

My next question: what do you consider good server motherboard for single CPU?

cheers,
:beer:

My favorite choice: Tyan Thunder LE-T (S2518) with ServerWorks ServerSet III LE3 (dual channel U160 SCSI Adaptec AIC-7899W controller)

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderlet.html

This motherboard is also a good choice for 1U rackmount servers - it has built in dual Intel Lan controllers, dual CPU ready, 25° angled 3.3v 168-pin DIMM sockets, ATI RAGE XL graphics controller 4MB, ATX footprint).

Note: make sure you order motharboard with SCSI controller (optional) if you are building a SCSI system.

For IDE systems I will suggest using Intel chipsets only!

PS. some geeks prefer to use Thermaltake fans(s) in 1U units -- more info at http://www.thermaltake.com/ and remember, cooling is critical for 1U units built using fast SCSI hard drives.

I just ordered 2 $600 servers (value 1u servers) from http://www.interpromicro.com

Fast service, servers were out the door in 48 hours, they are now on the way to our Datacenter

I selected the Intel boards since those boards are the only ones besides sun that support remote console

Ordered basic ram, and went to Compusa and bought a few 256mb chips for $24.99 (after rebate of course) hehe

Thanks for the link Gary. I just ordered the value P3/IDE Server.
I'm calling them tomorrow and ask them if they can remove the cd-rom and floppy and take credit off it.

If all goes well, We are going to open a corp. account with them.


elijaH

Great to hear you ordered a few from them :)

On both my servers, ran some load tests on each server with httpd (brut force testing) with 200 users, 2000 connections, running at a steady 10 minutes, loads were around 30-40 with just 128 mb ram

My basic configuration for each server was

P3 866 / Intel mobo / 40 gig hd x 2 / standard 1u case / 128mb ram, slim cdrom

2nd server was a Intel Celeron 900 / Intel mobo / 40 gig hd / 128 mb ram / standard 1u case + stand cd-rom

both cases came with lockable fronts, which i wasnt expecting and really liked :)

They also came in at 50% less weight then other servers we have ordered in the past (IE: www.amax.com) which is a major plus because that means cheaper freight costs

We have already contacted them to open up a corporate account and are working on that.

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Great to hear you ordered a few from them :)

On both my servers, ran some load tests on each server with httpd (brut force testing) with 200 users, 2000 connections, running at a steady 10 minutes, loads were around 30-40 with just 128 mb ram

My basic configuration for each server was

P3 866 / Intel mobo / 40 gig hd x 2 / standard 1u case / 128mb ram, slim cdrom

2nd server was a Intel Celeron 900 / Intel mobo / 40 gig hd / 128 mb ram / standard 1u case + stand cd-rom

both cases came with lockable fronts, which i wasnt expecting and really liked :)

They also came in at 50% less weight then other servers we have ordered in the past (IE: www.amax.com) which is a major plus because that means cheaper freight costs

We have already contacted them to open up a corporate account and are working on that.


great :) i think the lockable fronts is a good marketing tool to your dedicated customers telling them that their server is locked up and secure.

thanks m8

elijaH:)

Wow, I didn't know people would host on a $500 server. Like a few other posters, I'd have some serious anxiety over the hardware issues. While a good deal is nice to come by, you always get what you paid for.

I currently use a old Dell PowerEdge 2200 and have not had any problems in the 3 years of service it's given me. I building a new server to replace my old battle ridden Dell. Instead of rushing out and ordering a new Dell, I'm going with Sun. I love Sun hardware. It doesn't break. I've admin'd some serious Sun boxes and can honestly say that Sun has the best hardware and the best hardware/os compatability.

I guess it depends on what you're using it for. $500 for a cheap 1u that will serve as an extra dns or mx server? Great! $500 for a 1u server that will serve as your customers business? or worse yet, your business? Yikes!
:eek2:

After years of watching Intels fry in the data center I'm less likely to take chances with cheap hardware. But if ya got the guts, roll them dice!

Originally posted by blazarium
Wow, I didn't know people would host on a $500 server.

Ours will be used for backups, DNS, Mail server as well as non-profit webhosting for non-profit organizations, gotta help out the needy you see.


elijaH:)

Dells are good, but you can get equally good if not better configurations from places like



www.interpromicro.com and www.qsol.com

QSOL especially. Their whitebox sun 1Us you cant get anywhere.. Their AMD servers are nice aswell

Our 1U server start at 540 US Dollar

http://www.1u-server.de/

Best quality from germany

Regards
L. Daehn