My father bought a truck (i think its a bulldozer or something) online, and wireed $14k or so to the bank account.

Later on he found out it was fraud and so he tried to get the money back by doing a reverse wire transfer, but to do that they need to ask the owner of the account it went into permission and he/she can either reject or accept the reversal.

Along with the reversal he had his lawyer accompany a letter demanding the funds be returned.

Now, the scammer denied the reversal of funds - what are the options my father has?

The two parties are in differant states, what can be done by my father and his lawyer to get the money back? The only info they have on the guy is the info needed for a wire transaction.

Bank Name
Routing #
Account #
Bank City/State

What kind of information can they obtain and what can they do?

Does anyone have suggestions I can give him?

Drive to the address and confront him face to face.(depending on distance)

There is no address, the only information he has is what i listed..... and what good if a face to face confrontation...

what are our legal options at this juncture

You wired 14k to an account without first getting an address, calling the person or getting any good information first?

Face to face oftens solves problems, especially when accompanied by the Po.

Maybe try a chargeback with VISA? Was the money wired by WU by any chance?

a wire is a bank to bank transfer, visa and wu arnt wires... so "chargebacks" dont apply here.

and I didnt do anything, this is for a relative, and the guy supposedly called them.

i believe this was off ebay, so the scammers address would not be needed in any case...

And no, theyre not within distance for face to face, so what can we do?

What can the lawyer do? Im hoping to get some answers from those in the law enforcement field or legal area here on WHT as I know theres a few.

Transactions such as this is the reason that they make escrow. Not that this would solve your current problem, but a word of warning to everyone, NEVER EVER just wire transfer an amount of money such as 14k to anyone, if this was an Ebay transaction, Ebay has a deal where they will act as the escrow agent. This solves a lot of headache's even if the purchased item was delivered but not satisfactory.

Sorry to hear what happened Matthew. I would call or visit your local police office with or without a lawyer and take things from there.

Ohhh, its hard to believe some will do such high financial transatcions without followup first :-(
as proberts mentions "escrow"
You do mention though that your father has a lawyer so I would think he is handling it.

If it was through E-bay contect them, they may be able to do something.

I would think your best bet to find out what legal recourse there is would be to ask your lawyer.

If you have the bank wire information your father and his lawyer would be able to get his money back. I suggest contacting the local authorities for help.

Are you saying your father's lawyer doesn't know what to do?

If that's the case, get a different lawyer.

If I had your Bank Name, Routing #, Account #, Bank City/State, and had sent you a disputed amount of money; I could get your name and address easily enough. And I'm not a lawyer!

Are you sure your dad needs help?

I'm amazed you sent $16,000.00 over the net with just having the name of the guy. I mean, you really need to learn from something like this.

I wish you well in getting your money back, I'm sure you can get some more valuable details from the current ones you have and get the person locked up.

Find out his adress.. drive over there.. Get your money back, and then beat the cr*p out of the guy!

I agree. You need a new lawyer. A lawyer who knew what they were doing, would be able to put in any of that information and get more than enough information on the person in order to bring them to justice.

If I were still doing "private investigation" at my job, I would offer to help you out. Unfortunately I was moved to a different department so I don't have access to our investigation tools anymore. But like I said, contact another lawyer. They'll be able to find the person and get your money back with ease.

open a can of whoop-***, ive got a few spares

Take this info that he gave you

Bank Name
Routing #
Account #
Bank City/State


And start replying to EVERY nigerian scam email you get!

Contact the FBI at once. It may be a dead end, however. I hate scammers, and am trying to bring one down myself at the moment, but he's in Canada.

-Josh