I just wanted to know that the server with the below mentioned specification worth $2223 per year ?
The Specifiocations are as follows :-
• Dual Intel Pentium III 550 MHz
• Unix / Apache OS **
• 256 KB cache
• 512 MB RAM
• Three 15 GB ATA/66
• Dual 100 MBps Bay Networks Ethernet Cards
• 32-Bit PCI Graphics Adapater w/ 2 MB RAM
• 507 IP Addresses
• 200 GB Transfer Per Month
• PLESK Server Administrator
• Pre-Installed Software
• Requires 1 Year Pre Pay Contract
• $2000 Per Year + $223 Setup Fees

Yep. :)

On the face of it, it looks like a great deal. You're talking an average of $185 monthly, including the set up fee, (or $166.67 without it), for a substantial server and a generous amount of bandwidth.

That's the problem. It looks like too good of a deal. The clincher is the prepayment for a full year. That's a common trait among some of the worst companies in the business. There's a substantial difference between a year long contract, where you pay monthly, and one like this where you pay for the whole year up front.

Frankly, it sets off my BS detector (Bogus Sale) big time. It's a three alarm story. If big companies like Dell Hosting, who have some amazing prices, or Dialtone and catalog, which have some of the lowest, are substantially higher, then that should suggest something.

Besides, you;re only talking hardware and connectivity, Without the right company, they mean nothing. The way con men work is to gain your confidence (hence the term). One way is to offer a deal that sounds too good to be true. It probably is.

I think a reputable company would just hold you to a 12 month contract. One that isn't will just hold your money.



[Edited by Duster on 10-24-2000 at 10:10 AM]

• Dual Intel Pentium III 550 MHz
• Unix / Apache OS **
• 256 KB cache
• 512 MB RAM
• Three 15 GB ATA/66
• Dual 100 MBps Bay Networks Ethernet Cards
• 32-Bit PCI Graphics Adapater w/ 2 MB RAM
• 507 IP Addresses
• 200 GB Transfer Per Month
• PLESK Server Administrator
• Pre-Installed Software
• Requires 1 Year Pre Pay Contract
• $2000 Per Year + $223 Setup Fees

the RAM is 512 , HD 45 GB, 507 IP address, 200 GB transfer
for less than $200?????

like Duster says, i think it is a con deal ... the company got to be losing $$$. Just think if you use 200GB a month, would the company lose $$$$

aaronx88

I am a bit curious as to what company is offering this unbelievable deal (in the literal sense). Perhaps you could post its URL.

But the thing is that this is not their regular price this is a promotional offer valid only till 6th November

The limited time special can be a hook to get you to part with your money immediately. If it was ongoing, you might take your time.

There are legitimate companies that do have specials, so that alone doesn't signify anything. The year paid up front still remains a warning sign, along with the too good to be true (even as a special) deal.

I'd still like to see the URL for the company.

Ye man, ye! Give us the url and then we can help ya out.

Da lowest rate I seen for bandwidth is $2/gig per month.

So, 200gig x $2 x 12months = $4800

Sumtin wrong?

Let us know the URL !!

My post was a bit short. It *is* a good deal, but only if it with a reputable company, etc. Without knowing this, then it might be one of the best bad deals I've seen. Know whuddameanjellybean?

Looks like that they have extended the offer till 30th of Nomember .
Another Thing I was wrong they dont provide 200 GB bandwidth with the server Bandwidth is seperate @ $1 per 3GB

give us the url... or are you just mean? :p

Give us the URL or you get the CDS.. hehe.. naa.. common dude.. lets share here... email us if you wont. :)

Ok Tommie,

ahhh, URL PLEASE!!! :D

Hi Guys,
I think I know the provider Tommie is talking about infact I had been their subscriber since the last 4 months only cancled it a week ago. The URL is http://server-source.net without www in the begining. I think they are the best provider they have a classy service. I have a list of their Good Sides & Bad Sides.
Good Sides :-
1. Excelent Service
2. Excelent Customer Support
3. Really Fast Connection
4. If you want to unscribe in the between of your contract they refund your money. Like I had used the Linux Server Reseller for 4 months they returned me the 8 Months fees @ $150 per month. I got back $1200.
5. The Cheapest Bandwidth Rate i.e. $1 per 3GB of band width

Bad Sides :-
1. They Dont Provide their Telephone Numbers
2. They Require a minimum 1 or 2 year contract pre paid.

I would say that If I would not have gone through a loss I would have continued with them & If I was to rate them out of 10 I would rate them 9.75 or even 10 .

Can somebody please explain why you can't do a whois search on them??? No records found. Domain available for registration. Definitely something wrong!!!

Why is it that dedicated companies are struggling for business? You must see the under cover offers I have received from NetInfra, also pre-payed for a year.

Hello,

Here is the Whois for this company. It seems, at least from the Whois record, that the domain was created on 10/24/00, yesterday. In that case, this thread seems to be just an attempt to gain cheap advertisement.



Server Source Inc. (SERVER-SOURCE-NET-DOM)
3508 38th Street
Sacramento, CA 95817
US

Domain Name: SERVER-SOURCE.NET

Administrative Contact:
Vincent Flores (VF54-BR) vincentf@sub-mail.com
Server Source Inc.
3508 38th Street
Sacramento, CA 95817
US
Phone- 1-877-901-0250
Fax- 1-877-901-0250
Technical Contact:
Vincent Flores (VF54-BR) vincentf@sub-mail.com
Server Source Inc.
3508 38th Street
Sacramento, CA 95817
US
Phone- 1-877-901-0250
Fax- 1-877-901-0250

Record updated on 2000-10-24.
Record created on 2000-10-24.
Record expires on 2001-10-24.
Database last updated on 2000-10-25 03:56:34 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.SERVER-SOURCE.NET 208.56.74.84
NS2.SERVER-SOURCE.NET 64.176.147.

If it was for real, I'd probably buy the thing and just sell the bandwidth... lol. Economically, that pricing makes no sense -- which kind of makes me wonder if they'd still be there after the check cleared. But apparently somebody (above) likes 'em, so maybe I'll have a look-see.

[Edited by etLux on 10-25-2000 at 06:40 PM]

It seems like they are hosted with Alabanza? Is it just me? or what?

EVERYONE is hosted with Alabanza. They've secretly taken over the entire Internet.

Lol.. yea.. and your brain has been doing to much of coding lately ;)

Geez, I thought you were kidding... lol.

Tracing route to server-source.net [64.177.29.3]


7 171 ms 59 ms 21 ms gbr3-p80.cb1ma.ip.att.net [12.122.5.61]
8 52 ms 27 ms 33 ms gbr4-p80.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.2.190]
9 24 ms 39 ms 41 ms gbr3-p60.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.1.121]
10 59 ms 26 ms 24 ms 12.122.2.166
11 555 ms 25 ms 69 ms gbr5-p60.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.5.193]
12 61 ms 28 ms 27 ms gar2-p360.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.57]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 39 ms 26 ms 35 ms unassigned.alabanza.com [64.176.255.249]
15 88 ms 51 ms 30 ms server-source.net [64.177.29.3]

Lol.. now you know. :)

What next? This?

Tracing route to microsoft.com [64.177.290.300]


7 171 ms 59 ms 21 ms gbr3-p80.cb1ma.ip.att.net [12.122.5.61]
8 52 ms 27 ms 33 ms gbr4-p80.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.2.190]
9 24 ms 39 ms 41 ms gbr3-p60.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.1.121]
10 59 ms 26 ms 24 ms 12.122.2.166
11 555 ms 25 ms 69 ms gbr5-p60.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.5.193]
12 61 ms 28 ms 27 ms gar2-p360.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.57]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 39 ms 26 ms 35 ms unassigned.alabanza.com [64.176.255.249]
15 88 ms 51 ms 30 ms microsoft.com [64.177.290.300]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY GOD!! SAY IT OOOOOOOOOO MY GOOD!!
Check this out


10/26/00 04:52:04 whois Microsoft.com
.com is a domain of USA & International Commercial
Searches for .com can be run at http://www.crsnic.net/

whois -h whois.crsnic.net microsoft.com ...

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET
MICROSOFT.COM.IS.RULED.BY.HACKERJACK.COM
MICROSOFT.COM

To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the
of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up
with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record.

>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:07:30 EDT <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.

Where are you getting that from etLux? Anyone with some knowledge of IPs would know that 300 on the end is a huge discrepancy...

Funnily enough however, my traceroutes are timing out bad, even though I can get through to their site..

Bwahahahhahhahah It looks like we're spectators in the middle of a hijacking attack!

The whois was done using Sam Spade version 1.14

It's for real... lol...

Try here:

http://www.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois?whois_nic=microsoft.com

I always knew there was something shifty about that Gates guy.



[Edited by etLux on 10-25-2000 at 07:34 PM]

What is happening??

I have a suspicion someone's using the 'forged e-mail' trick to hijack Microsoft's domains :D

Serves them right too for not switching authentication methods.

Well, this "tommie" person and "source..." are both using the "@sub-mail.com" domain, the only thing that is different is the part before the "@"

Go to the sub-mail com website. They provide anonymous email. heeheeha, I'm laughing so much I need to see a doctor.

Where is tommie anyways???

But... but... but... this is... INTERNIC!

Everyone knows they're so secure that not even God could break in.

This must be the truth, because it says so, right here on INTERNIC, right?


http://www.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois?whois_nic=microsoft.com


Maybe Bill is finally just coming clean.

This is getting "Bonkers!"

Can't see anything wrong with microsofts pages yet.

some basic notions of DNS...
:)
someone created a sub domain of microsoft... so you could do that:

microsoft.com.can-host.com

that wouldnt mean that microsoft.com is hosted by us, but that we created a dns record pointing to there :P

Of course, internic shouldnt be showing that stuff :) I wonder what the hell is going on ovr there

That's quite true, Felix, and that was what I originally thought. However, the 'contact' names now give it away and the false IP address posted by etLux rounds things off.

I wonder if this is why I one of my sites keeps getting routed to RussianDancingGirls.ru ...

If you were to search for "eebu" you'll see two entries much like what you see for microsoft.com (it just means there are are more than 1 record matching that description. Why you can't single out microsoft.com is beyond me, but I don't think you are witnessing an attack.

Its all an Illusion! :)

Hmmmm...... *mind gets murkier*

Ok, time out for me :D Anyone want some coffee? ;)

Meeeee.. its 5:32am here.. man.. i need some sleep! ;)

Actually, coffee doesn't suit me at this time. What about :beer: ?

aai, it's 2pm here. Another 4 hours to go before sleep.

Has anybody figured tommie out?

Sorry, just signed up to reveal my ID. I'm Bogus.

Coffee, sorry don't drink.

Im ever ready for that BC :) As long as your paying.. :D

Well Hello there Bogus, welcome aboard.

Wait... doesn't BC *always* pay? That's why I was hanging around this joint.

well BC???? I am new here.. So BC.. do you? :)

Suppose you going to ask me why were you "Bogus"

Tommie originally posted a message on my BBS wanting to know whether I was interested in a special offer but kept on hiding the URL and promising to email me, so I managed to trace him (or her) to this BBS.

Shortly afterwards I received an email from him (her).
That's how I picked up on the suspicious email addresses.

Thanks for the welcome aboard.

I've been "Dylan Guest" for quite a while.

Private eye Dylan :)

Yep! One of the many things I do.

*adds him to his address book for future reference* :)

back in the ms...
http://networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=microsoft.com

Microsoft Corporation (MICROSOFT-DOM) 1 microsoft way redmond, WA 98052 US
Domain Name: MICROSOFT.COM Administrative Contact:
Microsoft Hostmaster (MH37-ORG) msnhst@MICROSOFT.COM Microsoft Corp
One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052 US 425 882 8080
Fax- - - .: 206 703 2641 Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
MSN NOC (MN5-ORG) msnnoc@MICROSOFT.COM Microsoft Corp
One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052 US 425 882 8080
Fax- PATH Billing Contact:
Microsoft-Internic Billing Issues (MDB-ORG) msnbill@MICROSOFT.COM
Microsoft Corp One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052 US
425 882 8080 Fax- ïvxt Record last updated on 29-Sep-2000.
Record expires on 03-May-2010. Record created on 02-May-1991.
Database last updated on 24-Oct-2000 16:49:02 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order: DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.11
DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.12 DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.20
DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.21

enjoy!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr And I was trying to weasel my way out of it and make all of you pay for the :beer: ;)

(seriously, free keg, refilled often, help yourself. Just be warned : if you get too drunk the CDS will shame you for our own pleasure :D)

Felix : yep, getting that output back too..

When I grow up, I definitely want to join the CDS. I'm really into shaming people for my own pleasure, too.

EtLux, ain't ya grown up already?

PaulJ = Tommie = Source...

kunal, you are going to have to change your address book to:

Dr. Dylan (hyp)

hyp?

Grown up? Certainly not. If I was, I'd probably get a real job, instead of running web sites... lol.

Yes, I'm a T. Med Pract (traditional doctor, not medicine) and hypnotherapist (abbreviated "hyp")

Seems a good price. I am always leary of prepaid long contracts. What if the service is not what you expected Can you get out?
Personally i like the month to month deals It keeps the hosting company honest. We buy our bandwidth like that so the provider HAS to maintain the service standard or run the real risk of losing a large customer.

I agree with excalibur on the matter of long-term contracts. Early in the game, I got burned on a couple of these. The 'Net's a volatile economic environment. Both your needs and what a provider has to do to remain profitable can change rapidly, so getting "locked in" often isn't a great idea on either side of the wire.

Has anyone signed up with them? Any comments?

"PaulJ" posted some info earlier, but I find it suspicious because he used Anonymizer to hide his IP address...

I think you'd be better off ignoring PaulJ and tommie's posts. If you can find anything on them other than that...

Hi all

somebody can tell me more informations about this company?
What this this community about this dedicated plans of this company, is a serious company or not.

Thanx for all

Sorry for my english .
Best regards for all members
Marcos

Marcos, I'd look elsewhere for hosting.

Originally posted by Chicken
Marcos, I'd look elsewhere for hosting.


Way ? Becaus I search for a dedicated server I creating a search engine with more 10.000 link iwith SQL database, and other services for a italian comunity, I see the source-server planing for dedicated SERVER I think more 2900$/year for a decicated server with 2GB RAM ,Win NT PIII is not badly

Somebody can tell my some dedicated hosting, recomadated and very good
wirh Nt or W2000 Os

Best regards

Jeez, what a long topic. Too bad I'm getting in on it too late. :)

I think that Microsoft change had to do with the attack recently. Microsoft said that their source code was downloaded for Windows platforms, and possibly modified. Just think ... if crackers have the source code to Win2K now and find one small error in it, everyone using it could be doomed. Furthermore, they could have altered the source code to add a small unnoticable change which would let them take control in future releases.

That's why I use Linux. ;)

Marcos,

If you read through the thread you'll realise why - it just seems too good to be true. And on the Net, if it's too good to be true, it is.

I suggest you look at http://www.webexpose.net or http://www.catalog.com for your needs.