List the differences between americans and the europeans except the language part...lets see what americans think of europeans and vice versa.

europeans pay way more for gas and care about american problems
americans pay less for gas and don't really care as much about stuff

This is what an European told me once: America is our back yard for our drop out kids to hang around. lol

Arent most Europeans less inhibited compared to Americans when it comes to sex ?

What is Europe?

Originally posted by Webdude
What is Europe?

It is filled with a bunch of countries very much like the states in the USA, but they decided it would be better if they all spoke different languages and required a passport to cross their borders.. Makes things eaiser that way..

Originally posted by Trifolic
It is filled with a bunch of countries very much like the states in the USA, but they decided it would be better if they all spoke different languages and required a passport to cross their borders.. Makes things eaiser that way..

Sounds kinda backwards to me. Passports to cross borders? Wow, must be rough. Is it over there close to Narnia?

America is the best hands down, there are no other countries other than America ;)

That is what everyone else thinks Americans think about them. Not true! Not true! :)

Derrick

In America, we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway... I think that's just a special think we do here :D.

Originally posted by Webdude
What is Europe?
Isn't it a County of Texas, like Australia? :P

Originally posted by Trifolic
It is filled with a bunch of countries very much like the states in the USA, but they decided it would be better if they all spoke different languages and required a passport to cross their borders.. Makes things eaiser that way..
Yeah, it would be different, living in a land mass where all countries are basically one. That's a difficult concept for us aussies, as we are 1 land mass and 1 country, surrounded by a good mass of ocean. :)

Originally posted by gina_TVI
Arent most Europeans less inhibited compared to Americans when it comes to sex ?

heh, that's what many Americans believe or want to believe about those immoral Europeans :)

Actually, I believe that in general the Europeans are less inhibited when it comes to talking about sex, and the Americans are less inhibited when it comes to actually doing it.
Pretending to have high morals is not the same as actually having them :)

Several studies in the past on sexual activity showed the US always at #1 regarding: most sexual partners, sex at young age and cheating.

I found a study online here :
http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/factsheet/fsest.htm

Originally posted by barleduc
I found a study online here :
http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/factsheet/fsest.htm

To bad they left Thailand and other countries where prostitution is 100x as much as the US out of that survey..

Originally posted by Trifolic
To bad they left Thailand and other countries where prostitution is 100x as much as the US out of that survey..

I didn't know Thailand was in Europe :)

I like European women. Oh sure, they have the hairy underarms and don't always practice the best hygiene, but those accents are really sexy and they know how to party. :)

Originally posted by Webdude
Is it over there close to Narnia?

probably to the left of the wardrobe...
anybody know if there are there any lions there?

Originally posted by Trifolic
and required a passport to cross their borders..

Nope! Don't even have border control anymore.

ok whos actually been europe?
IN Britain, we have a rather High teen pregnancy rate
our sex education is crap!
everyone wants sex at the age off 14
Alot off teenagers nowadays smoke drugs, or even do drugs ( pills etc )
Theres is starting to become alot of violence in some areas, specially areas where i live.
Most feel the Americans Think to much of themselves
British girls dont have hairy armpits ;)
yes we need passports 2 cross the borders, But im sure your smart enough to know why
Security reasons etc.

Europe isnt that bad ;) Give it a visit some time

Originally posted by Bully
British girls dont have hairy armpits ;)
everyone wants sex at the age of 14

I'm moving to the UK.

Hairy armpits for women? errrrrrrr :erm: :eek3:

well i should refrase that, "Most People"
im almost 17
my mates sister is 12! and shes always comming on to me, it is rather scary actually. GIrls just think sex is everything nowadays, well the young girls any way.

Alot off teenagers nowadays smoke drugs, or even do drugs ( pills etc )

My boss told me to get harder drugs lol

And yes, it's true about the sex thing at young ages, especially where I'm at (although I think the girls are clever enough to take the pill here).

I'm moving to the UK.

Just don't go down south or the west :)

I mean it, I'm getting on a plane today I'm going to crash at bully's house. (hope he doesnt mind)

^^ LOL

Leicester ... very low crime rate compared to here lol, you might like it :)

lol, Leicester is getting worse each year imo though.

The whole of Britain is. Here in Middlesbrough is so run down, you would of thought they would of done something with all these deserted houses :(

I once thought this area was nice, then they did a documentary about Middlesbrough, man was I wrong lol

lol ;) true u was v wrong!

but i meen, you cant walk outside your house, Without having a group of lads with a bottle off Cider in there hand,
or go 2 the park, to have the same affect, and them taking there drugs, ive had a few fites in my life because of drunken lads started trouble for no reason,
imo they need to start getting stricter on alchahol!

Yea, here they do it without being drunk lol. I don't know about being stricter, because if they're old enough they will still drink. Right now, the police here come round my street at least once every 2 hours on a night from past trouble.

But back on topic; America and Europe aren't much different, poverty, crime, nice areas, $hit3 areas. Both are unaware on how much killing really happens, how much prostitution and other crimes. The main and probably only difference is my custom title and that Europe is still growing in physical size (land) apart from languages of course, but most speak english very well.

Originally posted by pmoduk2
and that Europe is still growing in physical size (land)
So Europe's land mass expands when needed? :eek:

Originally posted by anon-e-mouse
So Europe's land mass expands when needed? :eek:

Yes ! By dumping their garbage into the sea :D

An American soldier gets on a train in Britain. He goes to his reserved seat only to find a poodle occupying it. He tries to shoo away the poodle and take his seat. But the poodle's owner, a British lady shouts and screams at him "You Americans dont have any manners, you are all uncultured, you dont deserve a seat in our trains. Get off now"

The soldier goes away hoping he can find another seat elsewhere on the train. All the seats are occupied and so he returns to his compartment thinking maybe the lady would allow him.

Again the haughty lady shouts and screams at the American soldier. The soldier gets annoyed and he is tired so he throws the lady's poodle out of the train and sits in the seat ignoring the screaming lady.

A gentleman seated nearby turns to the American soldier and says " You Americans always do things wrongly: you drive on the wrong side of the road, you eat holding the fork in the wrong hand, now you have thrown the wrong bitch out of the train"

:D

LOL now thats funny

^^ LOL

anon - I mean that more countries are joining "Europe", getting away from communism.

i just want it to be Britain, no europe ;)

Originally posted by Webdude
What is Europe?

Some piece of old land roughly sized Brazil?

hmm, interesting: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2174rank.html

the USA uses around 4x the oil of the UK per person

Originally posted by Bully
GIrls just think sex is everything nowadays, well the young girls any way.

Ohhhhhh...... r e a l l y ?? :pimp:

Are web cams popular over there?:pray:

Oh well no kidding. We have a lot further to drive. Hell my state is bigger than the UK .... LOL

Talked too much about the UK. Now what do you think about France? :)

Are french women better than british women? lol

Are web cams popular over there?

Yes

Are french women better than british women? lol

No

Talked too much about the UK. Now what do you think about France?

I could write thousands of words telling you everything negative about the French, so to sum it up, I think they suck lol

Originally posted by pmoduk2

I could write thousands of words telling you everything negative about the French, so to sum it up, I think they suck lol

... and I am sure the French could write thousands of words telling you negative things about us brits, your point?


Europeans tend to know there are other people living on earth other than those in their own country. (geography)

in Europe, they are more laid back when it comes to work. They work, don't get me wrong, but they also know how to enjoy life.

In America, we are always rushing and always working, we are always on the GO.

I was born in Italy, as an AMerican Citizen. So I'm lucky to be able to see both 'sides of the world'.

Originally posted by pmoduk2
they suck lol

Well I dont know about you, but I like any woman that does regardless of nationaility :D

... and I am sure the French could write thousands of words telling you negative things about us brits, your point?

Giving my opinion just as asked.

Rob83 - My personal life comes before everything, especially when it comes down to my girlfriend :)

EDIT - http://www.fiskpinne.com/misc/eu_and_usa.jpg that's the BIGGEST difference :)

of what ive witnessed, we dont have the best relationship with the french ;)
But hell, Its a better country than ours, they get nicer weather! Cheaper booze etc :)

But they also drive on the wrong side of the road :P

Originally posted by pmoduk2
Giving my opinion just as asked.

Rob83 - My personal life comes before everything, especially when it comes down to my girlfriend :)

EDIT - http://www.fiskpinne.com/misc/eu_and_usa.jpg that's the BIGGEST difference :)

LOL at the picture, so true
and again, Yes they do drive on the wrong side of the road! fools, lol

:rofl: :rofl:

Originally posted by pmoduk2

EDIT - http://www.fiskpinne.com/misc/eu_and_usa.jpg that's the BIGGEST difference :)

We can agree here :D
Oh and having travelled around Europe I can tell you, I would take a European bird anyday over a British las.

Originally posted by s.h.a.zz.y
We can agree here :D
Oh and having travelled around Europe I can tell you, I would take a European bird anyday over a British las.

and so would i!
get a nice European chick not french though!

But my Girlfriend has French blood in her :angry: lol

Originally posted by Bully
of what ive witnessed, we dont have the best relationship with the french ;)


I am not so sure I would agree with you there ...

well our relationship hasnt been the best, since mad cow etc

and so would i!
get a nice European chick not french though!

But my Girlfriend has French blood in her lol

Amen.

My girlfriend has a French side too, her grandparents are from Canada or something. If you forget about France and Germany, Europe has the worlds best girls ;)

Yer, but its weird,i find alot of girls from canada very sexy too

Amen lol, must be a British thing

ok Heres a big diffence ive found when i go america, compared to britain
I find they dont care about Fashion as much, maybe im wrong as ive only visited Florida 3 times, and miami, no where else

But Us british, we care how we look, and alot about Fashion, got to have Expensive shirts for wear, nice cufflinks, Nice fashionable Trainers, and Clothes with brand names etc,
The american teens ( what i noticed in florida )
jsut stuck a baggy top on, put there cap on sidewards, and werent too bothered,
Us British, We Need to look fashionable, We like to show how much money weve got, by what we wear, etc
Maybe not for all off britain, but definetly around where i live

Maybe not for all off britain, but definetly around where i live

That's because you don't live in ... Middlesbrough

LOL

Well, maybe they do care, maybe they think that's fashionable :S lol. I sorta do care about fashion but not to show off or show how much money I have, but to feel good about myself, just like working out, I feel good that I look good. Maybe Americans prefer eating :D

Originally posted by Bully
ok Heres a big diffence ive found when i go america, compared to britain
I find they dont care about Fashion as much, maybe im wrong as ive only visited Florida 3 times, and miami, no where else

But Us british, we care how we look, and alot about Fashion, got to have Expensive shirts for wear, nice cufflinks, Nice fashionable Trainers, and Clothes with brand names etc,
The american teens ( what i noticed in florida )
jsut stuck a baggy top on, put there cap on sidewards, and werent too bothered,
Us British, We Need to look fashionable, We like to show how much money weve got, by what we wear, etc
Maybe not for all off britain, but definetly around where i live

in Miami, we want to look good. We don't care if it's brand name (tho your brand names are probably not ours). We like to wear Sean John's (P. Diddy)

LOL

true that is probably there fashion, but its scruffy lol

I know people in there 30-40's buyting there 1 year old kids NIKE trainers, ETC, its kinda funny, when i was that age, my parents couldnt anything like that,

Originally posted by Gen-T
I like European women. Oh sure, they have the hairy underarms and don't always practice the best hygiene, but those accents are really sexy and they know how to party. :)

ever visited Russia? I suggest taking a trip to Moscow (May and June is a perfect time - they started wearing short skirts over there right now) - I'm quite sure you won't find any better place on the Earth in terms of amount of sexiest ladies per square meter. They are also easy to get :)

M.

Originally posted by Rob83
in Miami, we want to look good. We don't care if it's brand name (tho your brand names are probably not ours). We like to wear Sean John's (P. Diddy)

Miami did look alot better than florida, especially at night time, i couldnt believe my eyes on what some people was wearing, hardly anything! lol,
We do have different names

Heres a few of ours

Henri Lloyd
FCUK
Diesel
etc etc.

I noticed there was some FCUK clothes in usa, had to look hard to find it though.

interesting...

'French Connection United Kingdom' clothes in the USA :D

Originally posted by Bully
Miami did look alot better than florida, especially at night time, i couldnt believe my eyes on what some people was wearing, hardly anything! lol,
We do have different names

Heres a few of ours

Henri Lloyd
FCUK
Diesel
etc etc.

I noticed there was some FCUK clothes in usa, had to look hard to find it though.

Miami is a city, Florida is a state.

FCUK, Diesel, Sean John, Tommy, those are a few of the brands we wear. But as long as you look good, that's all that counts.

You are going to find people who follow fashion trends in every country (and those who don't give a damn), you will compare chicks (and guys), you will compare lifestyle but it all boils down to "it's a small world" after all. :) I have chatted with people from many countries and to me, most could be living next door with all the lifestyle similarities.

Originally posted by Rob83
Miami is a city, Florida is a state.

yes i know that
I stayed in Orlando, but took aweekend down to miami.
I should of really said, In orlando the seemd to have no fashion clothes.
but if i had a choice of Leicester, or Orlando, i know which id choose, would be orlando, Much better imo

^^ Yep. The whole world is pretty much the same, with a few exceptions.

No Country in Europe has the death penalty.

Simon

Originally posted by Miha
ever visited Russia? I suggest taking a trip to Moscow (May and June is a perfect time - they started wearing short skirts over there right now) - I'm quite sure you won't find any better place on the Earth in terms of amount of sexiest ladies per square meter. They are also easy to get :)

I'm surfing around right now, checking the prices to travel there. :)

Originally posted by Bully
ok Heres a big diffence ive found when i go america, compared to britain
I find they dont care about Fashion as much

The american teens ( what i noticed in florida )
jsut stuck a baggy top on, put there cap on sidewards, and werent too bothered

Ahhhh yes, but you must understand... many of those baggy clothes and worn-out looking accessories are actually very expensive. This strange trend is to pay $150 for a shirt that looks like it cost $5. Amazingly, this is the sign of good taste to some groups of youngsters. It must drive their parents crazy.

P.S. anon-e-mouse has posted twice in this thread. I don't know about anybody else, but that makes me happy. :)

Europe has palaces and royal families.

America has no palaces nor royal families.

Originally posted by RajanUrs
Europe has palaces and royal families.

America has no palaces nor royal families.

Correct. But we have Microsoft :D

Originally posted by RajanUrs
Europe has palaces and royal families.

America has no palaces nor royal families.

JustinH, that pic would be more accurately described as a royal throne. :D

Originally posted by Webdude
What is Europe?

:eek:

Originally posted by Gen-T
I like European women. Oh sure, they have the hairy underarms and don't always practice the best hygiene, but those accents are really sexy and they know how to party. :)

your talking about the german chicks dood, i can vouch for the fact that english chicks are shaved. mind i can go with the hygene thing first bird i had stank so bad it put me off going south of the belly button for three birds after.........

LOL!! Get a cheerleader :P

Originally posted by Rob83
Correct. But we have Microsoft :D


Yes. But Europe has Mercedes-Benz, Rolls Royce, BMW, Ferrari,Porsche, Peugeot and none of them crash for no reason.

:rofl:

There's a lot of difference between the two, but comparing a continent, to a single country is a little weird.

There's so many different cultures in Europe, so it's very difficult, if not impossible to distinguish.

Europe ranges from place to place.

Ireland: Beautiful, friendly, and just plain nice. My first home :)

England: Nice in parts, generally friendly to "The Yanks", but no so friendly to other's, including their closest neightbours, the french, the scost, the welsh, and the Irish. I basically lived in Leeds 2 days of each week for 3 years, so I do have a lot of experience with the brits. (went to LUFC games - season ticket holder)

France: Paris is an absolute dump in most places. Last time I was there, we got a prank pulled on us, and were told to visit "a great shopping area" on 'Rue Saint Denis'.. turns out it's the red light district..

Other places I've been;

Bulgaria: purely stunning place, in parts. SunnyBeach was one of the best vacations of my life

Majorca, Menorca, and Ibiza: Great islands 5 years ago.. now there's too many brits and germans there, all year round

Holland; only been twice, one was to Heerenveen for a football match, the other was on a school study in '95, it seems like a nice place though.

Turkey:
Been twice, one was awesome, the other was the worst night of my life.
1st time was a holiday: Great place to vacation
2nd time was the Leeds United VS Galatasaray football match. Some fans were killed by a group of blood thirsty turkish football fans, and all fans were bannished to their hotel rooms until the match started. We had to be escorted into the stadium, and subjected to fireworks been thrown at us, whilst the turkish police turned a blind eye :( (most brits will remember this)

North America VS Europe, would be a better comparison.

Simon

Originally posted by RajanUrs
Yes. But Europe has Mercedes-Benz, Rolls Royce, BMW, Ferrari,Porsche, Peugeot and none of them crash for no reason.

:rofl:

we have viper http://www.vipercarparts.com/
corvette http://www.automotive.com/chevrolet/11/corvette/

and my personal favorite
1967 eleanor mustang http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/dealerbig.cfm?Autos__ID=000556-200403-000002

Originally posted by sailor
we have viper http://www.vipercarparts.com/
corvette http://www.automotive.com/chevrolet/11/corvette/

and my personal favorite
1967 eleanor mustang http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/dealerbig.cfm?Autos__ID=000556-200403-000002
I prefer the '67-'69 Camaro's :) I have a '68.

Simon

Originally posted by sailor
we have viper http://www.vipercarparts.com/
corvette http://www.automotive.com/chevrolet/11/corvette/

and my personal favorite
1967 eleanor mustang http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/dealerbig.cfm?Autos__ID=000556-200403-000002

The '1967 Eleanor Mustang' is one car americans can be proud of ... I would take an Porsche/Ferrari/Skyliner(japanese) over the Viper or the Corvette.

OR better still I would take an Aston Martin :D

Between the US and the UK their have been some interesting physiological studies.

In a study that was published in the *Lancet* which is a highly respected UK medical journal they featured the results of the largest comprehensive scientific study relating diet to physiology.

Overall American men had a higher muscle to bone ratio than the British men but had significantly smaller penile measurements than British men, height wise American men on average are taller than British men as well.

Explanations for this fact has been suggested that the American diet is consisting of more Milk and Meat per capita consumption at a lower age than compared to the British male counterparts.

Other interesting features are that on average American have larger feet, and American women are also taller than British women.

Just thought it was intersting.

America is a nation of refugees

Europe is a refuge of nations

:D

Originally posted by Tanuk
Between the US and the UK their have been some interesting physiological studies.

In a study that was published in the *Lancet* which is a highly respected UK medical journal they featured the results of the largest comprehensive scientific study relating diet to physiology.

Overall American men had a higher muscle to bone ratio than the British men but had significantly smaller penile measurements than British men, height wise American men on average are taller than British men as well.

Explanations for this fact has been suggested that the American diet is consisting of more Milk and Meat per capita consumption at a lower age than compared to the British male counterparts.

Other interesting features are that on average American have larger feet, and American women are also taller than British women.

Just thought it was intersting.

that sounds weird - which american men were they sampling?

there is a huge diversity here - so its hard to classify us. are you talking of asian descent, african descent or eurpean descent
or only ones that are a complete mix of the 3?
I think that will widely vary on those measurements you spoke of.

I lived over in Europe for about 7 years and I remember having a great time.

I visited lots of places which had really amazing histories.
I remember visiting a ton of castles while I was in Germany in addittion to The Eagle's Nest. We also went to Amsterdamn where I got to visit Ann Franke's house. A lot of the things I did when I was younger were geared more towards history.

I also remember visiting the Swiss Alps which were the first mountains I ever snowboarded in. That was an amazing experience I just wish I was a little bit better at that time.

While Europe is great, I absolutely love America. I would not want to live anywhere else (though vacationing is always fun). Sure America has a lot of bad qualities - it just seems as though they're pointed out more often than other countries.

Anyway, the only big difference between Europe and America that I see is America's lack of really old history. That's something that I really enjoyed while I was in Europe.

It's hard to list the differences between us. In many respects we are the same:

Corrupt Politicians
Energy Problems
High Taxes
Crappy Courts
etc.


I think some of the ways we are different are:

Europeans like to use apeasement as a first action, America likes to use its fists as a first action.

America welcomes people of all races and religions. In europe it's mostly secular (hope thats the word I'm looking for).

In america we admit our wrongs and try to fix them, in europe they can do no wrong.

In america our politicians want to control the world, in europe their politicians want to control America.

Both of our continent have huge problem that will probably never be fixed until the people do something about it (instead of letting the politcians get away with murder).

I can say I wish america was like europe in these ways:

lower drinking age
drugs were legal
prostitution was legal
nuclear power was preferred
and we stayed out of other countries freaking business (quit trying to be the world police)

Originally posted by dk2
n america our politicians want to control the world, in europe their politicians want to control America.

That's nonsense, sorry.

Are you telling me that this whole time, whilst Bush and Blair have been best buds, sending their respective troops off to fight side by side, Blair's been trying to control the US?

Sorry, but I think it's the other way around. The UK is very similar to the US, in it's growing culture, and may aswell be another state. They are far from trying to control the US.

I'm not American, and I don't class my self as Eurpoean (technically, I should, as they joined the EU before I was born), as I'm from the Republic of Ireland.

Simon

Originally posted by RajanUrs
Yes. But Europe has Mercedes-Benz, Rolls Royce, BMW, Ferrari,Porsche, Peugeot and none of them crash for no reason.

:rofl:

dats actually very funny!!!! lol made me and my friends laugh

Europe has many cities that are famous worldwide, it consists of many countries known worldwide. Well, I think you could hardly find someone on the planet who hasn't heard about London, Paris, Praga, Roma, Madrid, Barcelona, Berlin, Frankfurt and a whole lot of other places. USA is mostly California, there would be LA, NYC, Florida every once in a while with Miami, Atlanta is popping out, because of the CNN and there could be a Seattle some times, plus the Washington city as a capital and the state of Texas. Other places are simply unknown to the worldwide audience. Sorry, almost left out Hawaii. If you ask me why, I think the Americans put it that way. You either live on the east coast, west coast or you don't live at all. I have a couple of friends from the states who speak poorly of the folks not living on the coast, usually refer to them as weirdos. A kind of people that used to get to the Jerry Springer show. That's sick.

Most of the Europeans don't have a gun in their home.
Most of the Europeans prefer talking to fighting.
Most of the Europeans mind their own business and not try to boss the whole world around.
Most of the Europeans have roots older than USA.
Most of the Europeans aren't racists.
Most of the Europeans are far better educated than the Americans (one of the reasons why it's so darn hard for a European kid to get into an American school, I hardly find it possibly that all the people I know who went from Europe to the States turned out to be the best in their class whether it was Harvard, Yale or any other place )
Most of the Europeans know far more about the States than the Americans know about Europe

I could probably go on, but that's enough.

Don't forget Americans make some nice cars too.

To classify the US and Europe is very hard, I think that the very biggest difference is our way of life (roots and how we grew up).

Both are culturally very similar

Originally posted by RajanUrs
Yes. But Europe has Mercedes-Benz, Rolls Royce, BMW, Ferrari,Porsche, Peugeot and none of them crash for no reason.

:rofl: Peugeot? I remember when Peugeot packed their bags and went back to France, muttering that Americans wouldn't know a decent car if it bit them. Problem is that we do....Peugeot just wasn't one.

It very difficult to compare just America to Europe when Europe itself has so many differences internally. The UK and USA are fairly similar I would say, same language is a big help over the other euro languages for a start!

Our Music and TV is much more American than Euro, for example with the World Pop Idol thing, most of the mainland euro entries were just crazy! Same with the Eurovision Song Contest, no other country really has similar styles to ours, although in this example in general all the songs are crap anyway!

Food in both countries is fairly similar again, whenever I go to America I never have a problem finding a nice meal (although you don't seem to have many vegetrians which annoys my sister!), when I go to Europe I normally end up just ordering a pizza or something because thats the only way I will know what will actually be served to me!

If I wasn't so tired I could probably think of more things to compare, but this is a start!

I say it depends on which part of Europe. Or which part of America. :)

europe hates america

Originally posted by webmultitude
I say it depends on which part of Europe. Or which part of America. :) Very true....People from LA are vastly different than people in N'Awlins (New Orleans), Chicago or Boston.

Originally posted by stilex
europe hates america

Even though this thread is in its nature very generalising... I would say that comment takes things too far.

I'm a European, and I certainly don't hate America.

Originally posted by stilex
europe hates america Everyone hates "those filthy pig dog Americans!"

But we're used to it.

Originally posted by auctionSuite
Peugeot? I remember when Peugeot packed their bags and went back to France, muttering that Americans wouldn't know a decent car if it bit them. Problem is that we do....Peugeot just wasn't one.

Well I guess then that must be the reason why Peugeot has been the world rally champion for several years now, the reason being that they make cars that suck, come to that I think they have been pretty lousy when it comes to stuff like Paris-Dakar, too. Yeah, Peugeot really sucks. Only not!

Well, is there like an American powered F1 team? Nothing comes to my mind.

True, there are some great American cars, but they only made 50 Tuckers. Viper? Tell me where's the fun in having an 8 liter engine that outputs less than 400 bhp. I think the first version had some 340 bhp. What a waste. Ever checked an F40, 3.6 liter engine 580 bhp, that's art. Tuning is an American sport, I'll give you that, but when it comes to making great cars, others seem better.

For a nation of car enthusiast it is a bit strange that the only supercar output ever was the Vector, but from what I've learned they went under, so I might be wrong here, but is there any counterweight to Murcielago, Enzo and similar stuff in the American automotive industry. I mean I've seen plenty of prototypes by many makers, the last one from Chrysler, but they never seem to go ahead with the production. If memory serves me, they said that Chrysler wanted to establish it's position as a maker of fine cars and that's why they will be going for this project.

Well, the name of the model is ME412 for those who care and it brags with a 6 liter engine (again!, no wonder there are wars to get additional oil) that can produce 850 bhp. Now, that's pretty impressive. I hope they go ahead with the production, it's one sexy little toy.

Those of you interested in the car can view more here (http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=7770&autoShowID=&vehicleTypeID=0)

Originally posted by airnine
Well I guess then that must be the reason why Peugeot has been the world rally champion for several years now, the reason being that they make cars that suck, come to that I think they have been pretty lousy when it comes to stuff like Paris-Dakar, too. Yeah, Peugeot really sucks. Only not!

We need WRC to come here! :)

Originally posted by airnine
Well, is there like an American powered F1 team? Nothing comes to my mind.

Yes...

Originally posted by airnine
True, there are some great American cars, but they only made 50 Tuckers. Viper? Tell me where's the fun in having an 8 liter engine that outputs less than 400 bhp. I think the first version had some 340 bhp. What a waste. Ever checked an F40, 3.6 liter engine 580 bhp, that's art. Tuning is an American sport, I'll give you that, but when it comes to making great cars, others seem better.


500BHP. And there's a little thing called torque. Viper has more torque down low than any European Exotic. Also has a broad power band. And remember, a Viper is only $80k here, so it's pretty cheap for what it is.

Originally posted by airnine
For a nation of car enthusiast it is a bit strange that the only supercar output ever was the Vector, but from what I've learned they went under, so I might be wrong here, but is there any counterweight to Murcielago, Enzo and similar stuff in the American automotive industry. I mean I've seen plenty of prototypes by many makers, the last one from Chrysler, but they never seem to go ahead with the production. If memory serves me, they said that Chrysler wanted to establish it's position as a maker of fine cars and that's why they will be going for this project.

http://www.saleen.com/auto/s7/s7.htm

http://www.moslerauto.com

Those are just a few more exotic names many may have not heard of.

:cool:

well if we want to talk hp and torque - my buddy has all of you whipped - he just won the national corevette super tuners challenge.

he has a 2003 corvette zo6 5.6 liter with a supercharger and he produces 950 hp at the flywheel and 850 at the wheels. he has 600 fp of torque.

now that is bad.

its his daily driver too and he only has 85K in it.

ummm that is as good a ratio as the f1 cars and they cant be daily driven and they are much more expensive.

Corvette only costs ~$45k and gets ~30mpg. :cool:

Yep....There's just a weeeeeeeeee bit of difference between F1 cars and cars built for street use. Peugeots, at least the ones that a few of my friends had over the years, just couldn't cut it on the street.

LOL Probably the biggest difference is the hair. Seriously, we europeans look like idiots with our hair compared to Americans :P

Well, is there like an American powered F1 team? Nothing comes to my mind.

How about the Ford Engine Jordan use, although it will be built in the UK... Thats the only one I can think off, everyone else has European or Japanese engines.

There is of course British American Racing (BAR), so America does have something on the F1 scene at least, though they do use a Honda engine...

Originally posted by Aros
LOL Probably the biggest difference is the hair. Seriously, we europeans look like idiots with our hair compared to Americans :P

:D Ha ha... have I missed something? What's wrong with our hair?

The main difference between the US and Europe is one of genetics, in fact a scientific study was done and it found that genetically Americans are more criminally prone than Europeans. This was published in the *lancet* after comprehensive international scientific studies were done, the largest of there type on the nature/nuture debate relating to antisocial behavior patterns and repeat criminal offending.

The study revealed that Americans had a natural tendancy towards criminal and delinquent behavior.

This was prooven in case studies involving genetic comparisons of identical subjects and the tests were conducted over a period of decades.

The results have been explained from a bio/sociological stand point going back to the days when our prisinors were sent to the US on ships, it was these slave prisinors that became the basic breeding stock for the US.

There exists further anacdotal evidence born out by the fact that the US has the highest prison to population ratio of the free world particularly high when compared to Europe.

These scientific studies and combined anacdotal research proove that in fact Americans are more criminally minded than the Europeans.

Perhaps this is why we don't have guns and the death penalty here in Europe.

Most of the Europeans have roots older than USA.

I think that can be explained by the fact that this country is only 228 years old.

Most of the Europeans are far better educated than the Americans

That's not entirely true. Some parts of the country have crap schools, and others have great educations. It depends where you are.

One reason diffrent is in America we keep electing the morons for officals =/.

Originally posted by Tanuk
The main difference between the US and Europe is one of genetics, in fact a scientific study was done and it found that genetically Americans are more criminally prone than Europeans. This was published in the *lancet* after comprehensive international scientific studies were done, the largest of there type on the nature/nuture debate relating to antisocial behavior patterns and repeat criminal offending.

The study revealed that Americans had a natural tendancy towards criminal and delinquent behavior.

This was prooven in case studies involving genetic comparisons of identical subjects and the tests were conducted over a period of decades.

The results have been explained from a bio/sociological stand point going back to the days when our prisinors were sent to the US on ships, it was these slave prisinors that became the basic breeding stock for the US.

There exists further anacdotal evidence born out by the fact that the US has the highest prison to population ratio of the free world particularly high when compared to Europe.

These scientific studies and combined anacdotal research proove that in fact Americans are more criminally minded than the Europeans.

Perhaps this is why we don't have guns and the death penalty here in Europe.

how does this correlate to austrailia another famous penal colony? if it matches the correlation - then I would say you have a pretty good conclusion from a double blind study.

I live in georgia - which was the main penal colony.

I guess Australians are just a bunch of rapists, murderers and thieves.....

No comparison, lifestyle in Europe is completely different. I remember when I went to Italy a few summers back it was like a complete change in the way you look at things. You can't imagine how different it is, where I was, it was vastly primitive but there's no stress, no worries and no headaches. It was amazing. You can't compare America to Europe. It's a whole different world.

Originally posted by sailor
how does this correlate to austrailia another famous penal colony? if it matches the correlation - then I would say you have a pretty good conclusion from a double blind study.
I live in georgia - which was the main penal colony.

Oooooh!! Hey I'm really sorry, I didn't mean anything personal, I know how you must feel because I know how it is in Georgea and those backward states.

I'm sorry please don't take it the wrong way, nothing personal it was just a scientific study that I had read once not long ago. Anyway, one day you probably are going to move away from Georgia. I have heard about Georgia before, so I know where your comming from. I heard that in some places in Georgia they don't have electricity, is that true?

Originally posted by skreid
I think that can be explained by the fact that this country is only 228 years old.



That's not entirely true. Some parts of the country have crap schools, and others have great educations. It depends where you are.

I disagree with you here, I did my high school in France and when
I started college I could have easily placed out over 30 credit hours (Calculus I thru Differential Equation, Eng. Physics I and II, Chemistry I and II, Organic I and II , Macroeconomic, Microeconomics, ...) - The reason I did not place out these materials is I was not aware of placement tests. I am in my senior year, and I can tell you that I do not recall struggeling in any course so far. (current GPA is 3.38, Texas A&M)

I was amazed that most of high schoolers when starting college, they take College Algebra, ... which I remember that I came across these materials in grade 7 - if not even before)

Originally posted by auctionSuite
I guess Australians are just a bunch of rapists, murderers and thieves.....

Australia is a kickass country to live in it's layed back and worry free for the most part,just visit us and see for yourself.Anyone that thinks what you just said is obviously doing some sort of drugs.

Only thing i dont like about australia is our ADSL prices :bawling:

Originally posted by airnine
USA is mostly California, there would be LA, NYC, Florida every once in a while with Miami, Atlanta is popping out, because of the CNN and there could be a Seattle some times, plus the Washington city as a capital and the state of Texas. Other places are simply unknown to the worldwide audience. Sorry, almost left out Hawaii. If you ask me why, I think the Americans put it that way. You either live on the east coast, west coast or you don't live at all. I have a couple of friends from the states who speak poorly of the folks not living on the coast, usually refer to them as weirdos. A kind of people that used to get to the Jerry Springer show. That's sick.


That is BS. NYC and California may be better known to other parts of the world than other parts of the US, but that doesn't mean the rest of us don't live in great places, we are weirdos, or are quality of life is lower. I wouldn't live in California or the Northeast. A lot of people in the US consider THOSE the weirdos. The reason the aforementioned places are more well known is because TV and movies are made in Hollywood(which is made in California) and more TV/movies are set in California than other places because of that reason, and in NYC because it's the biggest city in the country. Some outside the country know less for the same reason people know less about most regions of other large countries. How many people know much about most of Russia or China outside of Moscow, Beijing, Hong Kong and maybe a couple others? Just the way it is.



Most of the Europeans prefer talking to fighting.

Probably the same in the US.

Most of the Europeans have roots older than USA.

Yup, US is barely 200 years old. Although actually our roots are as old..Our roots are European.....African, Asian, etc. etc.

Most of the Europeans aren't racists.

Most Americans aren't racist. The country is probably as diverse as it gets also.

Most of the Europeans know far more about the States than the Americans know about Europe

Because so much American culture seeps out because it's obviously a large and influential country. Europe has a lot of small countries with a lot of differences and we are less exposed to it than Europe to America, so harder to have as much knowledge about it.

Originally posted by Tanuk
Oooooh!! Hey I'm really sorry, I didn't mean anything personal, I know how you must feel because I know how it is in Georgea and those backward states...I heard that in some places in Georgia they don't have electricity, is that true?

Oh and what are some of these other so-called 'backward' states? How is Georgia backwards? I have no idea if there are places there that don't have electricity, but I'm pretty sure there are places in every state/country in the world that don't have electricity. Georgia as a state I'm sure is modern. Heck they hosted a summer Olympics.

Originally posted by sailor
we have viper http://www.vipercarparts.com/
corvette http://www.automotive.com/chevrolet/11/corvette/

and my personal favorite
1967 eleanor mustang http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/dealerbig.cfm?Autos__ID=000556-200403-000002

My favorite car ever is the oh about 63-67 Corvette Stingray:

http://www.edge-inc.net/cars/index.cfm/page/one/id/54/cid/2.htm

Originally posted by APEXware
, but I'm pretty sure there are places in every state/country in the world that don't have electricity. Georgia as a state I'm sure is modern. Heck they hosted a summer Olympics.

Hi Ape, howz it going? Yah your right I think nowadays that Georgia and the other *nearby* states pretty much are trying to catch up.

More than 70% of houses are hooked up with electricity and running water, nowadays in the more advanced parts they have state programs to help generate the economic backwaters. Cotton growing is still a major industry now though but I think they're trying to encourage more modern indsutries.

I think people from those places sound kinda gr8 with that way of talking like on the *Gone with the Wind Films* :)

Cotton growing is backwards?? Uh, I know a lot of cotton farmers, my city is surrounded on 2 sides by cotton fields. I'm going to eat tomorrow for Mother's Day in an old cotton gin that has been transformed into a steakhouse(I hear it's a neat place). I bet that all sounds very backwards to you. I also think the sound of a southern accent sounds gr8, I prefer it to some other accents in other regions of the country.

Originally posted by Tanuk
Oooooh!! Hey I'm really sorry, I didn't mean anything personal, I know how you must feel because I know how it is in Georgea and those backward states.

I'm sorry please don't take it the wrong way, nothing personal it was just a scientific study that I had read once not long ago. Anyway, one day you probably are going to move away from Georgia. I have heard about Georgia before, so I know where your comming from. I heard that in some places in Georgia they don't have electricity, is that true?

I doubt that is true. its actually not backwards here any more than anywhere else. I might move - but it would only be to experience something else. I was born here - and I have lived in california as well. I have also traveled to europe in uk, belgium and france and will be going to spain this summer. I have been to mexico and most of the islands in the caribean.

I was poking fun at us being a former penal colony. do you like coca cola? thats from here. I can go on and on - but needless to say - you should come visit. its actually quite a nice lifestyle here.

where are you from btw? :)

Atlanta: Awesome place.

The only place i've been to, in the states, more times than Atlanta, is Boston.


Sorry, I just find the comment of;
"Georgea and those backward states" so wrong, in so many ways, that it's just plain hysterical.

Simon

Originally posted by Tanuk
Hi Ape, howz it going? Yah your right I think nowadays that Georgia and the other *nearby* states pretty much are trying to catch up.

More than 70% of houses are hooked up with electricity and running water, nowadays in the more advanced parts they have state programs to help generate the economic backwaters. Cotton growing is still a major industry now though but I think they're trying to encourage more modern indsutries.

I think people from those places sound kinda gr8 with that way of talking like on the *Gone with the Wind Films* :)

dont you like your cotton underwear? its got to come from somewhere..........

I dont want to catch up if it means living the big city life and all the problems that goes along with it. I would rather go visit the ny and la and sfo from time to time. I do love those cities - just would not want to live there.

not that they are bad - I just dont like the particular lifestyle.

one of the great things about all of us out there is hte diversity - what if we were all the same. food would get boring. architecture would get boring and certainly there would be no need to go far for vacation - it would all be the same old schmack everywhere you went.

thank goodness we are all different.- life is much more fun that way.

I agree. I love the area where I live in Texas. City of 90,000. Big enough to have most of the things a big city offers but small enough for a slower lifestyle. I live in a city, right off a freeway. South of my house there is a lake about a 7 minute drive away. North the 'country' with trees and hills is 15-20 minutes away..East 8 minutes away there are cotton fields..Then west right outside of town it's desert, cactus, and mesquite. Within an hour I've got desert, plains, mountains, forests, and the Hill Country.

Where I live is as diverse as it gets. You have your country bumpkin types living right by your more hip city slicker types. I love traveling to big cities such as Austin, San Antonio, and DFW several times a year but wouldn't want to live there. I'd go insane just from the traffic!

Are there any villages in US ?

Originally posted by RajanUrs
Are there any villages in US ?

To us, a village is grass huts. What you consider a village might be the same as what we call a town. I'm not sure what the population of a town has to be to be considered a city though..

Originally posted by RHShawn
Australia is a kickass country to live in it's layed back and worry free for the most part,just visit us and see for yourself.Anyone that thinks what you just said is obviously doing some sort of drugs.
I was being fascetious....Read through the posts just prior to that one.

Originally posted by auctionSuite
I was being fascetious....Read through the posts just prior to that one.

Yea i know,i was just using it as an example.

Some of you guys got me wrong. Personally I can give you all the fifty states from the top of my head with at least one city from each one of them. What I was saying is that the American mass media and the top heads gave almost no focus to vast parts of the US. Personally I think Montana, Oregon, Vermont and others are terrific places, but don't get any focus at all. That's bad. That sucks.

Why did I say Americans were racists? Think of any corporation in the US, I think none of them has a black CEO. What the hack, to better put it, most of them don't have a non white CEO. America is white and that's a crappy thing about it. Perhaps More did a good job convincing me into this, too.

Besides, my experience with the folks in the States and those Americans I met out of the States gave me a rather negative idea about how the white Americans viewed their country and the world. All pumped up. Horrible.

Some say that the US is a dream country, I'm not sure about that, cause from what I have learned, it's great if you have loads of money and if not, you are just busted. That sucks. Many Europeans perceive the North America to be a coin with two sides. On one side there are the States, another side has provinces and the people are more like Europeans, but the place is called Canada.

Originally posted by airnine
Why did I say Americans were racists? Think of any corporation in the US, I think none of them has a black CEO. What the hack, to better put it, most of them don't have a non white CEO. America is white and that's a crappy thing about it. Perhaps More did a good job convincing me into this, too.

How many corporations in Europe have Black, Asian or Indian CEOs?

Also in America, we are so devoted to being non-racist, and being "Politically" correct, we have the works of "Reverse-Racism" in effect.. How many ALL black channels do you have in europe? I can name a few here, BET (Black Entertainment) BSTZ (Black Starz) There are a few more as well that are "Black Only" channels.

There are also many Black only Magazines that circulate our country as well.. and for all of those I am willing to bet 100:1 that they all have black CEOs etc...

Originally posted by airnine
Think of any corporation in the US, I think none of them has a black CEO. What the hack, to better put it, most of them don't have a non white CEO.

None of them have black CEOs? How about the following to name a few who have had black executives...

John Thompson, CEO of Symnatec
Ken Chenault, CEO Amex
Pamela Thomas-Graham, CNBC
Richard Parsons, CEO AOL Timewarner
Stanley O'Neal, COO of Merrill Lynch

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/blackpower/0,15274,,00.html

[QUOTE]Originally posted by APEXware
[B]Cotton growing is backwards?? Uh, I know a lot of cotton farmers, my city is surrounded on 2 sides by cotton fields.[QUOTE][i]

HI Ape, oooh wow.. I lovee that kind of lifestyle, I have seen documentaries of that kind of way of life, where people are walking around in *osh kosh* overalls, and the people all have huge big extended families with guys with such fantastic names as *Delber* or *Elmur*, and everybody goes huntin at the weekend. I strongly believe that this kind of lifestyle is precious and the kind of ethics you country people have is just much more relaxed and laid back. I know many of the peoples still go and hunt and fish for their survival in that region.

Do you guys keep chickens and do you kill your own livestock for the village on feast days? I love that way of life personally and think that it really brings us down to nature, somethign that modern day life lacks!.

Thanks for sharing Ape:) Your way of life sounds brilliant.

lol- youa re too funny .

where are you from and where do you live now - I asked earlier - but here it goes again.

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Originally posted by APEXware
I agree. I love the area where I live East 8 minutes away there are cotton fields..Then west right outside of town it's desert, cactus, and mesquite. Within an hour I've got desert, plains, mountains, forests, and the Hill Country.

One of the biggest differences between the US and the UK is that the US has vast areas that are barely touched by modern life. Places like where you guys go around in horse drawn carriages like the amish, we don't have that kind of thing here. I love the idea of going back in time to an era of good old fashioned community life style. I have thoughts of *little house on the prairy*:) such happy thoughts.

In the end, the differences vary vastly between different areas of Europe.

Poland, Turkey etc... now those are places with nice cultures... (and women :D)

UK/Germany/France are pretty similar (in comparison with other places - they still have some big differences)

Comparing them to the USA is almost impossible because the US culture tends to revolve around the $$$, whereas euro culture doesn't to the same extent (although the UK is slowly moving that way)

Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Belguim... now those are nice places. Belgium is confusing though. Everywhere you go, signs are in 4-5 different languages - french, german, dutch, flemish, english =D So much more laid back than the UK and definitely more laid back than the USA.

Sorry Sailor, I didn't mean to not answer your question. I'm living in the UK:)

Originally posted by Tanuk
One of the biggest differences between the US and the UK is that the US has vast areas that are barely touched by modern life. Places like where you guys go around in horse drawn carriages like the amish, we don't have that kind of thing here. I love the idea of going back in time to an era of good old fashioned community life style. I have thoughts of *little house on the prairy*:) such happy thoughts.

dont take this personally - but you could not be farther from the truth - your view is a little distorted.



I dont know anyone running around in carriages and I dont know anyone thatt hunts because they have to. its for sport.

Originally posted by Tanuk
One of the biggest differences between the US and the UK is that the US has vast areas that are barely touched by modern life. Places like where you guys go around in horse drawn carriages like the amish, we don't have that kind of thing here. I love the idea of going back in time to an era of good old fashioned community life style. I have thoughts of *little house on the prairy*:) such happy thoughts.

Uh, what you are describing is not what I'm talking about. We don't have people anywhere in this state of Texas which is probably twice the size of the UK that ride around in carriages. Virtually everyone including kids just getting their drivers licenses have their own cars. You missed the point. I'm saying we have diversity. And farmers and ranchers aren't backwards, they don't all wear overalls and sit on the porch "whittlin" and the only places I've ever seen anyone with names like Elmer were on cartoons or on a glue bottle. If you are serious about any of this you are incredibly ignorant.

Texas for example might be the most diverse place in the world geographically and socially. Every type of person you could imagine..800 miles of beaches, hills, mountains, deserts, pine forests swamps and so on. And most consider it overall conservative, yet the Capital Austin is the most liberal city in the US, moreso than the San Fran area. I have met several folks from the UK who have visited or moved to Texas, and they love it here. Friendliest place in the world.

I was amazed that most of high schoolers when starting college, they take College Algebra, ... which I remember that I came across these materials in grade 7 - if not even before)

Like I said, some parts of the country have good education, others don't. In my town, a few of my friends, including myself, took algebra in 6th grade, whereas most people didn't start it until 8th or 9th grade. It depends on where you are.

Are there any villages in US ?

Like someone else said, it depends on how you define a village. There are downs with populations as low as 600 and up in the US.

I dont know anyone running around in carriages and I dont know anyone thatt hunts because they have to. its for sport.

Amish. There are pleanty of them in this country.

Originally posted by APEXware
You missed the point. I'm saying we have diversity. And farmers and ranchers aren't backwards, they all wear overalls and sit on the porch "whittlin" and the only places I've ever seen anyone with names like Elmer were on cartoons or on a glue bottle. .


Hiya, yeah I knowwww that you are diverse, but what I'm saying is that its lovely, I mean I have actually *been* to these places, and I've seen the miles and miles of unpaved roads, and places where you guys live in wooden huts with nothing but forests and lakes and stuff to survive on. Some of the places I've visited just you drive and you see guys sitting out on their porch, watching the world go round, its actually a *good thing*. I'm trying to say that it is a quality that I aspire to in life, I mean it is a perfect quality of life. The way of life in your region is like out of huclebury fin and tom sawyer. The best part for me is that kind of the bad side to the South has gone now, and just left the timeless high quality values of country life.

There is no more slavery or segragation now since the sixties, so its really a nice place. Although I did notice that in places like Virginia black folk don't go to white folks churches and stuff like that but its a throw back from the segregation days I think. I also know that uup in the mountains you guys still have illegal moonshine stills, I've even seen documentaries about it on TV. Yah and also the Kajuns, they have entire communities of you folk living out in the Lousiana jungles. They don't come out for months and months at a time, they go in with their fishing rods and guns and they trap and hunt all year then they come out to the fairs to trade with the city folk. Sometimes I would rather be doing that than living in a modern and developed country like the UK.

Originally posted by APEXware

I have met several folks from the UK who have visited or moved to Texas, and they love it here. Friendliest place in the world.

Ohh yeah thats another thing, people out in the states like Georgia, Kentucky they are all soooo freindly, just like your freinds said, thats one thing I also agree on 1000%, they welcome you into their families and village life and/or church community as well.

p.s. Thats the one thing I wish we had more of in the UK, the uk is not so freindly as the southern hospitality, UK people are very sincere and good but we are too much reserved sometimes. Thats one thing I really miss about Georgia and those kind of places.

You're hilarious..well, not really. I think it's funny though how all British folks are just like they are in National Lampoon's European Vacation. It's cool that when riding a bike and when you get hit by a car you don't get mad and stay cheerful. Such a friendly lot! Especially to all us Yanks. Very admirable. But it's messed up that your hotels are very cramped and only have 1 bathroom in the whole joint! Oh, and come on now, why do you let folks drive their cars right up to Stonehenge..it's amazing it doesn't get knocked over like dominos more often when we stupid Yanks run into them.

Originally posted by APEXware
You're hilarious..well, not really. I think it's funny though how all British folks are just like they are in National Lampoon's European Vacation.

Oh hey now, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, I think your mad at me. I know that you probably have got about ten guns in the back of your pickup truck and about fifteen moonshine swigging cousins and I don't wanna make you guys mad. :( Sorrry! I'm going to button my big mouth:(

There are indeed places in the U.S., even in Texas, where some still ride carriages. However, it is either by choice, or because that is their job. In Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and many other places, there are even such services where you can hitch the rides around town in a carriage. It's either lifestyle or visitor services.

And who needs moonshine when we have Everclear here :D

That's right Tanuk, you don't want to mess with inbred rednecks..

UK/Germany/France are pretty similar (in comparison with other places - they still have some big differences)

English football fans :D

The single biggest difference is just that we are better than all Europeans. They know it too, but just wont admit it. They will even come up with strange and weird proofs as to how it cant be true :D

See now, just watch and they will prove it for me :stickout:

The Biggest difference ive found is
Americans are
1) Always right, even when proved wrong
2) Big Headed
3) take all glory for everything.

americans are usually fatter lol

Actually one thing I do find interesting *being serious* for a change.

In the US their are three times more people claiming Irish decent than the population of Ireland.

The number of Poles living in Chicago is 3,000,000 the number of poles living in the capital of Poland *warsaw* is 1,000,000.

I don't know about UK/German, but I do know that the general white original population was from Europe that settled in America eg. the majority of the population is of European decent so in fact we are all *one big happy smiley happy family*

oh yeah - on cars - you europeans will probably like this one a little more. its pure american though ;)

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/home.asp?bhcp=1

While the Ford GT is a nice car, I would still much rather have something like an Aston Martin DB9. Just saying to someone "oh, I have a Ford" doesn't quite sound as good as "I have an Aston Martin" ;)

Just saying to someone "oh, I have a Ford" doesn't quite sound as good as "I have an Aston Martin"

LOL funny and true :P

Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
While the Ford GT is a nice car, I would still much rather have something like an Aston Martin DB9. Just saying to someone "oh, I have a Ford" doesn't quite sound as good as "I have an Aston Martin" ;)

it does if you are spanking the aston martin in your rearview mirror. lol

I rmember riding with my friend with the vette once in buckhead here (kind of the trendy uppity part of town) - he had this one guy in a 930 turbo come up and try to race him. he had the little cute driving gloves and sunglasses on - looked like he just stepped off the autobahn in germany - well - needless to say he got spanked bad.

The Aston Martin DB9 does 0-60 in 4.7s and has a top speed of 186MPH. It would be a close race ;)

come on 186, that would be nothing for my lil kawasaki :) Oh, we here in the US like winning a lot too, and are sore losers.

Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
The Aston Martin DB9 does 0-60 in 4.7s and has a top speed of 186MPH. It would be a close race ;)

my friends corvette is heavily modded - supercharged with nitrous - has 980 horsepower and does the quarter mile in 9.89 at 140 mph. I think 0-60 in like 3 seconds.

he would eat the aston martin for lunch.

europeans seem to be better educated, more open minded, more knowledgable in world events and just better mannered in general

That may be because they're surrounded by "world events"....In Europe you can practically throw a rock in any direction and hit a neighboring country. Over here in the good ol' You Ess of Ay we're kind of insulated from everyone except Canada and Mexico, and they're, for the most part, pretty quiet neighbors.

Originally posted by Bully
Yer, but its weird,i find alot of girls from canada very sexy too

canada BY FAR has the best looking men

Originally posted by auctionSuite
we're kind of insulated from everyone except .....Mexico, and they're, for the most part, pretty quiet neighbors.

apparently you havent lived in california

Originally posted by Gen-T
many of those baggy clothes and worn-out looking accessories are actually very expensive. This strange trend is to pay $150 for a shirt that looks like it cost $5. Amazingly, this is the sign of good taste to some groups of youngsters. It must drive their parents crazy.

] :)

its called being stupid and superficial

Yeah, I have. NorCal and SoCal.

And I get where you're going with that.

http://bart.gamingw.net/junk/awesome/euro_vs_america1.jpg

I hope this wasnt posted already

Originally posted by auctionSuite
Yeah, I have. NorCal and SoCal.

And I get where you're going with that.

someone had to go there with that ;)

How to tell a gentleman, from a teen-racer 'wannabe':

Gentleman: "I wish to purchase an Aston Martin"
Teen-racer wannabe: "My car's faster"

Everyone knows car quality isn't judged on speed ;)

Simon

Originally posted by IHSL

Everyone knows car quality isn't judged on speed ;)

Simon

what country are you from??

http://new.volvocars.com/r/us_index.asp

its MINE! all mine!!!!

Originally posted by Webdude
Well I dont know about you, but I like any woman that does regardless of nationaility :D oh what a charming person you are !

Unless you're 15 and can't help yourself

Originally posted by LaurenStephens
what country are you from??

http://new.volvocars.com/r/us_index.asp

its MINE! all mine!!!!
Ireland, and Canada too now, I guess :D

I prefer cars that will last, and keep value.

For instance, when I first moved to Canada, I bought a Jetta, for $13k and 1 year later, I sold it, for 12k. Now that's just great value :D

We now own a Subaru, and a vintage Camaro ('68)

Simon

Originally posted by IHSL
Ireland, and Canada too now, I guess :D

I prefer cars that will last, and keep value.

For instance, when I first moved to Canada, I bought a Jetta, for $13k and 1 year later, I sold it, for 12k. Now that's just great value :D

We now own a Subaru, and a vintage Camaro ('68)

Simon

ive owned many a camaro.

my first car was a 76 camaro lt, followed by a 73, then a 69, then a bad *** 79 z-28, 5.7 litre v/8 w/ t-tops.... ohhhh, well, you know what i mean.... gotta love those f-body cars!

First car was a '68 RS SS Camaro, silver on black....I kick myself every time I think about having sold it.

Originally posted by auctionSuite
I kick myself every time I think about having sold it.
Rightfully.

That is just simply 'classic'.

Give yourself another kick, from me :)

Simon

Aussie Bob...I'm with you man. Hairy armpits? Gross! Da-ooood!

I only tolerate that on surfer chicks and only if they will tolerate a little razor action, even if you have to buy em sexwax for their schtick.

I think the main difference between Europe, Oz and the States is that Oz and the U.S. are 'advanced' cultures; barely born in the last millenium, our people are forward thinkers, doers, willing to die to prove a point (uh, passionate), and I'd even throw the Canadians in there too although knowing a few, they are a bit Brit (save the wonderfully sexy girls (with no body hair), from Quebec).

At any rate, Europe is 'old hat'. True; a gazillion new inventions come from there; the best bio-diesel formula comes from the Czech Republic), but...

Oz and the States have fewer rules of engagement, of invention, of trying new things, anything to get the job done. We aren't hindered by as much 'tradition'.

Now before you bash me for that, if you want to see the next forward thinker, think of China. If they ever break free of their triple millenium dogma, that place could explode and the impact would change the way our global society operates for centuries.

Originally posted by sailor
my friends corvette is heavily modded - supercharged with nitrous - has 980 horsepower and does the quarter mile in 9.89 at 140 mph. I think 0-60 in like 3 seconds.

he would eat the aston martin for lunch.

You can't compare a Road Model car with a "heavily modded super charged with NOS". I'm sure you could stick loads of things in the DB9 as well to give it a bit of a boost, but thats not the point. Just the overall factor of owning an Aston Martin beats most cars hands down.

A Bond in an Aston Martin is worth two Bush in the Whitehouse :D

Originally posted by LaurenStephens
canada BY FAR has the best looking men

hey - I think georgia does - hehehe


also - on the aston martin vs corvette - yes the aston martin would do well against it - however it would still get beat. but I only pay 55K for a Z06 vette - isnt a aston martin like 250K or something?

so in response to the comment on mods- yeah - I would rather get a vette - drop 30 kin mods in it and eat everyone alive.

for 30,000 on an aston martin - what can you get? - like an oil change and tire rotation? ahahhahaha

Originally posted by IHSL
How to tell a gentleman, from a teen-racer 'wannabe':

Gentleman: "I wish to purchase an Aston Martin"
Teen-racer wannabe: "My car's faster"

Everyone knows car quality isn't judged on speed ;)

Simon


lol - I can tell you the difference between gentlemen that are buying the aston martin- they are usually older and their girl that is with them cant take their eyes off the the other guy that is in the other car.

you know what I mean.............money only gets you so far.

Originally posted by sailor
lol - I can tell you the difference between gentlemen that are buying the aston martin- they are usually older and their girl that is with them cant take their eyes off the the other guy that is in the other car.

you know what I mean.............money only gets you so far.

Yeah, but that woman wont take the chance of losing her lifestyle and fat purse over a guy who puts every dime he's got left after bills into his car. 5 minutes after seeing him, she's already forgot him..

Originally posted by Webdude
Yeah, but that woman wont take the chance of losing her lifestyle and fat purse over a guy who puts every dime he's got left after bills into his car. 5 minutes after seeing him, she's already forgot him..

lol - you are pretty uneducated on this. you must never have been married before.

these days - they get half so if the settlement is big enough - they will simply cheat until they are caught and hope hubby forgives them - if they dont they get kicked out to pursue whatever they want and they tak a huge purse with them.

rather unfair - but that is the state of things. women now cheat virtually as much as men. seems they have almost caught up to us in all areas. in fact more women graduate from college now in the us than men.
so dont believe money buys you marital security.

Originally posted by sailor
hey - I think georgia does - hehehe


also - on the aston martin vs corvette - yes the aston martin would do well against it - however it would still get beat. but I only pay 55K for a Z06 vette - isnt a aston martin like 250K or something?

so in response to the comment on mods- yeah - I would rather get a vette - drop 30 kin mods in it and eat everyone alive.

for 30,000 on an aston martin - what can you get? - like an oil change and tire rotation? ahahhahaha

Not sure if you are understanding what I'm saying about the Aston Martin. You don't buy an Aston Martin to go racing in it, you buy and Aston Martin because it's an Aston Martin!

Yes they are expensive cars (£100k for DB9, £160k for Vanquish), but they are amazing cars at the same time. A modded corvette is nothing special, but a Vanquish or DB9 is. ;)

Originally posted by sailor
lol - you are pretty uneducated on this. you must never have been married before.

these days - they get half so if the settlement is big enough - they will simply cheat until they are caught and hope hubby forgives them - if they dont they get kicked out to pursue whatever they want and they tak a huge purse with them.

rather unfair - but that is the state of things. women now cheat virtually as much as men. seems they have almost caught up to us in all areas. in fact more women graduate from college now in the us than men.
so dont believe money buys you marital security.

And you are forgetting one word, prenumptual (spelling?). If I was a rich old gentleman with young sexies always interested in me, I would be smart enough to know why.

When I decide I liked one enough, I would get on my knees and say "Will you marry me?"
She says "Yes YES!"
I pull out a prenump agreement, and say "Good, please sign here" :D

Refusal to sign would of course mean the end of the relationship (and fat purse) for her....there are plenty of other young sexy fish in the sea :stickout:

Steve, going to chime in and agree with you here. I watched the start to the new series of Top Gear on BBC1 last night, the Aston Martin DB9, simply a stunning car, and having seen the Corvette I just don't see how the two can compare? This shouldn't be taken as a dig at the Corvette, its a good car, but it's just not an Aston Martin. Astons just have something magical about them that is almost impossible to put into words unless you've seen one.

And one day... I hope to have one parked in my driveway :)

And for those who who don't know what the DB9 looks like...

http://www.ananova.com/images/web/68140.jpg
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/amdb904_01.jpg

Unfortunately the pictures just don't do the car enough justice...

vortex - steve - I do understand what you are saying - I am just having a little fun with you.

I personally would prefer something more special than either of them though - that catches the eye even more.

webdude - prenuptuals are not enforceable in court in most jurisdictions- it is up to the judge to decide if they want to consider it. so I would not hang my hat on that. there are laws that that will take precedence over it. I have gone through a divorce and been through extensive education on the matter so I am speaking from experience.

they will get big money if it is in your name and it has been created since the marriage. if you have kids with them - they will get a payment also - unless you get the kids or half of the kids.

in fact - these days - when I say they - I am really referring to either paryt - male or female - the courts are becoming more fair in these matters.

I hear the old saying - the young hot girl that married for money is the trophy wife of the old rich guy.......she is in his bed ****at sleep each night***** she in the arms of some younger chiseled guy *****not asleep ;) *****during the day.

Ok,
Some of the comments made here are just plain weird.

I love the stereotype of "if you're rich, you have a trophy wife".

Some people happen to have wives that helped them every step of the way to being successful.

Simon

What's wrong with having a trophy wife? I'd like to have a few :D

The safest bet however, is dont get married.... just remember the 4 F's.

Find them
Feed them
Fcuk them
Forget them

The you really dont have to worry about anything provided you had safe sex :stickout:

Originally posted by IHSL
Ok,
Some of the comments made here are just plain weird.

I love the stereotype of "if you're rich, you have a trophy wife".

Some people happen to have wives that helped them every step of the way to being successful.

Simon

no - we are not saying if you are rich you do. we are saying for those that do.

many people have great supportive spouses. thats how it should be - stying loyal to each other. :)

Originally posted by LaurenStephens
canada BY FAR has the best looking men

Lauren, you may think that, probably becuase you are in America only, and compared to American men perhaps you think Canadian men are all quite handsome.

However, it has been statistically prooved that British men are consider more handsome and many times more romantic than their equivalent North American counterparts.

There was a scientific survey carried out by the Department of Sociopsychology at UCLA in 2002 which discovered than their was a ratio of 2:1 of American women marrying Englishmen compared to English women marrying American men.

This data was backed up by surveys and by photpsychometric tests were the indvidual testers were shown pictures and asked to pick out the most handsome and statistically British men came out on top when compared to Canadian and American.

Obviously you've not been to the UK:)

Heh, notice there was no Irishmen in that test?

There's a reason.. we wouldn't want to embarass the super-powers or anything :D

Seriously though, (cosmetic) beauty, or even lack of it, has nothing to do with your nationality.

Simon

On the east coast of the US You tip everybody for everything... what on earth is that all about? Why not just up the wages?

In my (albeit limited) experience Americans are much louder than your average Belgian for example.

The US has a national league that they call the World Series ?!? Only in America huh!

Originally posted by markcastle
On the east coast of the US You tip everybody for everything... what on earth is that all about? Why not just up the wages?

In my (albeit limited) experience Americans are much louder than your average Belgian for example.

The US has a national league that they call the World Series ?!? Only in America huh!

because that would cost my business ( if i owned a resurant more money) and did I not say i was running a business? ;) why spend more than one has to?

And I'm not forced to tip.

Originally posted by benoitb
And I'm not forced to tip.

You tell that to your average waiter who relies on tips to make ends meet. Personally i prefer to pay well when i get good service not pay to ensure good service.

Originally posted by markcastle

The US has a national league that they call the World Series ?!? Only in America huh!

I think you're talking about Major League Baseball which consists of the American League and National League. It consists of more than just American teams and consists of players from many countries. When a league is the best in the world in it's sport and would beat a team from anywhere else I think it's Ok to call it that. Also when a pro football or basketball team wins the championship in the top North American leagues they are called World Champions..but who is going to argue that anyone else could be better?

It's hard to compare the US to Europe because of the huge differences found throughout Europe. Western European countries such as the UK, Ireland, Germany and to some extent France will be pretty similar to the US. The UK is extraordinarily similar because of the close relations and the fact the same language is spoken. Britain is more right wing than France and Germany, but not as much as the US is.

The UK is very different to eastern European countries and ex Sovietblock countries just as the US would be.

... And for the record, I'd have an Aston Martin over any Ford. I'm a huge Aston fan, and the only cars I'd really consider in it's place would be the Mclaren F1 or Ferrari Enzo... maybe the Mclaren Mercedes when it's released.

Originally posted by Webdude
What's wrong with having a trophy wife? I'd like to have a few :D

The safest bet however, is dont get married.... just remember the 4 F's.

Find them
Feed them
Fcuk them
Forget them

The you really dont have to worry about anything provided you had safe sex :stickout:

...I can make something out of your statement, but I just can't understand why you would want to feed them....

here's the real difference h**p://kinkybullet.net/difference1.jpg

It's hard to compare the US to Europe because of the huge differences found throughout Europe. Western European countries such as the UK, Ireland, Germany and to some extent France will be pretty similar to the US. The UK is extraordinarily similar because of the close relations and the fact the same language is spoken. Britain is more right wing than France and Germany, but not as much as the US is.


The US is far from right wing, unless you are just talking about the current presidential administration(and I wouldn't even call that quite right wing, as the right wingers don't consider Bush 'conservative' enough). As a people I'd say we are very moderate/centrist if you averaged it out. There are some on both extremes right and left and those are the ones who get the most attention because they make the most noise but I bet a huge majority is middle of the road.

Originally posted by kinkybullet
here's the real difference h**p://kinkybullet.net/difference1.jpg

Gee, that's like the 5th time in this thread. Anyone wanna see if you can break the record and post that pic again?? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by phision.com
hmm, interesting: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2174rank.html

the USA uses around 4x the oil of the UK per person

Where do you see that on the site?

Edit: Been reading almost all pages of this thread and I can only say that this thread would be much better if people would only post if they have been in the states and in europe (not things they "heard") and stop posting about sex related topics.

HL

Well, the reason why we use 4x more the oil than the UK is because our country is significantly larger and multiply 50 sepearate economies into one, that's not surprising we use the most oil.

Regards,
Waylon

Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
Not sure if you are understanding what I'm saying about the Aston Martin. You don't buy an Aston Martin to go racing in it, you buy and Aston Martin because it's an Aston Martin!

Yes they are expensive cars (£100k for DB9, £160k for Vanquish), but they are amazing cars at the same time. A modded corvette is nothing special, but a Vanquish or DB9 is. ;)

almost forgot - you know the aston martin is a ford dont you?

;)

www.ford.com you will see it there.

Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
Not sure if you are understanding what I'm saying about the Aston Martin. You don't buy an Aston Martin to go racing in it, you buy and Aston Martin because it's an Aston Martin!

Yes they are expensive cars (£100k for DB9, £160k for Vanquish), but they are amazing cars at the same time. A modded corvette is nothing special, but a Vanquish or DB9 is. ;)

The funny thing is an LS1 in a Corvette or anything not-overly-heavy car would smoke a Aston Martin....

Originally posted by Tanuk
[QUOTE]Originally posted by APEXware
[B]Cotton growing is backwards?? Uh, I know a lot of cotton farmers, my city is surrounded on 2 sides by cotton fields.[QUOTE][i]

HI Ape, oooh wow.. I lovee that kind of lifestyle, I have seen documentaries of that kind of way of life, where people are walking around in *osh kosh* overalls, and the people all have huge big extended families with guys with such fantastic names as *Delber* or *Elmur*, and everybody goes huntin at the weekend. I strongly believe that this kind of lifestyle is precious and the kind of ethics you country people have is just much more relaxed and laid back. I know many of the peoples still go and hunt and fish for their survival in that region.

Do you guys keep chickens and do you kill your own livestock for the village on feast days? I love that way of life personally and think that it really brings us down to nature, somethign that modern day life lacks!.

Thanks for sharing Ape:) Your way of life sounds brilliant.


Uhh, you evidently have no clue what the hell you're talking about..

We always here this diversity BS from you guys, yet you don't like our "diversity"

So what's it feel like to be a city born hypocrit?

Originally posted by sailor
almost forgot - you know the aston martin is a ford dont you?

;)

www.ford.com you will see it there.

wait wait ... Ford only has "shares" in AstonMartin, it still is hand-built in the UK and still has the awesome british heritage behind it ...

AstonMartin over Ford anyday...

Unmodified, the Aston wins over the quarter mile.

http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/rivals.htm

that is a few years old regular corvette - the z06 official time is 4.2 zero to 60 - I have not found the qaurter mile results for it.

it is faster - stickers for 56000

I'd pit an Aston Martin DB7 GT against it - http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=113&i=7222 :D

Originally posted by s.h.a.zz.y
wait wait ... Ford only has "shares" in AstonMartin, it still is hand-built in the UK and still has the awesome british heritage behind it ...

AstonMartin over Ford anyday...

Actually, according to the article Matt posted:

As every petrolhead also knows, Aston Martin is now owned by Ford, so the simple solution was to do what Ford generally did with its souped-up models back in the 1960s and call it the GT.



http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=113&i=7222

Originally posted by interactive
Actually, according to the article Matt posted:



http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=113&i=7222

According to the timeline, ford bought shares in 1987 if these have recently increased or Ford actually bought Aston Martin I was unaware of... I cannot find any article on the net indicating Ford buying Aston Martin.

Beside the point, name one other car which can compete with Aston Martin hand-made to the exact colour, leather etc you want?

Aston Martins are in there own league along with the Bentleys of the world ;)

Try telling someone you have a Ford in the UK and seriously you will be laughted upon (no offence to those that have fords) .. It is classed at the low end over here - It is perfectly fine for a family car but nothing other than that.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
I'd pit an Aston Martin DB7 GT against it - http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=113&i=7222 :D

why? because it is slower, doesnt handle as well and costs 4 times as much and doesnt get the gas mileage the vette gets?

that sounds good to me.......

ok - guys I seem to have struck a nerve - let me first say - the aston martins are extremely nice and awesomely performing cars. if moeny were no object I would love to have one. there is nothing wrong with them and yes they ar a bit more refined than a vette.

a vette was made for racing - so I dont think it fair to compare the two - the vette will out perform it - of course the am will "out classe" the vette in sex appeal and prestige.

two different cars and 2 different categories.

Originally posted by sailor


ok - guys I seem to have struck a nerve - let me first say - the aston martins are extremely nice and awesomely performing cars. if moeny were no object I would love to have one. there is nothing wrong with them and yes they ar a bit more refined than a vette.

a vette was made for racing - so I dont think it fair to compare the two - the vette will out perform it - of course the am will "out classe" the vette in sex appeal and prestige.

two different cars and 2 different categories.

you are DA man! :beer:

However, the GT version of the Aston Martin AVM8 (2005) has 550bhp stock from reports ...
... add mods and you have a car born to race to :D