Rightnow im using dreamhost and their crazydomain plan. its 120.00 a year.

I have no need for cgi, Mysql and all that jazz.

All I need and desire is to be able to have email@mydomain.com
50mgs of space 5+gigs of bandwidth (I currently use 3 but my curent plan only allows 2 @15.00 for every Gig over) and 24hour FTP. and a statistics page. (To get more bandwidth from dreamhost ill have to bump up to the 19.99 a month/240.00 a year plan)

Thats all i need and want. Im not a webdesigner, im a photographer. I dont do to much special stuff. I do sell on ebay alot but other than that I dont think im askin for much do yall?

I get about 2500 hits a month or so and thats about it.


Any suggestions?

after looking at some plans (for you people who do host or work for hosts) if i dont need all the other stuff, can i get some extra of something else? :D Im serious.

site in question

www.graphicdzine.com


Thanks in advance

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Your site would be considered an adult site though. This may pose price problem with some hosts.

thanks for those who hve emailed me links. The problem is, the plan offers 10 times as much disk space as I need and not enough BW. lets say plan offers 500mgs of space with 5gigs of BW, howbout, 50mgs of space with 7gigs?

:D

a little compromise here is all i want. lol

as for my site being "adult" well tahts debatable.


thanks

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Well Dzine,

Sounds like you just need the basic stuff. You might want to post this in the "Web Hosting Requests" section, or maybe a mod. could move it over?

That way web hosts could PM you and make an offer.

Your site would be considered an adult site though.

I think this site should be fine with most hosts. Why? Because it is not "pornographic"; just art. And boy, is that statement going to get a lot of responses. :stickout

Originally posted by Sesran
Your site would be considered an adult site though. This may pose price problem with some hosts.

Hi,
The "adult" nature of the site is highly debatable. I took a look at the content and think it is of an artistic nature and tastefully done. Pictures of the human body cannot be classified as "porn" simply because they are without clothes.
I think this topic would be a great one to explore and welcome all opinions on the subject.

Originally posted by Sesran
Your site would be considered an adult site though. This may pose price problem with some hosts.

I personally think 'adult' is a good word for it. While I teach art in my 3rd grade class, I think it would be inappropriate to bring in live nude models and have the children draw these subjects, as well as, view nude themed art pieces. 'Art' is a pretty vague term, but I think most people would agree that there is some 'art' that is simply not suitable for younger audiences. Note, I say most people as there are those whom I'm sure would not agree with this statement, and that participate in the nudist life style, see nothing wrong with nudity at any age, etc., etc.

It comes down to individual people (and hosts) determining if they consider the site to be 'adult' or not, this is opinion, not fact. When a host says they prohibit 'adult' sites, what they are telling you is that they will not hosts sites that they deem to be adult in nature. There is no such thing as an 'adult' site, per se.

One of the more complicated and difficult things I have to teach 3rd graders is the difference between fact and opinion. Fact would be that it contains nudity (something a host can decide if they will or will not host, this is black and white).

(Edit: Darn typos!)

try http://www.phpwebhosting.com/

contact them first with your information and let them review your site.


they are however very open to the artistic community, in regards to their hosting. and their price is great. they're very easy to work with in terms of needing more storage space and/or bandwidth.

and you'd be suprised at the amount of people who have used dreamhost and have moved to phpweb.

Originally posted by Chicken


I personally think 'adult' is a good word for it. While I teach art in my 3rd grade class, I think it would be inappropriate to bring in live nude models and have the children draw these subjects, as well as, view nude themed art pieces.


Alas..it is a fine line, sometimes, between 'art' and 'porn'. I agree that this site would not be appropriate for younger viewers and therein lies the rub........what is the definitive line you cross when moving to 'adult' content.

The problem is that there is no definitive line. "Adult' and 'pornographic' are subjective terms, you can have an opinion about it, even share a popular opinion, but that doesn't mean it is a fact.

Saying you prohibit any and all forms of nudity in your TOS would clearly define whether you will host this type of site or not. Otherwise, you should ask your host if the TOS merely states that they prohibit 'adult' or 'pornographic' sites whether they will host you.

Hosts on the forum may want to take a look at their TOS to see if they can clarify this, as I've seen it many times. Not that they have to, just that prohibiting 'adult' or 'pornographic' sites is completely ambiguous. Something to think about whilst you wait in line at your local shopping mall anywhooo.

Originally posted by Dzine
thanks for those who hve emailed me links. The problem is, the plan offers 10 times as much disk space as I need and not enough BW. lets say plan offers 500mgs of space with 5gigs of BW, howbout, 50mgs of space with 7gigs?

:D

a little compromise here is all i want. lol

as for my site being "adult" well tahts debatable.


thanks

D

Disk space doesn't *really* cost a host anything to provide to you - it's the bandwidth that we have to pay for. We sell hosting "packages" - but its really just the bandwidth and tech support that we actually consider in the price. Everything else is a minimal expense to us (and most hosting companies).

--Tina

Thanks for clearing that up, I always wondered why it was like that.

Yes there is a line between porn and art or adult and non adult.
Question is, would you take a school feild trip to a museum and show the kids the "Birth of Venus" or the Statue of David? Then what is the difference?

Thats where I dont understand people's hangups with nudity. There is so much excepted and non excepted forms.

An example would be something ive noticed here recently.

Maxim magazine has to put the black bar over the nipples of a womans breast if it shows in a photograph, but Cosmo, or Pop photo, or American Photo can show straight out nudity with no censorship at all.

"Its all about the context" some say, well no, if you have a nude woman in one mag just standing there who has to be censored no matter the mag, then the other mag should censor the same.

I see this as well on E a lot. If it is a woman on the beach doing a photoshoot and it happens to be topless, they mosaic the top of her body so no detail can be seen, however if its a fashion show and the model walks down with nothing on but some slacks and a very VERY transparant shirt, its ok?

anyway this is a good disgussion, and I always read the TOS on a host and email them my site to see if its cool or not.

Thanks for all the feedback.


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I think this thing that nudity will somehow affect children is just stupid.
I can understand how an adult can be affected (especially one without sex for a while), but how would lets say a 5 year old be affected if he/she see a nude body???

What should be restricted for children are some violent movies, WWF, and some stupid cartoons that do affect them, and not nudity ...

The main problem hosts have with adult sites is they get more visitors, and the content of their site is usually bigger. Those two things tend to make the users use all of their bandwidth. The advantage of having a non-adult hosting account is hosts don't expect their users to use all their bandwidth, and they oversell the bandwidth. So if you are one of the normal sites that actually uses all of your bandwidth, then you get a really good deal. Check with a few regular hosts and have them decide whether they consider it adult or not. If you have to go to an adult host, you are probably looking to pay around $18-$21/month for 7GB bandwidth.

Originally posted by Chicken
The problem is that there is no definitive line.Sure there is: "art" is in black and white, and "porn" is in full color.

Meanwhile, back on topic...

Originally posed by Dzine
thanks for those who hve emailed me links. The problem is, the plan offers 10 times as much disk space as I need and not enough BW. lets say plan offers 500mgs of space with 5gigs of BW, howbout, 50mgs of space with 7gigs?Dzine, it sounds like you're looking for something customized--I don't get the impression you're going to be happy with an off-the-shelf hosting plan. Some good bets to get what you want are to either post your requirements in the advertising section here, or go to one of the web hosting directories that lets you e-mail hosts with requests.

Originally posted by Intelligent Hosting
Sure there is: "art" is in black and white, and "porn" is in full color.
I didn't see a smiley (:D) but I'll assume you were joking. You were joking right?

Yeah I remember seeing Miss America in one of the nudy books back in the early 80's. They were black and white too. That was some pretty good art :D

The legal definition of Art -vs- Adult is construed by if they are involved in some sexual activity or touching themselves in a sexual way. Posing however, is legally considered art.

As for violent movies, etc. I let my kids see them all. My kids are well behaved, as claimed by other parents. They do excellent in school. They are not violent, least not anymore than kids usually are from one sibling to another. I use a hard paddle on their butts when they get a little too out of hand....and I am strict, but nice also. They dare not touch my guns. I blew a rabbit in half right in front of them, and they immediatly understood. Thing is, my kids wont hit 18 and be shocked at the real world like so many others, they will be ready for it. Unlike so many parents...I dont protect my kids from the real world, I prepare them for it..that's how it is "supposed" to work, that's what a parent is for.

Now everyone go out and take a rabbit and blow it in half in front of your kids like the good parents you should be. I suggest using little Suzie's pet rabbit, for the full effect.

:uzi: rabbit :smash:

j/k ya WD :D

Well, I felt it was better than them messing with a gun behind my back and learning in a bad way. I wanted them to have a full understanding that bullets on tv and bullets in real life are totally different.

I admit though, I may have gone a bit overboard.. I was showing my 4 year old the news of 911 and explaining this is what bad people do....and you know what he tells me? "That's not real, it's on TV" :eek:

Time to review my teaching skills I guess...

I dont protect my kids from the real world, I prepare them for it..that's how it is "supposed" to work, that's what a parent is for.

I think the real world includes sex also ... right? Why is it ok to "prepare" them for the real word with violent movies and you don't show them some porn also?

The difference is that kids will grow up to like sex as an instict no matter what they see. But the violent movies will teach them to act in a violent way thinking that this is how it should be in the real world.